So the games I bought (with real money) dont belong me?

[Dūdêł.Pūmä </3...]

So, can my “license” be revoked at any time? why is this only now apparent? that MY PURCHASED GAMES do not belong to me
Its like when I buy a car, after a few years he comes and says "I want the car back because I only sold you a license for it", back in the day you bought a CD and the one playing was MINE when it was If devs came to me and took it away from me, it would of course be theft!

That cant be right, there is a petition for the EU please everyone sign it! and if Steam were to be banned in the EU, over to GOG because the games you buy really belong to you (why does GOG manage that?)

[SKARDAVNELNATE]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Ben Lubar:

Back when they invented the printing press do you think people got scared and confused about not owning the story in the books they bought?

Not at all. I think they owned the book. I think they could sell the book. I think they could read the book at any time without anyone interfering with it.

I think that no one was confused and telling people that they don't own books. I think people did not tell them to burn the book if they didn't meet certain demands.

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Chika Ogiue:

Remember when NFTs were all the rage? Some dudebros bought a book from an auction or something and thought that gave them the right to distribute it as NFTs. Boy were they quickly taught that's not how that works.

That's Jodorowsky's Dune, an example I have brought up many times. They own the book. They do not own the characters, setting, plot, or distribution. Certain people keep conflating owning a game with owning an IP. Only the people saying you don't own either think these are the same thing.

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Ursprünglich geschrieben von Caduryn:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von xBCxRangers:

Steam is in crisis. Moderation crisis. Arbitration crisis. TOS crisis.

People just seem to be getting fed up, as we see no leadership from this company, that has become completely, rudderless atp.

Sad to watch

The only sad thing is insane lazy People not reading ANY EULA/TOS for the last 20+ Years

aint nobody read that 💩
best thing to do is print it out and use it as TP
Good clean feelin

[Chika Ogiue]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Pelvis:

Well i thought the most important part is that u can keep playing your games all your life no matter if u have internet or if the company goes out of business

As has been the case since the dawn of gaming, you can play any game for as long as the game is available. Whether a company goes out of business or not is for the large part, irrelevant. And this holds true for Steam, too.

In a hypothetical situation where GOG goes out of business, you'll have access to a game for as long as your offline installer works. That doesn't mean it's guaranteed to work for the duration of your life. New PC hardware could, for one, render the installer unusable. Older hardware no longer being available in such a situation would also result in the same. The media on which you stored the installers could fail at any time.

And no license for a video game has promised you access to that game for the duration of your life.

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Aluvard:

It was the NFT group, that spent about 2.66 million € on rare copy of Dune. If you read about their further plans, they were really detached from reality (buy book, convert it into JPGs, burn book, Dune is now a JPG).

Yep. That's the one.

Ursprünglich geschrieben von xBCxRangers:

Steam is in crisis.

No, it isn't.

[Tito Shivan]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von xBCxRangers:

People just seem to be getting fed up

Not for the reasons you believe, though.

[xBCxRangers]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Tito Shivan:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von xBCxRangers:

People just seem to be getting fed up

Not for the reasons you believe, though.

Right, everyones just making it up.

[wesnef]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von xBCxRangers:

Steam is in crisis. Moderation crisis. Arbitration crisis. TOS crisis.

The only crisis it's in is a clickbait crisis - bunch of people flooding the forums with made-up drama over nothing.

Misinformation, ignorance, and sensationalism running out of control.

[Crazy Tiger]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Dūdêł.Pūmä </3...:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Crazy Tiger:

Actually, what is shocking is that you have been agreeing to terms for years without ever reading them. Cause, you know, NOTHING CHANGED.


That petition has nothing to do with this subject. Again, if you had read anything about that, you would know.

Your problem is with your reading skills and comprehension.

can you guys pls shut up? "did you not read the terms?", "what you are not in love with the terms? and you also dosent want to marry them?" look nerdys not everyone has interest to read the hole bs what another nerdy guy writen... but its perfectly for you guys, from DC mod for DC nerdy mods xD also friendly S T F U!

It's your own responsibility to inform yourself. If you're too lazy to read the terms, that's on you. Your ignorance, however, does not change reality or the legal value of those terms. Nothing has changed, you always only owned a license.

You've only been fooling yourself, honey.