GOG style offline installer, but on Steam

[MeditatingHamster]

Took me a while to migrate over to steam, always loved having my physical copies, but it never sat quite right never having those physical copies.

Not sure why Steam can't allow devs to opt in, or give an option for a GOG style offline installer for certain games and a sort filter option to find games that offer such an option.

Single player and Multiplayer that offers LAN play would be perfect for this. Hell, I'd be willing to pay a bit more for a game that offered this.

Anyone any thoughts as to why Steam haven't tried going down this road?

[Crazy Tiger]

Origineel geplaatst door eram:

go check out how gog actually manages its offline installers for games they care about, they made it so bad people dont want to use it. you wouldnt be asking for it if you used it once.

That's one way to try and get people to use Galaxy, I suppose.

[SLAYER187]

GOG is best for preserving older games and i like that they do that.

[WolfEisberg]

Origineel geplaatst door Brian9824:

Secondly it basically makes piracy rampant for any games.

That's false. For games that release to Steam and GOG at the same time, it is the Steam version that goes up on the pirate sites, GOG version may or may not go up a lot later, and it is the Steam version that gets downloaded by a massively ton more if the GOG version even goes up. CD Projekt talked about his with Witcher 2/3, where they stated that it was the Steam version that went up on the pirates sites and got massively downloaded.

[WolfEisberg]

Origineel geplaatst door eram:

the offline installer for some games on gog are not manageable.

ever seen the offline installer for cyberpunk on gog? i have it. its like 100 rar files and you have to download them all separately.

yeah, clearly this isn't true at all unless you can actually prove it.

GOG separates the install files in 4GB chunks, so they can fit on DVDs. Cyberpunk is not over 400GB game. Also, GOG doesn't use RAR files, the install files are ".bin" and ".exe"

I don't have cyberpunk, but I do have Witcher 3 complete edition, its not that much smaller than Cyberpunk, and its separated into 22 files.

If you go with the webpage to download the files, then you do have to download them one at a time, if you use GOG galaxy, then you can download all of them with a single push of a button.

here is a screenshot of proof, showing that the install files are ".bin", that there are 22 files, and that there is a single button push method to download them all if you use GOG Galaxy.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3345390976

No way that GOG would have decided to use RAR files for Cyberpunk and make them significantly smaller files to hit 100 files.

My bet is you looked at someone's pirated version which is a repack of the Steam version of the game, and they packed all the files for the pirated version in the RAR format, and that made you think it was the GOG version.

[eram]

Origineel geplaatst door WolfEisberg:

Origineel geplaatst door eram:

the offline installer for some games on gog are not manageable.

ever seen the offline installer for cyberpunk on gog? i have it. its like 100 rar files and you have to download them all separately.

yeah, clearly this isn't true at all unless you can actually prove it.

GOG separates the install files in 4GB chunks, so they can fit on DVDs. Cyberpunk is not over 400GB game. Also, GOG doesn't use RAR files, the install files are ".bin" and ".exe"

I don't have cyberpunk, but I do have Witcher 3 complete edition, its not that much smaller than Cyberpunk, and its separated into 22 files.

If you go with the webpage to download the files, then you do have to download them one at a time, if you use GOG galaxy, then you can download all of them with a single push of a button.

here is a screenshot of proof, showing that the install files are ".bin", that there are 22 files, and that there is a single button push method to download them all if you use GOG Galaxy.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3345390976

No way that GOG would have decided to use RAR files for Cyberpunk and make them significantly smaller files to hit 100 files.

My bet is you looked at someone's pirated version which is a repack of the Steam version of the game, and they packed all the files for the pirated version in the RAR format, and that made you think it was the GOG version.

yes of course i can prove it

check out this nonsense
https://imgur.com/a/rjWJ9MB

i didnt know the exact number how many..

22 is too many

28 is too many

i own all my games, i dont have time to play 800 of them why would i go pirate them or even look at that?

[Brian9824]

Origineel geplaatst door WolfEisberg:

Origineel geplaatst door Brian9824:

Secondly it basically makes piracy rampant for any games.

That's false. For games that release to Steam and GOG at the same time, it is the Steam version that goes up on the pirate sites, GOG version may or may not go up a lot later, and it is the Steam version that gets downloaded by a massively ton more if the GOG version even goes up. CD Projekt talked about his with Witcher 2/3, where they stated that it was the Steam version that went up on the pirates sites and got massively downloaded.

Developers disagree with you, you should try listening to other developers and not CD Projekt which is the most biased source you could find.

There is a reason why Bethesda for instance only releases their games YEARS later on GoG, why Capcom won't release their current games, etc. They all know that it makes it easy to pirate and hence why they will release older games tha barely sell on GoG, but any new game won't be released.

[WolfEisberg]

Origineel geplaatst door eram:

Origineel geplaatst door WolfEisberg:

yeah, clearly this isn't true at all unless you can actually prove it.

GOG separates the install files in 4GB chunks, so they can fit on DVDs. Cyberpunk is not over 400GB game. Also, GOG doesn't use RAR files, the install files are ".bin" and ".exe"

I don't have cyberpunk, but I do have Witcher 3 complete edition, its not that much smaller than Cyberpunk, and its separated into 22 files.

If you go with the webpage to download the files, then you do have to download them one at a time, if you use GOG galaxy, then you can download all of them with a single push of a button.

here is a screenshot of proof, showing that the install files are ".bin", that there are 22 files, and that there is a single button push method to download them all if you use GOG Galaxy.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3345390976

No way that GOG would have decided to use RAR files for Cyberpunk and make them significantly smaller files to hit 100 files.

My bet is you looked at someone's pirated version which is a repack of the Steam version of the game, and they packed all the files for the pirated version in the RAR format, and that made you think it was the GOG version.

yes of course i can prove it

check out this nonsense
https://imgur.com/a/rjWJ9MB

i didnt know the exact number how many..

26 is too many

28 is too many

Since when is 28 = 100?

and none of those are going to be rar files, its going to be .bin files.

Thank you for proving that you didn't tell the truth in your comment.

[eram]

Origineel geplaatst door WolfEisberg:

Origineel geplaatst door eram:

yes of course i can prove it

check out this nonsense
https://imgur.com/a/rjWJ9MB

i didnt know the exact number how many..

26 is too many

28 is too many

Since when is 28 = 100?

and none of those are going to be rar files, its going to be .bin files.

Thank you for proving that you didn't tell the truth in your comment.

doesnt matter what you think
28 may as well be 100 and thats my personal installer image not a pirate or some nonsense thanks.

[WolfEisberg]

Origineel geplaatst door Brian9824:

Origineel geplaatst door WolfEisberg:

That's false. For games that release to Steam and GOG at the same time, it is the Steam version that goes up on the pirate sites, GOG version may or may not go up a lot later, and it is the Steam version that gets downloaded by a massively ton more if the GOG version even goes up. CD Projekt talked about his with Witcher 2/3, where they stated that it was the Steam version that went up on the pirates sites and got massively downloaded.

Developers disagree with you, you should try listening to other developers and not CD Projekt which is the most biased source you could find.

There is a reason why Bethesda for instance only releases their games YEARS later on GoG, why Capcom won't release their current games, etc. They all know that it makes it easy to pirate and hence why they will release older games tha barely sell on GoG, but any new game won't be released.

Nope; no developer has ever stated that the GOG version was the one that went up on the pirates sites. Games that use Steam's DRM, which a game like Skyrim used, end up the pirates on the same day of release.

A good example of this is Terminator Resistence, a game on Steam and on GOG, released at the same time. its the Steam version that is up on the pirate sites, not the GOG version.

Another example is Plague Tale series, the pirated version is using steam version, not the GOG version.

[WolfEisberg]

Origineel geplaatst door eram:

Origineel geplaatst door WolfEisberg:

Since when is 28 = 100?

and none of those are going to be rar files, its going to be .bin files.

Thank you for proving that you didn't tell the truth in your comment.

doesnt matter what you think
28 may as well be 100 and thats my personal installer image not a pirate or some nonsense thanks.

28 is massively different than 100, and .bin is a lot different than rar, and having the option to use a single press of a button to get the offline installers is different than being required to do it one at a time.

[eram]

well done missing the point entirely now go on defend 28 sperate download links being fine for an offline install.

gog doesnt want some games to be downloaded offline so make it annoying on purpose.

[WolfEisberg]

Origineel geplaatst door eram:

well done missing the point entirely now go on defend 28 sperate download links being fine for an offline install.

gog doesnt want some games to be downloaded offline so make it annoying on purpose.

so you still ignoring the fact that there is an option to download the offline installers with a single click of a button, so you can come up with this conspiracy theory instead.

and before you say, it, no, it also has nothing to do with wanting people to use GOG Galaxy, because even before GOG Galaxy even existed GOG has always, for 7 years before GOG Galaxy existed, set up the offline installers to be done in 4GB chunks to fit onto DVDs.

So you have no valid point at all.

[eram]

nope... when cybperpunk 2.0 came out you had to download each link separately, if you tried to download all 28 in 1 go it would slow to nothing. no option to download the entire thing

[Boblin the Goblin]

Origineel geplaatst door WolfEisberg:

Origineel geplaatst door eram:

yes of course i can prove it

check out this nonsense
https://imgur.com/a/rjWJ9MB

i didnt know the exact number how many..

26 is too many

28 is too many

Since when is 28 = 100?

and none of those are going to be rar files, its going to be .bin files.

Thank you for proving that you didn't tell the truth in your comment.

Yet you still understood what the point of the comment was.

Which means this whole "you lied" is pretty disingenuous.

[Boblin the Goblin]

Origineel geplaatst door eram:

nope... when cybperpunk 2.0 came out you had to download each link separately, if you tried to download all 28 in 1 go it would slow to nothing. no option to download the entire thing

That's actually pretty garbage.

Plenty of services are able to handle simultaneous downloads fairly well(free and paid). The fact that GoG completely destroys the download speed when they distribute that many files is wild.