Insane Bioware censorship (they have completely lost their marbles)

[TapewormJim (TJ)]

I posted the below on the Veilguard forums, and literally one minute later received a permanent ban. It's Bioware's devs/mods, for sure - they have permanently banned all of Asmongold's reddit followers as well apparently, because they are literally insane - gaga mental.

Posting it here as you can clearly see no Steam rules whatsoever were broken.

I'm not surprised they have such thin skin, however - nor am I surprised they are so triggered by the mere mention of Trump. Steam needs to stop giving activists/crazies the reigns on moderating the forums. People this unhinged and maladjusted to society and humour should not be allowed to cyber-shoot paying customers on the platform.

I've heard the 'their house, their rules' shtick before btw, so spare me that one, yeah? Because 'my keyboard, my post'. You know what I mean?

---

Apparently Avowed will release in Feb, only a few months away. Calling it now that that'll be the next Failguard. I guarantee it. It has the same toony, plastic look, with purple everywhere the eye can see. Is it a contrivance of theirs, or is it just some psychological thing to which they gravitate, unknowingly?

IMO, Veilguard is on the way out anyway judging by the declining CP stats, but it's going be a slow, dull death. I'm more interested in the aftermath - what happens to Bioware after all of this? It'll probably take another month before the sorry ending plays out.

I'm delighted Trump won btw - if he's serious about overhauling DEI agendas, as has been stated elsewhere, there's a mild possibility he might also play a part in dismantling what has happened within the industry.

[Soren]

Doctor Zalgo původně napsal:

revenant_k původně napsal:

I expect them to try to get more sales. But their actions speaks otherwise.

They've obviously decided letting people post anti woke spam hurts their profits more than not doing that. It's just capitalism baby.

It's also capitalism that each steam sub-forum has their own moderators and own way of running things. The user end experience would probably benefit more from one moderation team consistently enforcing one set of rules. But that would cost Valve more money, so they encourage developers and publishers to have their own moderators for their sub-forums and they get to have their own additional rules if they want them in return.

Like, I had a friend who got banned from the Dolphin steam sub-forum (back when it existed). The developers who work on the Dolphin gamecube emulator banned him. They didn't like him saying Nintendo is probably going to try and take Dolphin down on Steam even if they aren't legally or morally in the right. He got banned for literally predicting Nintendo was going to do what they always do. Valve allows that because it's the cheapest way to run their forums. Capitalism.

[sick duck]

Soren původně napsal:

Doctor Zalgo původně napsal:

They've obviously decided letting people post anti woke spam hurts their profits more than not doing that. It's just capitalism baby.

It's also capitalism that each steam sub-forum has their own moderators and own way of running things. The user end experience would probably benefit more from one moderation team consistently enforcing one set of rules. But that would cost Valve more money, so they encourage developers and publishers to have their own moderators for their sub-forums and they get to have their own additional rules if they want them in return.

Like, I had a friend who got banned from the Dolphin steam sub-forum (back when it existed). The developers who work on the Dolphin gamecube emulator banned him. They didn't like him saying Nintendo is probably going to try and take Dolphin down on Steam even if they aren't legally or morally in the right. He got banned for literally predicting Nintendo was going to do what they always do. Valve allows that because it's the cheapest way to run their forums. Capitalism.

You know what moderators like the ones on bioware veilguard and the liberal social media remind me of? The people who were republican during my childhood doomsaying about violence in video games, the sideboob nudity of mass effect and men wearing ear rings. What is it about political tribalism that rots peoples brains?

[Doctor Zalgo]

Soren původně napsal:

Doctor Zalgo původně napsal:

They've obviously decided letting people post anti woke spam hurts their profits more than not doing that. It's just capitalism baby.

It's also capitalism that each steam sub-forum has their own moderators and own way of running things. The user end experience would probably benefit more from one moderation team consistently enforcing one set of rules. But that would cost Valve more money, so they encourage developers and publishers to have their own moderators for their sub-forums and they get to have their own additional rules if they want them in return.

Like, I had a friend who got banned from the Dolphin steam sub-forum (back when it existed). The developers who work on the Dolphin gamecube emulator banned him. They didn't like him saying Nintendo is probably going to try and take Dolphin down on Steam even if they aren't legally or morally in the right. He got banned for literally predicting Nintendo was going to do what they always do. Valve allows that because it's the cheapest way to run their forums. Capitalism.

That's actually one of the 'secret flaws' of capitalism - it's totally acceptable for a product flaw or inefficiency to cost people more or burn more resources as long as you're not the one paying for it or it makes you more in the long run. E.g. planned obsolescence.

[Doctor Zalgo]

sick duck původně napsal:

Soren původně napsal:

It's also capitalism that each steam sub-forum has their own moderators and own way of running things. The user end experience would probably benefit more from one moderation team consistently enforcing one set of rules. But that would cost Valve more money, so they encourage developers and publishers to have their own moderators for their sub-forums and they get to have their own additional rules if they want them in return.

Like, I had a friend who got banned from the Dolphin steam sub-forum (back when it existed). The developers who work on the Dolphin gamecube emulator banned him. They didn't like him saying Nintendo is probably going to try and take Dolphin down on Steam even if they aren't legally or morally in the right. He got banned for literally predicting Nintendo was going to do what they always do. Valve allows that because it's the cheapest way to run their forums. Capitalism.

You know what moderators like the ones on bioware veilguard and the liberal social media remind me of? The people who were republican during my childhood doomsaying about violence in video games, the sideboob nudity of mass effect and men wearing ear rings. What is it about political tribalism that rots peoples brains?

*points at a thing* "that's just like politics!"

Now let me tell you how the problem is making everything about politics.

[veracsthane]

TapewormJim (TJ) původně napsal:

I posted the below on the Veilguard forums, and literally one minute later received a permanent ban. It's Bioware's devs/mods, for sure - they have permanently banned all of Asmongold's reddit followers as well apparently, because they are literally insane - gaga mental.

Posting it here as you can clearly see no Steam rules whatsoever were broken.

I'm not surprised they have such thin skin, however - nor am I surprised they are so triggered by the mere mention of Trump. Steam needs to stop giving activists/crazies the reigns on moderating the forums. People this unhinged and maladjusted to society and humour should not be allowed to cyber-shoot paying customers on the platform.

I've heard the 'their house, their rules' shtick before btw, so spare me that one, yeah? Because 'my keyboard, my post'. You know what I mean?

---

Apparently Avowed will release in Feb, only a few months away. Calling it now that that'll be the next Failguard. I guarantee it. It has the same toony, plastic look, with purple everywhere the eye can see. Is it a contrivance of theirs, or is it just some psychological thing to which they gravitate, unknowingly?

IMO, Veilguard is on the way out anyway judging by the declining CP stats, but it's going be a slow, dull death. I'm more interested in the aftermath - what happens to Bioware after all of this? It'll probably take another month before the sorry ending plays out.

I'm delighted Trump won btw - if he's serious about overhauling DEI agendas, as has been stated elsewhere, there's a mild possibility he might also play a part in dismantling what has happened within the industry.

give up steam is ♥♥♥♥ and the community is worse then ♥♥♥♥ because steam enables them. your making a post like this on a platform that can be described as "woke always online gamestop" making all of the problems highly predictable.

just give up. words dont work.

[Tito Shivan]

revenant_k původně napsal:

I was not aware that using anti-customer practice to massage your ego is part of capitalistic strategy.

"Sir, you're making a scene and annoying the customers, I'm going to ask security to escort you out of the premises"

[Leonardo Da Pinchi]

veracsthane původně napsal:

give up steam is ♥♥♥♥ and the community is worse

Then...why are you here exactly?

[Realigo Actual]

Actually OP has a point.

All is not well at EA and or BioWare

[Soren]

Realigo Actual původně napsal:

Actually OP has a point.

All is not well at EA and or BioWare

People have been saying that for a while about EA.

As for Bioware, they'll be killed like many that were aqquired before them because that's what these big unicron-esk companies do. Gobble up smaller companies. Drive them into the ground with predatory get rich quick tactics. But still have all their assets and IP once they gut and fire the entire company so they lose almost no monetary value from destroying the company. Only losing the workers who were already leaving in droves because the predatory get rich quick tactics make gamers hate the developers.

[revenant_k]

Tito Shivan původně napsal:

"Sir, you're making a scene and annoying the customers, I'm going to ask security to escort you out of the premises"

Sir, our products only aimed to serve 1% of the user base. Oh!!? Sry, it's time to file for bankruptcy. Bye.

[Doctor Zalgo]

Realigo Actual původně napsal:

Actually OP has a point.

All is not well at EA and or BioWare

Sure, but that's just because corporate culture punishs risk takers and reward those who mindlessly greenlight 'another live service game but this time with disney characters'.

You could have funded 500 3 person indie dev teams for a year to churn out proof of concepts for the same money it cost to develop Starfield (for example).

[sick duck]

Doctor Zalgo původně napsal:

Realigo Actual původně napsal:

Actually OP has a point.

All is not well at EA and or BioWare

Sure, but that's just because corporate culture punishs risk takers and reward those who mindlessly greenlight 'another live service game but this time with disney characters'.

You could have funded 500 3 person indie dev teams for a year to churn out proof of concepts for the same money it cost to develop Starfield (for example).

How many indie dev teams are enough? I am sure there are 500 of those teams at a minimum developing just for steam, and the consoles and mobiles have indies of their own.

[Lithurge]

revenant_k původně napsal:

Tito Shivan původně napsal:

"Sir, you're making a scene and annoying the customers, I'm going to ask security to escort you out of the premises"

Sir, our products only aimed to serve 1% of the user base. Oh!!? Sry, it's time to file for bankruptcy. Bye.

98% of customers shrug shoulders and keep shopping because they really don't care that much - carry on making a profit.

[Zarineth]

revenant_k původně napsal:

Tito Shivan původně napsal:

"Sir, you're making a scene and annoying the customers, I'm going to ask security to escort you out of the premises"

Sir, our products only aimed to serve 1% of the user base. Oh!!? Sry, it's time to file for bankruptcy. Bye.

Considering, that the eraged side is another 1% of the user base, they don't lose much.

[Doctor Zalgo]

sick duck původně napsal:

Doctor Zalgo původně napsal:

Sure, but that's just because corporate culture punishs risk takers and reward those who mindlessly greenlight 'another live service game but this time with disney characters'.

You could have funded 500 3 person indie dev teams for a year to churn out proof of concepts for the same money it cost to develop Starfield (for example).

How many indie dev teams are enough? I am sure there are 500 of those teams at a minimum developing just for steam, and the consoles and mobiles have indies of their own.

Sure, but those 500 teams would have served Bethesda much better than starfield did. They'd have enough new IP to last them a decade or more.