Harassed by a pro-woke? The mods wait until they can ban you too

[Beta Ray Shill]

Here's a direct link to my friend’s last response on the BG3 forums , which has been deleted several times without explanation from the BG3 mods.

Commenting here on his behalf as they also added a ‘community ban’, even though the only active ban is from the above.

‘Evil is as evil does’ - they are abusing their powers across the board here.

Note - no ban was delivered for the above, as it's obviously on-topic and isn't aimed at any one poster.

Another poster hopped in, however - clearly a pro-woke, judging by its history on the thread - and delivered a one-liner bait with a link to some medication and the little quip 'this should help you out'.

Sure, this guy got what was coming to him. But not until my pal had to make a counter-response - literally just 'that a link to your cope?'

1 week ban.

My point is, you report them and nothing happens because they're pro-woke and Steam support are pro-woke. So they do nothing, unless the other guy/gal makes a similar slip, or something they can frame as such.

There’s nothing in the ‘is that you’re cope’ remark which hasn't been used as a counter-response all over this platform.

Anyway, I'm not checking back in on this one - I know the script in advance. This is merely a note to let Steam know that their game is obvious. And that abusing your powers to add a ban for counter-sarcasm, and then adding a 'community lockdown' when no other bans are active, is a disgrace.

As for the 'regulars' who arrive in to pontificate about 'their house, their rules' - would you not save yourself the few minutes it takes to type it? Because it's neither read nor does it come off as particularly original at this point.

I'd strongly suggest copy and pasting it to a user who hasn't read it, because then you might invite some of the social interaction that you appear to be aiming for.

It won't be from me.

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EDIT - Two further notes:

1. If my pal had of attacked the other guy (pro-woke) first, and the pro-woke retorted with 'is that your cope', my pal would've been banned and the pro-woke let off the hook

2. For those who think these complaints don't make a difference - unfortunately, they very much do. Steam even send mere 'support ticket' criticisms back for 'team discussion' (they state as much), so this works in the same way and is just more public

[Mad Scientist]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย D. Flame:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Mad Scientist:

You don't tend to get a community version by being removed from ONE hub; it takes multiple bans within a short period of time, so if someone got multiple steam hub bans, then got removed from a game hub within a short period of time, that can likely do it. But just being removed from a hub does a lot of nothing, unless someone has a large history to go with it.

I did NOT say ONE hub. I said multiple Hubs from the same Dev. And that, "in a short period," also doesn't seem to be the case anymore either. At least not according to steam support when I contacted them. So essentially, the only your account, or the more you post, the more likely you are to catch a random permaban.

If someone is being an issue in one hub they are allowed to remove them from all of the hubs especially if they find out they have been an issue in all the hubs. Given I am aware of a large amount of history, there is no shock value to the action taken.

I also very much doubt it was just for "criticizing" a game, quite often it's what you say and how you say it, plus quite often users that frequent the game hub and other hubs tend to know an individuals behavior and could bring it to the attention of the Dev/Dev mods, especially if well-known in a negative manner in multiple hubs, so that can go poorly if an individuals conduct is less than welcome.

[Justice]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Zarineth:

Both pro- and anti- "woke" crusaders should really be perma banned from all forums already.

But what if game developers make changes to the game, especially old established game/ franchize to push political idealogy and players don't want any of that?
They are not allowed to talk and disagree?

[PootisMayo]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Justice:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Zarineth:

Both pro- and anti- "woke" crusaders should really be perma banned from all forums already.

But what if game developers make changes to the game, especially old established game/ franchize to push political idealogy and players don't want any of that?
They are not allowed to talk and disagree?

They'd be permanently silenced and forced to live with that.

[Zio]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Mad Scientist:

If someone is being an issue in one hub they are allowed to remove them from all of the hubs especially if they find out they have been an issue in all the hubs. Given I am aware of a large amount of history, there is no shock value to the action taken.

I also very much doubt it was just for "criticizing" a game, quite often it's what you say and how you say it, plus quite often users that frequent the game hub and other hubs tend to know an individuals behavior and could bring it to the attention of the Dev/Dev mods, especially if well-known in a negative manner in multiple hubs, so that can go poorly if an individuals conduct is less than welcome.

I'm glad someone said it already, I didn't think I was one of few, let alone the only one to think this, but I don't think I've earned the leeway for rhetorical questions or calling people's see-through bluffs. Like right the next poster...I think I hear Terraria calling which would have quite a different story to tell than what is being presented there (as per usual).

[Beta Ray Shill]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Doctor Zalgo:

So you don't understand the rules then.

So you can’t quote from the material to back up your accusation ‘then’, because you’re afraid it’ll exposure you to a counter-response that’ll overturn it. Gotcha.

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Sondardo:

Comparing people that you deem "woke" to parasites, and saying that they're like an infection, yeah, that's not very nice, civil, nor polite, so I can see why this person got banned.

Nice try, except he was obviously referring to the corporate wokists who are indeed parasites, unless you actually have a defence for how AAA games are being overrun by activists? Programmes that force hiring based not on talent but checkboxes? And then they create, as with Rocksteady, special ‘bias training’ for the whites of the office? Or all-out state they want whites replaced, as with Matt Hansen? Who literally said he wants to make Avowed the ‘wokist game in existence’?

Parasites. Racist parasites.

Also, that’s all you’ve got? He called a bunch of corporate vultures ‘parasites’ and you’re saying ‘it’s rude, so you shouldn’t do it’.

It's like saying 'that murderer is scum for killing the kid' and getting told 'it's not very nice to label people as scum'.

The people I'm referring to are criminals. Nothing less. They are even employing open active racism - it's called hate-speech, a crime.

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Doctor Zalgo:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Cassette:

Implying the anti-woke rightoids aren't "pro-agenda" is a hilarious take, my dude. Everyone has an agenda, you're just too brainwashed to see it.

The thought of having a coherent position, platform, plan or strategy on an issue is so alien to some people that it must obviously be bad.

Two direct insults from the pro-woke side, and only one ban on one side. Nice. Thanks for proving my point.

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย JamesF0790:

Calling people parasites is probably a rule violation.

Refer to remark two, cheers.

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย ReBoot:

No wonder they deleted it. The passage about the box art alone is enough to say he badly needs therapy, that world view of his is extremely unhealthy.

If you're that fragile about commentary on a fictional character and have to insult the poster, you're not in any position to declare who needs therapy. Also not very smart to break the rules in the same way as the other guy who got banned.

Anyway, get over yourself. Criticism is a thing that happens. This isn't Reddit.

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Cinemax:

I have a small mountain of community notes for harassing fascists like your sock... I mean homie. I collect them like little trophies.

Ah yeah. Sticks and stones.

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Got bored out of my mind reading the rest.

Are they all the same person or what?

Regardless, your pro-woke games are burning, burning bad, and my mate's only offence here was being intelligent enough to have predicted the backlash in advance.

GTA6 will be next. I lol'd when I read the IGN article today, where Rocksteady have decided to pull the next trailer - possibly indefinitely.

I wonder what that could mean?

Secrets to hide?

Anyway, POE2, a non-woke indie game, has apparently experienced so many sales that they're not sure their servers will handle the opening of the floodgates. I predict another record-breaking concurrent-player count. Just like Wukong earlier this year.

Gee, I wonder if a new trend is cropping up, and if people who like profits over pandering are taking notice?

Well, we'll see, won't we.

[ุ]

Three accounts to basically...non-stop post rhetoric in self perceived "woke" games. Three. Like, seriously.

[PootisMayo]

And this thread has run its course. I’m reporting it.

[Beta Ray Shill]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย PootisMayo:

And this thread has run its course. I’m reporting it.

I'd have to counter that with Steam - after all, yet another of my mate's predictions has come to pass. POE2 has just broken records at 357,063 current concurrent players. That's after only about an hour into the launch and literally 1000s of people who can't even get to the queue screen, it's that overloaded.

lmao - I think we need to start calling old TapewormJim TapewormNostradamus - guy is on a home run with the future-reading.

[ุ]

Dude's legit using multiple accounts to pat his own back now....yikes.

[Zio]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย PootisMayo:

And this thread has run its course. I’m reporting it.

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Leonardo Da Pinchi:

Dude's legit using multiple accounts to pat his own back now....yikes.

There is a Simpsons joke about Homer being like Nostradamus (or not that much after all) that I can't post for obvious reasons. Though I'm not surprised, I did feel bad and didn't ask for a bingo card (I was pretty late to that party and it was just one of many impulses I needed to have run through my head and not through my keyboard) but the word rogue alone was a dead giveaway, the absolute latest where I should have set a timer. There's also a big German word that is very VERY passionate and eager to leave, it actually physically hurts me I can't be just as eager to please it (I had a headache earlier and a fever-like symptoms, nothing serious, but enforcing inhibitions is never fun)

[Crazy Tiger]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย d@v3:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Crazy Tiger:

Fully agreed. Both sides are annoying.

fence sitters are even more annoying

Why, because we don't want to jump your ridiculous bandwagons?

[Crazy Tiger]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Beta Ray Shill:

Anyway, get over yourself. Criticism is a thing that happens.

Oh the irony...

[Beta Ray Shill]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Crazy Tiger:

Oh the irony...

Unfortunately a ban isn't called criticism, so you'd have a hard old time spinning this as irony.

Also, I've been called every name under the sun by the pro-wokes here (no bans, of course) and what did I say?

'Sticks and stones'.

It means I don't care.

Cheers.

[Crazy Tiger]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Beta Ray Shill:

Unfortunately a ban isn't called criticism

Depends on who you ask, I guess.

[Beta Ray Shill]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Mellow:

Your Anime love doll?

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย The Squire of Gothos:

I was gonna go with 'his hands' but that one works too.

Some more examples of the pro-wokes breaking the rules with open insults and bait, while I must not respond in the same language or we all know what happens.

Unfortunately, beyond being an obvious abuse of moderation powers, it establishes a culture of these people being allowed to insult others with impunity. So they keep doing it because they know there's no repercussion until 'the bad man' loses his temper and responds in kind.

For Steam, the formula is simple here - they'll be allowed to make up to 10 insults in succession before they must move to 'phase 2', where they'll ban the people obviously breaking the rules. But then will zone in on one random sentence that the anti-woke made that can be propped up as 'rude'.

Either way, I once again must congratulate you lot on doing such a superb job of proving the subject of this thread. Literally couldn't have done it better myself.

Ta.