valve can you please do something about moderation?

[JxstWink]

steam private profile users are genuinely the most gamble you can ever get in terms of first impressions of people you can ever come across on this garbage landscape that magically somehow became the #1 destination for PC gaming

while dead internet theory is being pushed second by second, can we please talk about how steam lets millions of unregulated accounts go on random tangents and neither spawn random flame wars or ruin live games without ever being dished a community suspension or just any moderation to any extent whatsoever?

i mean, to put this into perspective; im willing to bet (NOT ACCURATE) that there's like 17% of steam private profiles that are either normal people, the dead or deceased (rip you have our respect) or just twitch streamers or some crap that fits in the genuinely okay and mentally stabled area, then you have the 83% that are neither scammers, blatant cheaters that somehow didn't get tapped by VAC and god knows how long the accounts been up for, nasty/gross/horrid community members (the ones that has a post locked in less than a day's time) or malicious activities. IE: steam community profile name snipers and ETC.

the only good things that ever come out of these accounts are always without a doubt something moderated related. it gives the random 17% (not accurate but lets just say the good people who wish to keep a anonymous profile) of steam user's that just wanna play in private a bad faith to their presence, and makes genuine people that use the feature look HORRIBLE, so much you can technically say this is just blatant divided racism occurring, on a gaming platform 💀

no joke: the amount of CS2 matches ruined back when i didn't have prime was insanely HORRID, and even with prime i have the joy of either being 1-slapped by vac cuz a sorry a** cheater decided to toggle winning 8-3, a EU (probable) immigrant playing on american servers cuz his wife got him a green card, or just genuine match-throwers cuz they got pissy that nobody bought for them even after winning out of eco by 4 rounds from that point. it straight up beat the taste out of my mouth for competitive, and i have a REALLY good trust factor, its just that because CS2 treat fresh spawned accounts like they would do no harm, this just means probable trouble ahead for users who played by the rules for days, months or even YEARS, and its genuinely insane how this crap goes unmoderated.

instead of taking our rights away from spawning class-action or warranted lawsuits or court cases, pls add discrimination features for unknown or not-set-up steam accounts. i would grab my balls by the grip and man up to escape 3k premiere but its not worth it when every game is just a straight gamble. this applies to other online games as well, so much that i sometimes find myself buying the xbox version of the game and playing with crossplay turned off

[Nx Machina]

Thread title: steam private profiles are the worst thing to ever exist on this platform there's no debate

Originally posted by JxstWink:

steam private profile users are genuinely the worst people you can ever come across

8 of your Steam friends have Private profiles.

[JxstWink]

Originally posted by Nx Machina:

8 of your Steam friends have Private profiles.

again as i said before, 83% of you people are deranged and lack in the mental department. so taking this into account; i have 8 steam friends, with private profiles, and i have 130 friends total, this would mean in percentage, that EXACTLY 6.15% of my steam friends are private.

dont know why someone is sending me clown rewards, but thanks for the free steam points! again, steam as a platform for community is garbage and its not really hard to explain why

[Nx Machina]

Originally posted by JxstWink:

I have 8 steam friends, with private profiles,

Exactly and that would include them regarding your thread title of:

steam private profiles are the worst thing to ever exist on this platform there's no debate

And the premise of:

Originally posted by JxstWink:

steam private profile users are genuinely the worst people you can ever come across

[JxstWink]

Originally posted by Nx Machina:

Originally posted by JxstWink:

I have 8 steam friends, with private profiles,

Exactly and that would include them regarding your thread title

the feature as a whole is fatally flawed, needs no debating. a user who have their profile private shouldn't be able to engage with the steam community. very normal and blatant point.

the reason why i don't make enough emphasis on the 17% is because usually the vocal point from their take is that "they shouldn't be barred from interacting with the steam community because of a "minority" of people who give them a bad look, shouldn't define who the user is as a whole."

the feature itself is flawed in so many ways. in fact, it defeats the entire purpose of it being "private"

pointless rant, avoid with caution
want your trust factor to be tarnished in CS? report any player for "abusive communications or profile" but unmute the player that you just reported from the scoreboard.

this is exactly what private steam profiles are like. a hot majority is there to absolutely ruin your day, and a small minority are friendable. and don't even get me started on users that was flamed so hard they had no choice to go private.

in a nutshell: steam private profiles are a cheap tactic for rotten apples of the steam community to get away with heinous acts.

its no wonder why most forums gets de-railed into oblivion before its shutdown, following the culprit was because of a user, who's profile either just gone private, or been private for how long and for what. it should also be heavily pointed out that there's a WILD bias when it comes to public profiles vs private profile moderation; you're more likely to be community suspended with a open profile vs that compared to a private profile, which is extremely ironic given the circumstances.

I mean no harm to the 8 steam friends i have with a private profile, i just have extreme distaste for how steam handles moderation between public and private profiles. its not only just unfair, but extremely lazy and unfaithful in steams own acts. and its not like we can jump ship, epic games have their heads way too much in their a** to be considered a competitor and microsoft been in the gutter for a while, so inevitably for a pc player, you neither pirate to avoid steam, or flat out suck the raging rod that extends from gaben that is often inevitable.

[Satoru]

So what you’re actually mad about is that you want to be a toxic terrible human being but that CS2 has a punishment for that

[Nx Machina]

Originally posted by JxstWink:

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the feature as a whole is fatally flawed, needs no debating. a user who have their profile private shouldn't be able to engage with the steam community. very normal and blatant point.

And your 8 Private profile friends interact with the community therefore yet again, they are included in:

steam private profiles are the worst thing to ever exist on this platform there's no debate

Originally posted by JxstWink:

steam private profile users are genuinely the worst people you can ever come across

Yet you keep excluding them.

As for:

Originally posted by JxstWink:

]in a nutshell: steam private profiles are a cheap tactic for rotten apples of the steam community to get away with heinous acts.

Do your 8 Private profile friends know how you feel about them?

You should really link them this thread.

[JxstWink]

Originally posted by Satoru:

So what you’re actually mad about is that you want to be a toxic terrible human being but that CS2 has a punishment for that

hot, but also cold. im mad that steam allows bad actors to throw bricks through invisible houses at houses that caused no harm, then said invisible house gets away with it while the normal house has its value ruined.

nice way of simplifying you probably cant read though, but thats my fault for expecting a high-iq discussion on a platform that's notoriously known for moderation that's somehow worse than roblox's

[JxstWink]

Originally posted by Nx Machina:

Yet you keep excluding them.

interact as if posting on the steam discussion boards/profiles. messaging, friending are like the only 2 that should go unschaved

im talking or referring to actors that are known or repeat offenders of the steam community, yet nothing gets done because as i said before, steam's moderation is sleek behind in light years. exclusion or not, to have a private profile and have someone befriend you takes miles when you think about it in consideration. there's no motive, you don't even know what the dude's inventory looks like, its just sheer friendship most of the time, and the rare is miscellaneous.

if you think im trying to paint all private steam users in a bad spotlight, that's not what im doing. im stating how steam lets BAD actors go unschaved while the good ones don't ever interact with the community to some degree. this is what i mean when i say "steam private profiles are the worst thing to ever exist" because to many, its just a cheap excuse of dodging previous heat or tension that the user was involved in prior to going private.

you could push a narrative that a hot majority of private steam accounts are probably just like how celebrities go private after being exposed or outed as a "creep", but thats throwing things way out of proportion.

sure, the feature is hot garbage, but its VALVE's fault for not defying moderation, and eventually theyre gonna reap what they sowed, just like how a moderator once got DOXXED and had his lively hood at extreme risk because of some jerkface edgelord that was using [and i quote] "PRIVATED STEAM ACCOUNTS TO MASS-GRAB RARE STEAM IDS."

while the feature is pro consumer, its awfully horrible on valve's end, because seemingly or not, they cannot moderate for sh*t when it comes down to the grand scheme of things. the feature needs to be revised, or just scrapped as a whole, unless they get a moderation devision thats up to date, and isnt anything like the godawful lawyer team that took down multiple fan-projects related to tf2 for "IP infringement"

[Mr. Mutilation]

Always consider the source. If you do not value what someone says on the internet based on your perceptions or how they carry themselves then don't engage. What is the difference between them saying something highly opinionated for attention and you wanting the attention? Not much. A whole generation of kids were raised by the internet to "adulthood" and only know anonymity. Then these people are reproducing at an alarming rate as patriarchs and matriarchs of their household in which accountability is and has always been non existent. The same folks that get stabbed 15 times in public and play the victim after THEM instigating it.

[ReamedBySteem]

translation: Someone with a private profile stuck sand in the op's urethra. Let's move on.

[JxstWink]

Originally posted by ReamedBySteem:

translation: Someone with a private profile stuck sand in the op's urethra. Let's move on.

accurate translation: a no-name in the cs community magically queued with me and got my whole team slapped by vac for 1 day cuz lol now op is seething on steam forums

[wesnef]

So this is just another PvP thing?

Honestly, it seems like multiplayer/PvP is the *real* bad idea, so many problems (from bans, to toxic behavior, to cheating, to all this market scam stuff) come from it. ;)



Some of us just have private profiles because we like our privacy. We don't necessarily pvp or play MP games. (I certainly don't)

[Wayward]

Originally posted by JxstWink:

Originally posted by ReamedBySteem:

translation: Someone with a private profile stuck sand in the op's urethra. Let's move on.

accurate translation: a no-name in the cs community magically queued with me and got my whole team slapped by vac for 1 day cuz lol now op is seething on steam forums

Slapped by VAC for 1 day? And how is that? Considering that's not how VAC works...

[JxstWink]

Originally posted by wesnef:

So this is just another PvP thing?

Honestly, it seems like multiplayer/PvP is the *real* bad idea, so many problems (from bans, to toxic behavior, to cheating, to all this market scam stuff) come from it. ;)



Some of us just have private profiles because we like our privacy. We don't necessarily pvp or play MP games. (I certainly don't)

my apologies if the original message comes across as me flaming the whole community, i made it out of shock because of some dude who had a private profile got my team suspended on cs2.

i just want valve to do better when it comes down to moderation

lemme make it clear that i dont think the good actors needs to be dragged into this by any means or any cases at all, despite being a minority in the major issue, i just wish valve had some discriminator mode for this, or just improve VAC/moderation as a whole.

i think there's a story somewhere on the forums about how someone played TF2 and got 1 tapped by VAC for using cheat engine while playing against bots offline. this just shows how incompetent valve is about nurturing their community, and their "IDGAF lmao my crap is 100% accurate" attitude is gonna be the same thing that destroys the platform as a whole

[JxstWink]

Originally posted by Wayward:

Originally posted by JxstWink:

accurate translation: a no-name in the cs community magically queued with me and got my whole team slapped by vac for 1 day cuz lol now op is seething on steam forums

Slapped by VAC for 1 day? And how is that? Considering that's not how VAC works...

in rare conditions, a official valve server may detect a player that is cheating. when this happens, everyone (and its REGARDLESS if you were partied up with them or not) on the cheater team will be punished and suspended for atleast a day as a penalty, and the game will cease operation. nobody will be affected but the cheater, and that depends on if they're dished the 1 week ban for irregular gameplay, or the inevitable review partner game-banning them via overwatch.