wbino 28 AGO 2024 a las 12:51 p. m.
With Telegram being outed as having foreign influences and chat in its forums....
does Steam monitor languages for criminal acts or coded messages?
Or have the ability to do so?
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Brian9824 29 AGO 2024 a las 11:58 a. m. 
Publicado originalmente por Boblin the Goblin:
Publicado originalmente por MrNewell123:

To make it short sir, that is most wholly incorrect. The whole rationale of the report, is in fact the need under current circumstances to monitor these gaming companies.

And to do that, going to your point, and theirs, they need newer strategies. That does not mean, the limited strategies are not being implemented, at all.

As far as the "tools', one can be "simple report forms". Of course, that's all we know.

But that's not only what they may be implementing. Idt the government, is going to tell you or i, how to not get caught.

In any event, thank you for the chat. But next time, you should know who these agencies are.

The rationale for the reports, and when you know that, you'll go into the report having at least the knowledge of what they are trying to imply.

And i think its pretty cut and dry what they're implying. That in the day of terror, and with documented cases on these game sites and chats, our Law Enforcement Agencies need more tools to monitor these sites, effectively. Which of course, makes sense. Bye.
If I am incorrect, post the quotes from the document showing so. You've had multiple chances across two accounts and have yet to do so.

I can understand the frustration. No one likes being corrected publicly. But, that's what happens when misinformation is spread.

I can only recommend reading the sources provided to understand and not to just copy/paste. It will help in the long run.

Yep, I mean the report even states

Publicado originalmente por GAO Report:
What GAO Recommends
GAO recommends that the FBI and DHS each develop strategies and goals for sharing information related to domestic violent extremism with social media and gaming companies. The agencies concurred with the recommendations.

Nothing about monitoring any companies, its all about the FBI and DHS needing to improve their sharing of data with other companies and the FBI and DHS even agreed with the GAO.
xBCxRangers 29 AGO 2024 a las 12:00 p. m. 
Publicado originalmente por Mad Scientist:
Publicado originalmente por MrNewell123:
"The FBI and DHS have some tools for sharing information with and receiving information from social media and gaming companies on threats related to domestic terrorism."
Standardized report form present on their own website that anyone can fill out or anyone can make a phone call to is considerable as a tool because the fbi is considered a government tool/resource

Again, as another reminder;
Publicado originalmente por Mad Scientist:
the thread is about this;

Right i get it Mad Scientist, and we are deciphering what our governments are trying to do to counter these measures.

That is what this is about. I didn't want to leave you out, i saw you in there trying to get a word in. And i hope the response sufficient.

The rest were asked, and answered.
Última edición por xBCxRangers; 29 AGO 2024 a las 12:02 p. m.
Mad Scientist 29 AGO 2024 a las 12:02 p. m. 
Publicado originalmente por MrNewell123:
Right i get it Mad Scientist, and we are deciphering what our governments are trying to do to counter these measures. That is what this is about. I didn't want to leave you out, i saw you in there trying to get a word in. And i hope the response sufficient.
This thread is literally not about any of that.

I answered the OPs question with a realistic on topic point. We don't need it to become agency this, agency that. People can report online or call anything to any agency with a form or contact point.
Última edición por Mad Scientist; 29 AGO 2024 a las 12:03 p. m.
Brian9824 29 AGO 2024 a las 12:02 p. m. 
Publicado originalmente por MrNewell123:
Publicado originalmente por Mad Scientist:
Standardized report form present on their own website that anyone can fill out or anyone can make a phone call to is considerable as a tool because the fbi is considered a government tool/resource

Again, as another reminder;

Right i get it Mad Scientist, and we are deciphering what our governments are trying to do to counter these measures. That is what this is about. I didn't want to leave you out, i saw you in there trying to get a word in. And i hope the response sufficient.

Interesting, can you explain how steam is somehow a government? Last I checked they were a software company



Publicado originalmente por wbino:
does Steam monitor languages for criminal acts or coded messages?
Or have the ability to do so?
xBCxRangers 29 AGO 2024 a las 12:08 p. m. 
Publicado originalmente por Mad Scientist:
Publicado originalmente por MrNewell123:
Right i get it Mad Scientist, and we are deciphering what our governments are trying to do to counter these measures. That is what this is about. I didn't want to leave you out, i saw you in there trying to get a word in. And i hope the response sufficient.
This thread is literally not about any of that.
I would recommend answering the OPs question.

I thought i did. Our government is being proactive as to counter measures of criminality, and have documented as such.

Idt our government is absent of the fact, people use their own codes, wording, even creating languages as to traverse these sites in a manner, only the wrongdoers would understand.

It can happen here, in game chat, and other means. That is why, our government, and in this case, Steam, need to be "proactive" in how they deal with these issues.

Meaning, if someone comes onto a chat types this...qkhrjobjp[53[365kh in a matter of speaking, it may mean the guy is nuts, or it may mean coding or other means of communication from crooks.

However, a "report" may not pick up on that. Thats why, Steam needs eyes and ears, on our fora, to know who these actors, are.

And need to communicate these matters, to our government, meaning "they" may know what it is given their intelligence, but Steam may not.

They need better "tools" to communicate these matters

And so these "tools" our government and sites may be currently using, may not be sufficient, and other means needed, if they have been implemented already.
Última edición por xBCxRangers; 29 AGO 2024 a las 12:14 p. m.
Mad Scientist 29 AGO 2024 a las 12:21 p. m. 
Publicado originalmente por MrNewell123:
Publicado originalmente por Mad Scientist:
This thread is literally not about any of that.
I would recommend answering the OPs question.

I thought i did. Our government
Full stop.
Steam is not a government. Any individual let alone a company can report to most government agencies if there's an issue in need of attention, those are the tools; online form, phone call, email. Individual citizens can do this, companies can do this, some lines may be for more specific crimes or alerts. That's it.

The OPs question is what STEAM monitors, not government this, not government that, what Steam Monitors for criminal activity or coded messages. Valve is not the government, Steam is not government software. OP is asking what steam can possibly do or if they can, like most places; the company can see stuff & report it, but the thread is OP asking about a steam-only environment.
Brian9824 29 AGO 2024 a las 12:24 p. m. 
Publicado originalmente por Mad Scientist:
Publicado originalmente por MrNewell123:

I thought i did. Our government
Full stop.
Steam is not a government. Any individual let alone a company can report to most government agencies if there's an issue in need of attention, those are the tools; online form, phone call, email. Individual citizens can do this, companies can do this, some lines may be for more specific crimes or alerts. That's it.

The OPs question is what STEAM monitors, not government this, not government that, what Steam Monitors for criminal activity or coded messages. Valve is not the government, Steam is not government software. OP is asking what steam can possibly do or if they can, like most places; the company can see stuff & report it, but the thread is OP asking about a steam-only environment.

I mean it makes sense now that he is confused and doesn't know Steam is not a government. That explains all the off topic posts
xBCxRangers 29 AGO 2024 a las 12:28 p. m. 
Publicado originalmente por Mad Scientist:
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I'm sorry sir, you have posed a question, and i have explained. The OP wanted to know, how to stop these activities. The GAO Report, likely why it was brought up, is to give gaming sites (which Steam is) and law enforcement the "tools" to counter such measures.

And the government, may give Steam that knowledge, they may not already know.

And so, before you spam a report button for off topic, know why they are generally overturned, being these are "on topic "matters. And specifically on topic.

If you did not know that, hopefully, you have been educated as to why. If not, listen to others, and learn. Mind, before mouth,.
Última edición por xBCxRangers; 29 AGO 2024 a las 12:33 p. m.
Brian9824 29 AGO 2024 a las 12:32 p. m. 
Publicado originalmente por MrNewell123:
The OP wanted to know, how to stop these activities. The GAO Report, likely why it was brought up, is to give gaming sites (which Steam is) and law enforcement the "tools" to counter such measures.

I'm sorry, I must have missed it, can you show us where the OP talks about the GAO report or anything to do with Government? I'm not seeing it here

Publicado originalmente por wbino:
does Steam monitor languages for criminal acts or coded messages?
Or have the ability to do so?

Tools for sharing data with the government are not the same thing as tools for monitoring what users post. That would be stuff like the tools they use to scan comments for scam links before they are posted.

The only user who apparently was confused was this user here who brought up the GAO report and started the off topic posts about it.

Publicado originalmente por xBCxRangers:

Well it's certainly not a conspiracy theory, the FBI, DHS and other agencies have put out a memo (for open use), more appropriately their watchdog group at the GAO, in the fact they're working in concert with these gaming sites, or in the least, need too. That is a fact.

And so, i would say, unless we're to believe Steam is only acting from a reactive standpoint (reports), others may not be. They can be here, amongst us right now.

Bottom line being, i certainly would not try what the OP is claiming others may or will do.
Mad Scientist 29 AGO 2024 a las 12:37 p. m. 
Publicado originalmente por MrNewell123:
The OP wanted to know, how to stop these activities. The GAO Report
That report has no bearing on the OPs question and has been brought up in so many threads where it's not even relevant.

The question is if they monitor for illegal activities or coded messages, not "how to stop" anything, and not anything government entities. They have their own systems to stop known issue content, which is why some things are censored by default or may raise automated bans.
xBCxRangers 29 AGO 2024 a las 12:43 p. m. 
Publicado originalmente por Mad Scientist:
Publicado originalmente por MrNewell123:
The OP wanted to know, how to stop these activities. The GAO Report
That report has no bearing on the OPs question and has been brought up in so many threads where it's not even relevant.

The question is if they monitor for illegal activities or coded messages, not "how to stop" anything, and not anything government entities. They have their own systems to stop known issue content, which is why some things are censored by default or may raise automated bans.

The poster is alluding to a Law Enforcement matter (Telegram) and it was explained, Steam may not have the tools, Law Enforcement may have, to educate them on these matters.

And in return, with these new "tools", Steam and others can communicate these issues better, to Law Enforcement. That means, Steam, and Law Enforcement. Not you. Not Brian. Not i. Not posters.

That is what will counter the issue.
Brian9824 29 AGO 2024 a las 12:47 p. m. 
Publicado originalmente por MrNewell123:

The poster is alluding to a Law Enforcement matter (Telegram) and it was explained, Steam may not have the tools, Law Enforcement may have, to educate them on these matters.

No, the poster asked what tools STEAM has to identify and remove the content, it has nothing to do with law enforcement, nor the FBI, DHS, or GAO. This is not about communicating anything. The OP simply asked if steam has the tools to identify and flag criminal acts. They did not ask anything about what they do with it if they identify it.

Again please read


Publicado originalmente por wbino:
does Steam monitor languages for criminal acts or coded messages?
Or have the ability to do so?

No mention of government, law enforcement, etc. Anyone claiming he is asking about those is not making a good faith claim as the words literally do not exist.
Última edición por Brian9824; 29 AGO 2024 a las 12:48 p. m.
xBCxRangers 29 AGO 2024 a las 12:51 p. m. 
Publicado originalmente por Brian9824:
Publicado originalmente por MrNewell123:

The poster is alluding to a Law Enforcement matter (Telegram) and it was explained, Steam may not have the tools, Law Enforcement may have, to educate them on these matters.

No, the poster asked what tools STEAM has to identify and remove the content, it has nothing to do with law enforcement, nor the FBI, DHS, or GAO.

Again please read


Publicado originalmente por wbino:
does Steam monitor languages for criminal acts or coded messages?
Or have the ability to do so?

No mention of government, law enforcement, etc. Anyone claiming he is asking about those is not making a good faith claim as the words literally do not exist.

And as what was explained, Steam may not have the TOOLS, the OP is alluding too.

Well how do they get the "tools" to understand law enforcement matters? Guess?

And at the same time, how does Law Enforcement get the tools Steam may know, that they do not? Guess.

I rest the case, and you can go on if you want. It's really an easy one, but i do understand folks may not know how these issues work, and was hoping the Report would shed some light.

Now you can feed on all that.
Última edición por xBCxRangers; 29 AGO 2024 a las 12:51 p. m.
Komarimaru 29 AGO 2024 a las 12:53 p. m. 
As for Steam tools, not sure they'd really tell anyone.

We do know messages on forums will be blocked for analysis, links blocked if feel unsafe etc.
Brian9824 29 AGO 2024 a las 12:54 p. m. 
Publicado originalmente por MrNewell123:
Well how do they get the "tools" to understand law enforcement matters? Guess?

No one but you are talking about law enforcement. You are the only one who keeps bringing it up. OP asked what tools steam has for identifying the content that they then moderate. The same type of tools that they use right now for identifying scam links in posts and other malicious content. The tools they develop that scan for known words in a list of forbidden words.

Publicado originalmente por MrNewell123:
I rest the case,
Good, so you can stop derailing it going on about law enforcement that only you are wanting to talk about. Thank you for stopping.
Última edición por Brian9824; 29 AGO 2024 a las 12:54 p. m.
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