"Redundancy" as a ban reason is being abused for arbitrary bans

[CHAO$$$]

Having "redundancy" as a ban reason is basically a loophole to ban everything and everyone as almost everything related to humanity can be regarded as "redundant".

There are 8 billion humans on the planet, 99.9% of which havent had a unique thought in their life. Everytime anyone gives their opinion its guaranteed to be redundant.
If you use grammarly, everything you say is by design redundant as its AI trained.
99.9% of food products and consumer goods in general are redundant. Just have 1 type of nutritious soylent goop.
99.9% of youtube is redundant content.
99.9% of creative arts writing and music is redundant as it just reuses already existing concepts and ideas.

Theres a million jester farm lgbt inclusion threads made by people who dont give 2 ♥♥♥♥♥ about gay rights that you do nothing about because you dont actually care about them being redundant to hell and back.

If you could, in the meantime, do something about the steam forum basically turning into the same botting heaven that youtube already is i would appreciate it. But dont do it based on redundancy. Use something thats actually able to target more specific aspects.

[CHAO$$$]

Literally, if you'd remove all of the easily identifiable redundant posts from the steam forums youd remove 90% of all posts/threads in total.

[xBCxRangers]

Well, "redundancy" i feel is a bit nit picky, and i got nailed for that once (though it was likely overturned) where you're answering a post with...

"That is incorrect. You are wrong. That is not the case. That is false". Etc.

We have a poster here does that a lot, so much so, the rumor he is a chat bot.

In other words, if the posts are not followed thru with a meaning or explanation, it seems to be considered spam or "redundant", and is against the rules.

But for a site that is a gaming site, and 13 to enter, these rules are admittedly, being administered a way bit much.

[Mad Scientist]

Well if people go into a coming-soon game and tend to have negative behavior etc; they do tend to pick a reason to show such individuals the door when multiple things can be chosen from to take action on.

[CHAO$$$]

Originalmente postado por Mad Scientist:

Well if people go into a coming-soon game and tend to have negative behavior etc; they do tend to pick a reason to show such individuals the door when multiple things can be chosen from to take action on.

the fact that youre on my blocklist is honestly a massive red flag especially with that much vague wording

[CHAO$$$]

Also i googled this ♥♥♥♥

https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/10ccvs2/steam_forum_mods_are_now_banning_users_for/

^this thread has 2K+ upvotes 2 years ago

holy hell, its been happening that long, thats INSANE
you can literally ban anyone for anything just by saying its a redundant post LMAO

[rawWwRrr]

Redundant post. Just like the others who complain about moderation usually as a result of being moderated. No one cares that you got moderated.

[Mad Scientist]

Originalmente postado por CHAO$$$:

Originalmente postado por Mad Scientist:

Well if people go into a coming-soon game and tend to have negative behavior etc; they do tend to pick a reason to show such individuals the door when multiple things can be chosen from to take action on.

the fact that youre on my blocklist is honestly a massive red flag especially with that much vague wording

Almost like the same thing tends to result in the same actions even in different hubs.

[Wolfpig]

Originalmente postado por CHAO$$$:

Originalmente postado por Mad Scientist:

Well if people go into a coming-soon game and tend to have negative behavior etc; they do tend to pick a reason to show such individuals the door when multiple things can be chosen from to take action on.

the fact that youre on my blocklist is honestly a massive red flag especially with that much vague wording

Seems you care so much for what he writes that you let the postings show so you can answer them...... that is not how a blocklist is working.

[CHAO$$$]

Originalmente postado por Mad Scientist:

Originalmente postado por CHAO$$$:

the fact that youre on my blocklist is honestly a massive red flag especially with that much vague wording

Almost like the same thing tends to result in the same actions even in different hubs.

reported for redundancy, 2nd post didnt add any new information or value

[CHAO$$$]

Originalmente postado por Wolfpig:

Originalmente postado por CHAO$$$:

the fact that youre on my blocklist is honestly a massive red flag especially with that much vague wording

Seems you care so much for what he writes that you let the postings show so you can answer them...... that is not how a blocklist is working.

theres 2 kinds of people i usually have on my banlist, people who are terrible at vermintide 2 and people who are a bit too suspicious in their extremely heavy forum use and agenda pushing

and this guy doesnt strike me as a VT player

[CHAO$$$]

For what its worth, the thing you should be worried about is like i said in the topic.

You can literally be banned for ANYTHING under the reason of being "redundant".
Because basically EVERYTHING made by humans is redundant

[Mad Scientist]

Originalmente postado por CHAO$$$:

Originalmente postado por Mad Scientist:

Almost like the same thing tends to result in the same actions even in different hubs.

reported for redundancy, 2nd post didnt add any new information or value

Did you forget they generally frown upon threads that contest bans?

Originalmente postado por CHAO$$$:

For what its worth, the thing you should be worried about is like i said in the topic.

You can literally be banned for ANYTHING under the reason of being "redundant".
Because basically EVERYTHING made by humans is redundant

Let me guess, game hub moderator? Game hubs can give reasons they want, even if it's more vague; given the content in that hub, there's a good amount they may have an issue with.

[xBCxRangers]

Originalmente postado por Mad Scientist:

Originalmente postado por CHAO$$$:

reported for redundancy, 2nd post didnt add any new information or value

Did you forget they generally frown upon threads that contest bans?

Originalmente postado por CHAO$$$:

For what its worth, the thing you should be worried about is like i said in the topic.

You can literally be banned for ANYTHING under the reason of being "redundant".
Because basically EVERYTHING made by humans is redundant

Let me guess, game hub moderator? Game hubs can give reasons they want, even if it's more vague; given the content in that hub, there's a good amount they may have an issue with.

Well, the good news is, those Devs can now be sued. Like what Valve has stated, as much as they want people to come to their forums for redress, if they do not get it, they can go thru the courts, in many cases small claims, and get redress for the matter, with no real cost of their own.

And so if i were these developers, i'd probably want to make sure i treat my customers respectfully, and put people in moderation positions who know what they are doing, in case records are subpeoned, and they find themselves in a matter, they never bargained for.

[Mad Scientist]

Originalmente postado por MrNewell123:

Originalmente postado por Mad Scientist:

Did you forget they generally frown upon threads that contest bans?


Let me guess, game hub moderator? Game hubs can give reasons they want, even if it's more vague; given the content in that hub, there's a good amount they may have an issue with.

Well, the good news is, those Devs can now be sued.

The ssa update says nothing of the sort.
Plus they're allowed to ban people that misbehave in their hubs, including ban evasion and on multiple accounts. You'd be slammed with a large bill if you tried to sue a game dev for banning an individual that failed to follow civility rules.

[xBCxRangers]

Originalmente postado por Mad Scientist:

Originalmente postado por MrNewell123:

Well, the good news is, those Devs can now be sued.

The ssa update says nothing of the sort.
Plus they're allowed to ban people that misbehave in their hubs, including ban evasion and on multiple hubs. You'd be slammed with a large bill if you tried to sue a game dev for banning an individual that failed to follow civility rules.

It would cost those here, 15 usd to process the case. And the money to park your car in the lot, if you choose to drive.