Playstation accounts required on Steam

[Primal]

Bellualr News just confirmed the leaks that Sony/Playstation is in talks with Fromsoft to take a majority shareholder position. The concern here is being required to have yet another paid account to play games you want. Pay for the: home you play in, the electricity, the internet, the PC/handheld/console, the game you want, now two of the largest publishers in the world want a monthly fee for being "allowed" to use the game license each month. Sony backed off of requiring accounts to play Helldivers 2 after a backlash but the countries that don't have access to PS accounts still aren't able to access the game for purchase or play. "We aren't planning to require a paid account." Sure. This is something we have seen too many times by publishers. Bethesda does something awful, EA or Ubisoft and they back down...for a while and after the atmosphere has re-tuned itself they do it slowly.

Sony is clearly after a larger portion of the game market, which is primed for it with the distressed state of AAA developers, particularly in the West, however; there are simply too many games to play and too many new developers making fun and business ethical options. Sony, you will never get another dollar from me, nor will the developers you purchase. Between you and Microsoft advances on the market, you're obviously planning to be worse than you have been up to this point in time.

Consumers have rightly stood up against bad publishers in recent years, and it's your turn to face real challenges in response to your practices. No to Playstation accounts, no to Microsoft accounts. No to any more paid accounts for video games. No way, get bent. For anyone who says they aren't planning to require accounts, you must be....

[lailaamell]

Originally posted by Primal:

Bellualr News just confirmed the leaks that Sony/Playstation is in talks with Fromsoft to take a majority shareholder position. The concern here is being required to have yet another paid account to play games you want. Pay for the: home you play in, the electricity, the internet, the PC/handheld/console, the game you want, now two of the largest publishers in the world want a monthly fee for being "allowed" to use the game license each month. Sony backed off of requiring accounts to play Helldivers 2 after a backlash but the countries that don't have access to PS accounts still aren't able to access the game for purchase or play. "We aren't planning to require a paid account." Sure. This is something we have seen too many times by publishers. Bethesda does something awful, EA or Ubisoft and they back down...for a while and after the atmosphere has re-tuned itself they do it slowly.

Sony is clearly after a larger portion of the game market, which is primed for it with the distressed state of AAA developers, particularly in the West, however; there are simply too many games to play and too many new developers making fun and business ethical options. Sony, you will never get another dollar from me, nor will the developers you purchase. Between you and Microsoft advances on the market, you're obviously planning to be worse than you have been up to this point in time.

Consumers have rightly stood up against bad publishers in recent years, and it's your turn to face real challenges in response to your practices. No to Playstation accounts, no to Microsoft accounts. No to any more paid accounts for video games. No way, get bent. For anyone who says they aren't planning to require accounts, you must be....

their property their rules if they want to have a ps+ on pc its their choice helldivers is still blocked in countries without psn support so they didnt win anything

[RedLightning]

Sony, with their past tactics with rootkits on cd's is the last I would trust with a launcher, let alone a video game from.

I refuse to buy from Sony ... added to a long growing list.

[Kargor]

Originally posted by Primal:

The concern here is being required to have yet another paid account to play games you want.

The court ruling would be interesting, if they retroactively added another payment to a game that was already purchased.

[Chika Ogiue]

Originally posted by Primal:

"We aren't planning to require a paid account." Sure. This is something we have seen too many times by publishers. Bethesda does something awful, EA or Ubisoft and they back down...for a while and after the atmosphere has re-tuned itself they do it slowly.

I think you might be confused. PlayStation accounts, Ubisoft accounts, EA accounts, Microsoft/Xbox accounts are all free. You do not pay a monthly fee for them. These companies offer additional subscription services that you can optionally pay for, but the base account -- the account required by some of these publishers to launch their games -- are free. You only pay for the game you purchased.

So no, if and it's a very big if still, if Sony bought up major shares in From Soft, the self-published (in Japan), Bandai Namco published (outside Japan) games are not suddenly going to require a PlayStation account. And you won't be suddenly asked to subscribe to a PS+ monthly subscription. Stop listening to fearmongering YouTubers.

[Electric Cupcake]

Sony lost all relevance when they castrated the PS3.

All consoles are worthless now.

[Thiesen]

VOTE WITH YOUR WALLET!!!

[wesnef]

Pretty sure "Sony account" doesn't requite payment.

Now, if they said that PS+ was required, that would be a different thing.

[Ben Lubar]

Originally posted by Chika Ogiue:

I think you might be confused. PlayStation accounts, [...] are all free.

Originally posted by wesnef:

Pretty sure "Sony account" doesn't requite payment.

In some countries, they are. In others, like Ukraine (heard about this on this very forum and had a friend from there confirm it for me) you can only make a PlayStation account if you purchase a console.

[Chika Ogiue]

Originally posted by Ben Lubar:

In some countries, they are. In others, like Ukraine (heard about this on this very forum and had a friend from there confirm it for me) you can only make a PlayStation account if you purchase a console.

The account itself is free, a country requiring you to purchase a console to make that account is something the users should be complaining to their government about.

[Ben Lubar]

Originally posted by Chika Ogiue:

Originally posted by Ben Lubar:

In some countries, they are. In others, like Ukraine (heard about this on this very forum and had a friend from there confirm it for me) you can only make a PlayStation account if you purchase a console.

The account itself is free, a country requiring you to purchase a console to make that account is something the users should be complaining to their government about.

Somehow I don't think the Ukrainian government controls Sony's website and support staff.

[Chompman]

Originally posted by Ben Lubar:

Originally posted by Chika Ogiue:

The account itself is free, a country requiring you to purchase a console to make that account is something the users should be complaining to their government about.

Somehow I don't think the Ukrainian government controls Sony's website and support staff.

There are many reasons why this happens in certain regions as Sony is not set up there as usually regulations in those regions prevents this.

This is on those regions for whatever reason usually as either they would not be profitable to follow whatever demands the countries require or offer certain protection over their software as a lot of times they don't have laws in place for copyright protection to keep their software safe.

This has been talked about a lot in the game forums such as helldivers 2 when the psn account requirement was reactivated as it was always listed from day one of the game going live but was disabled for a time because of technical issues when it first launched.

[Dear Departed]

Originally posted by Chompman:

Originally posted by Ben Lubar:

Somehow I don't think the Ukrainian government controls Sony's website and support staff.

There are many reasons why this happens in certain regions as Sony is not set up there as usually regulations in those regions prevents this.

This is on those regions for whatever reason usually as either they would not be profitable to follow whatever demands the countries require or offer certain protection over their software as a lot of times they don't have laws in place for copyright protection to keep their software safe.

This has been talked about a lot in the game forums such as helldivers 2 when the psn account requirement was reactivated as it was always listed from day one of the game going live but was disabled for a time because of technical issues when it first launched.

Where did you even hear this from? Because it sounds like you just made this up, most of what you said isn't true at all.

PSN is not available in my country (Serbia) but there are no regulations preventing Sony from allowing you to create an account for it. They even still sell their consoles and games here, and their website is even translated to Serbian. But there's no option to select Serbia when creating an account, and I can't buy any psn required games on Steam.

The same also happens in some other European countries, including most of the Balkans as well as the Baltic countries. It has nothing to do with regulations.

[Chompman]

Originally posted by Dear Departed:

Originally posted by Chompman:

There are many reasons why this happens in certain regions as Sony is not set up there as usually regulations in those regions prevents this.

This is on those regions for whatever reason usually as either they would not be profitable to follow whatever demands the countries require or offer certain protection over their software as a lot of times they don't have laws in place for copyright protection to keep their software safe.

This has been talked about a lot in the game forums such as helldivers 2 when the psn account requirement was reactivated as it was always listed from day one of the game going live but was disabled for a time because of technical issues when it first launched.

Where did you even hear this from? Because it sounds like you just made this up, most of what you said isn't true at all.

PSN is not available in my country (Serbia) but there are no regulations preventing Sony from allowing you to create an account for it. They even still sell their consoles and games here, and their website is even translated to Serbian. But there's no option to select Serbia when creating an account, and I can't buy any psn required games on Steam.

The same also happens in some other European countries, including most of the Balkans as well as the Baltic countries. It has nothing to do with regulations.

It could be any number of reasons as you would have to look it up for your region but a lot of what I posted is what has been posted for awhile during the helldivers 2 psn account issues awhile ago.

[Ben Lubar]

Originally posted by Chompman:

Originally posted by Dear Departed:

Where did you even hear this from? Because it sounds like you just made this up, most of what you said isn't true at all.

PSN is not available in my country (Serbia) but there are no regulations preventing Sony from allowing you to create an account for it. They even still sell their consoles and games here, and their website is even translated to Serbian. But there's no option to select Serbia when creating an account, and I can't buy any psn required games on Steam.

The same also happens in some other European countries, including most of the Balkans as well as the Baltic countries. It has nothing to do with regulations.

It could be any number of reasons as you would have to look it up for your region but a lot of what I posted is what has been posted for awhile during the helldivers 2 psn account issues awhile ago.

Occam's Razor: If we know that people in a lot of different countries are unable to make PSN accounts for free but this does not affect any other game publisher, developer, or even console, is it more likely that the common denominator is a decision Sony made or a decision that many different countries' governments made?

[Chika Ogiue]

Originally posted by Ben Lubar:

Somehow I don't think the Ukrainian government controls Sony's website and support staff.

But they obviously set whatever regulation has forced Sony to make that requirement. If it were of Sony's own volition, they'd be forcing it worldwide. Given that this only affects a limited number of regions, the cause is obviously within the laws of that region. Either by being the laws that require it or the laws that don't forbid such a requirement. Either way, the customers in those regions wanting change need to take it up with their government.