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Low Standards 2024 年 12 月 1 日 上午 7:21
Glad Steam was forced to stop lying
And now has to say up-front that games are leased not owned. I think this is good for the industry and a first step toward this digital nightmare.
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The nameless Gamer 2024 年 12 月 1 日 上午 7:38 
引用自 Low Standards
引用自 The nameless Gamer

Licenses to use a piece of software were always sold. Only now, they aren't tangible. Nothing else changed.

So that makes it right? Also the physical copy prevented anyone from taking what you own away. The license was more for copying than owning.

Why would anyone take my non-tangible licenses to begin with? Since 2011, I haven't lost ONE of them. And that's with some of them no longer being available for purchase. Also, physical copies don't last forever. My copy of Command & Conquer: The first decade is no longer usable. But all my digitally purchased games work as if bought day 1. The pool of games I can pick from is immeasurably larger than it was while it was physical discs only. I don't live in a 1st world country where every game you can imagine was sold in stores. I never would have gotten a chance to play over 99% of my library if it wasn't for digital distribution. So MY situation has actually improved vastly.
Low Standards 2024 年 12 月 1 日 上午 7:39 
引用自 Thermal Lance
引用自 Low Standards

A license to something you don't own nor have the right to play or preserve now and any time in the future. Great purchase!
As long as Steam stays afloat. Which seems to be the case for the forseeable future. I have nothing to be afraid of.

But, I sure won't start to whine 19 years down the line when I knew day 1 what I was purchasing on the platform.

That would just be moronic.

Almost as moronic as buying something you don't own and even the government agrees is manipulative. Or is it moronic to put self-interest first?
Low Standards 2024 年 12 月 1 日 上午 7:41 
引用自 The nameless Gamer
引用自 Low Standards

So that makes it right? Also the physical copy prevented anyone from taking what you own away. The license was more for copying than owning.

Why would anyone take my non-tangible licenses to begin with? Since 2011, I haven't lost ONE of them. And that's with some of them no longer being available for purchase. Also, physical copies don't last forever. My copy of Command & Conquer: The first decade is no longer usable. But all my digitally purchased games work as if bought day 1. The pool of games I can pick from is immeasurably larger than it was while it was physical discs only. I don't live in a 1st world country where every game you can imagine was sold in stores. I never would have gotten a chance to play over 99% of my library if it wasn't for digital distribution. So MY situation has actually improved vastly.

Again, I am glad you did. Losing self-interest is a big price to pay though and things can go south very quickly.
Thermal Lance 2024 年 12 月 1 日 上午 7:41 
引用自 Low Standards
引用自 Thermal Lance
As long as Steam stays afloat. Which seems to be the case for the forseeable future. I have nothing to be afraid of.

But, I sure won't start to whine 19 years down the line when I knew day 1 what I was purchasing on the platform.

That would just be moronic.

Almost as moronic as buying something you don't own and even the government agrees is manipulative. Or is it moronic to put self-interest first?
Manipulative?

I can read. And I did.

No manipulation involved.

You guys just sign contracts blindfolded then act like everybody else is the problem.
The nameless Gamer 2024 年 12 月 1 日 上午 7:44 
引用自 Low Standards
引用自 The nameless Gamer

Why would anyone take my non-tangible licenses to begin with? Since 2011, I haven't lost ONE of them. And that's with some of them no longer being available for purchase. Also, physical copies don't last forever. My copy of Command & Conquer: The first decade is no longer usable. But all my digitally purchased games work as if bought day 1. The pool of games I can pick from is immeasurably larger than it was while it was physical discs only. I don't live in a 1st world country where every game you can imagine was sold in stores. I never would have gotten a chance to play over 99% of my library if it wasn't for digital distribution. So MY situation has actually improved vastly.

Again, I am glad you did. Losing self-interest is a big price to pay though and things can go south very quickly.

There are far worse things that can happen than losing a couple hundred game licenses. Gaming is a very affordable hobby, even if you live on the Balkan peninsula, a pretty poor area of Europe. As someone who lives in that dump of a region, I know first-hand that there are a lot worse things than losing your video games.
Low Standards 2024 年 12 月 1 日 上午 7:46 
引用自 Thermal Lance
引用自 Low Standards

Almost as moronic as buying something you don't own and even the government agrees is manipulative. Or is it moronic to put self-interest first?
Manipulative?

I can read. And I did.

No manipulation involved.

You guys just sign contracts blindfolded then act like everybody else is the problem.

Not manipulative... very very manipulative. Even now the message is the bare minimum of what they had to do.
Low Standards 2024 年 12 月 1 日 上午 7:48 
引用自 The nameless Gamer
引用自 Low Standards

Again, I am glad you did. Losing self-interest is a big price to pay though and things can go south very quickly.

There are far worse things that can happen than losing a couple hundred game licenses. Gaming is a very affordable hobby, even if you live on the Balkan peninsula, a pretty poor area of Europe. As someone who lives in that dump of a region, I know first-hand that there are a lot worse things than losing your video games.

I am hoping this post was a joke because it sounds senseless.
Thermal Lance 2024 年 12 月 1 日 上午 7:49 
引用自 Low Standards
引用自 Thermal Lance
Manipulative?

I can read. And I did.

No manipulation involved.

You guys just sign contracts blindfolded then act like everybody else is the problem.

Not manipulative... very very manipulative. Even now the message is the bare minimum of what they had to do.
As I said, you sign contracts blindfolded. If anything, you manipulated yourself.
Low Standards 2024 年 12 月 1 日 上午 7:50 
引用自 Thermal Lance
引用自 Low Standards

Not manipulative... very very manipulative. Even now the message is the bare minimum of what they had to do.
As I said, you sign contracts blindfolded. If anything, you manipulated yourself.

Gladly the government didn't agree with you. Have a great day.
The nameless Gamer 2024 年 12 月 1 日 上午 7:50 
引用自 Low Standards
引用自 The nameless Gamer

There are far worse things that can happen than losing a couple hundred game licenses. Gaming is a very affordable hobby, even if you live on the Balkan peninsula, a pretty poor area of Europe. As someone who lives in that dump of a region, I know first-hand that there are a lot worse things than losing your video games.

I am hoping this post was a joke because it sounds senseless.

Not a joke. I am just not emotionally attached to possessions.
Thermal Lance 2024 年 12 月 1 日 上午 7:52 
引用自 Low Standards
引用自 Thermal Lance
As I said, you sign contracts blindfolded. If anything, you manipulated yourself.

Gladly the government didn't agree with you. Have a great day.
The government basically did this.

-You buy a pack of peanuts with a disclaimer that peanuts are inside.

This is the level of government involvement you got. Basically, an attempt to protect foolish people from themselves.
Low Standards 2024 年 12 月 1 日 上午 7:52 
引用自 The nameless Gamer
引用自 Low Standards

I am hoping this post was a joke because it sounds senseless.

Not a joke. I am just not emotionally attached to possessions.

LOL! You have a good day too.
wesnef 2024 年 12 月 1 日 上午 8:01 
引用自 Low Standards
And now has to say up-front that games are leased not owned. I think this is good for the industry and a first step toward this digital nightmare.

Say you don't know what "lease" means without saying you don't know what lease means.


edit: and if I felt like it, I could type in the Software License Agreement from the back of my old 90s/00s manuals for Marathon Infinity (Bungie) and Diablo 2. Software licenses are nothing new.
最后由 wesnef 编辑于; 2024 年 12 月 1 日 上午 8:04
Boblin the Goblin 2024 年 12 月 1 日 上午 8:23 
What's even funnier is that warning essentially just says "Hey, read the SSA."

Literally nothing changed.
NuLife 2024 年 12 月 1 日 上午 9:23 
引用自 Low Standards
引用自 Thermal Lance
I bought licenses hotshot.

A license to something you don't own nor have the right to play or preserve now and any time in the future. Great purchase!
dont u realise its been like this since the first console came out....
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