Steam DRM

[spatialcash]

I am relatively new to Steam. I had no idea that when you buy a game on this platform even if the game has no DRM, valve puts their own wrapper on the game to prevent it being played with out steam installed/running. I am not arguing this fact. Steam is a company and they can do as they please. I think it would be helpful if there was a disclaimer stating this fact. I know it might be buried in the TOS document but lets be real, nobody reads those line for line. Maybe we should but that is totally different argument to be made. I am not really looking to argue DRM or steam or any publisher/developer using it. I just think they should be upfront about it. That way end users can make an informed decision without having to read 10K lines, single spaced in 6pt helvtica font aka TOS. lol. That was a little bit of an exaggeration, but you get the point. My point of this thread was to inform new folks like me that steam has their own DRM. Also, to suggest to steam to allow people who wish to opt out. Like maybe you don't have access to Steam services if you do while playing or something. Like cloud saves or friend invites. Just for example. Also, I wanted to inform Steam aka Valve, that today they lost business because i bought some games on GOG because of their Steams DRM. If more people join together and start buying games on other platforms without DRM, maybe Steam will change. If we don't nothing will change. If you like owning games you have bought I hope this resonates with you.

[HikariLight]

The reason more DRM keeps getting added is because people keep trying to access things without paying for it.
So if people stop or maybe even slow down on the piracy (pirating content is illegal anyway), maybe game devs will back off on the Anti-Piracy measures.

[Kargor]

Valve isn't putting anything into any games, except into their own of course.

Game makers decide whether they want Steam DRM or not. Steam doesn't exactly advertise whether games have DRM or not, though; they make it look the same.

However, for a game that doesn't use the DRM, you can often just start the .exe directly, without Steam getting launched along with it.

[SKARDAVNELNATE]

The reason people engage in piracy is not to access things without paying for it. It's to not have to put up with DRM.

[Caduryn]

SKARDAVNELNATE a écrit :

The reason people engage in piracy is not to access things without paying for it. It's to not have to put up with DRM.

SURE....

[Caduryn]

spatialcash a écrit :

I am relatively new to Steam. I had no idea that when you buy a game on this platform even if the game has no DRM, valve puts their own wrapper on the game to prevent it being played with out steam installed/running. I am not arguing this fact. Steam is a company and they can do as they please. I think it would be helpful if there was a disclaimer stating this fact. I know it might be buried in the TOS document but lets be real, nobody reads those line for line. Maybe we should but that is totally different argument to be made. I am not really looking to argue DRM or steam or any publisher/developer using it. I just think they should be upfront about it. That way end users can make an informed decision without having to read 10K lines, single spaced in 6pt helvtica font aka TOS. lol. That was a little bit of an exaggeration, but you get the point. My point of this thread was to inform new folks like me that steam has their own DRM. Also, to suggest to steam to allow people who wish to opt out. Like maybe you don't have access to Steam services if you do while playing or something. Like cloud saves or friend invites. Just for example. Also, I wanted to inform Steam aka Valve, that today they lost business because i bought some games on GOG because of their Steams DRM. If more people join together and start buying games on other platforms without DRM, maybe Steam will change. If we don't nothing will change. If you like owning games you have bought I hope this resonates with you.

Steam does not decide if a Game uses DRM or not....

[Start_Running]

Valve puts nothing on the game.
Any level of drm is implemented by the dev/pubs.

[Ben Lubar]

spatialcash a écrit :

I am relatively new to Steam. I had no idea that when you buy a game on this platform even if the game has no DRM, valve puts their own wrapper on the game to prevent it being played with out steam installed/running.

They don't do that, no.

The files you download are exactly the files the game's developers uploaded unless the game is enrolled in Steam CEG, which is quite rare and fully a decision made by the developers and not Valve.