Insane Bioware censorship (they have completely lost their marbles)

[TapewormJim (TJ)]

I posted the below on the Veilguard forums, and literally one minute later received a permanent ban. It's Bioware's devs/mods, for sure - they have permanently banned all of Asmongold's reddit followers as well apparently, because they are literally insane - gaga mental.

Posting it here as you can clearly see no Steam rules whatsoever were broken.

I'm not surprised they have such thin skin, however - nor am I surprised they are so triggered by the mere mention of Trump. Steam needs to stop giving activists/crazies the reigns on moderating the forums. People this unhinged and maladjusted to society and humour should not be allowed to cyber-shoot paying customers on the platform.

I've heard the 'their house, their rules' shtick before btw, so spare me that one, yeah? Because 'my keyboard, my post'. You know what I mean?

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Apparently Avowed will release in Feb, only a few months away. Calling it now that that'll be the next Failguard. I guarantee it. It has the same toony, plastic look, with purple everywhere the eye can see. Is it a contrivance of theirs, or is it just some psychological thing to which they gravitate, unknowingly?

IMO, Veilguard is on the way out anyway judging by the declining CP stats, but it's going be a slow, dull death. I'm more interested in the aftermath - what happens to Bioware after all of this? It'll probably take another month before the sorry ending plays out.

I'm delighted Trump won btw - if he's serious about overhauling DEI agendas, as has been stated elsewhere, there's a mild possibility he might also play a part in dismantling what has happened within the industry.

[AustrAlien2010]

Nguyên văn bởi cioran:

Nguyên văn bởi Ben Lubar:

Could you describe to me what that is and why you think it's objectionable?

Because "gay people exist" isn't exactly a controversial statement given that it's been true for longer than words have existed.

Again, everyone can "exist" as long as they are well behaved, keep their sexuality and fantasies to themselves and be civil about it.

Force feeding ideologies, whatever they are, into anything mass media these days isn't neither of the above and this is where me and others draw the line.

If you are actually against the game being made, then they banned you fairly. Because obviously they can make that.

You're permitted to create such artworks. You can create the artwork that you want to create, you can write the book you want to write, you can paint a painting that you want to paint, you can make music you want to make, or draw a drawing that you want to draw, or wear the clothing that you want to wear, etcetera. Without someone telling you that you cannot do that.
Simply because you live in free world where you can do that.

[cioran]

Nguyên văn bởi AustrAlien2010:

If you are actually against the game being made, then they banned you fairly. Because obviously they can make that. You're permitted to create such artworks. You can create the artwork that you want to create, you can write the book you want to write, you can paint a painting that you want to paint, you can make music you want to make, etcetera. Without someone telling you that you cannot do that.

I never said I am against the game being made, of course anyone can come up with whatever they like.

My point was that I really looked forward to another DA iteration to enjoy but I was met with more or less a political statement, in this case LGBTQ propaganda, instead of a game.

This is why I was so let down and started criticizing the game!

Again, they can make whatever games, movies, songs etc they like but as long as I used to have interest/enjoyed some of the studios/publishers projects and they now turn out to be just propaganda and pushing agendas, I will openly criticize them for it and state my point.

[Crazy Tiger]

You may see it as "propaganda", but it's still just a game. At least for people who don't care much about these culture wars.

[Leonardo Da Pinchi]

Nguyên văn bởi Crazy Tiger:

You may see it as "propaganda", but it's still just a game. At least for people who don't care much about these culture wars.

Which is a majority of gamers, most folk don't care about the culture war BS. One way or the other.

[cioran]

Nguyên văn bởi Leonardo Da Pinchi:

Which is a majority of gamers, most folk don't care about the culture war BS. One way or the other.

Strongly disagree, you must have seen what many of the threads/posts (most of them have been deleted, especially the "negative" ones) in the forums are talking about, what the Steam negative reviews talk about, what the negative "critics" mainly talk about and finally what the metacritc user scores talk about.

If you like to think "the majority of gamers" don't care about that, that's just your take on it.

[Ben Lubar]

Nguyên văn bởi cioran:

Nguyên văn bởi Leonardo Da Pinchi:

Which is a majority of gamers, most folk don't care about the culture war BS. One way or the other.

Strongly disagree, you must have seen what many of the threads/posts (most of them have been deleted, especially the "negative" ones) in the forums are talking about, what the Steam negative reviews talk about, what the negative "critics" mainly talk about and finally what the metacritc user scores talk about.

If you like to think "the majority of gamers" don't care about that, that's just your take on it.

You still haven't explained what objectionable content is in the game. Do you expect me to buy it and play it myself?

[Crazy Tiger]

Nguyên văn bởi cioran:

Nguyên văn bởi Leonardo Da Pinchi:

Which is a majority of gamers, most folk don't care about the culture war BS. One way or the other.

Strongly disagree, you must have seen what many of the threads/posts (most of them have been deleted, especially the "negative" ones) in the forums are talking about, what the Steam negative reviews talk about, what the negative "critics" mainly talk about and finally what the metacritc user scores talk about.

If you like to think "the majority of gamers" don't care about that, that's just your take on it.

It's a minority of users/gamers that even use forums and the like. So yes, it's a minority.

The vast majority of gamers simply plays their games happily without ever giving a fuss about the things that get discussed on these forums. Same with reviews, it's merely a subset.

Reviews on Steam aren't really to be taken serious much, but Metacritic is a laughing stock. People can't possibly take a review platform that doesn't even check if someone has the game serious.

[Leonardo Da Pinchi]

Nguyên văn bởi cioran:

Nguyên văn bởi Leonardo Da Pinchi:

Which is a majority of gamers, most folk don't care about the culture war BS. One way or the other.

Strongly disagree, you must have seen what many of the threads/posts (most of them have been deleted, especially the "negative" ones) in the forums are talking about, what the Steam negative reviews talk about, what the negative "critics" mainly talk about and finally what the metacritc user scores talk about.

If you like to think "the majority of gamers" don't care about that, that's just your take on it.

The largest "anti-woke" group on the platform's entire memberlist doesn't even make up 1% of the daily online users. By comparison a group dedicated to cartoon porn has over 7x that, meaning cartoon porn is more popular than the moral crusade.

I hate to break it to you, the "anti-woke" are just a very small, very vocal minority. Basically the opposite side of the same coin that the "woke" fringe are on.

[Ben Lubar]

Nguyên văn bởi Crazy Tiger:

but Metacritic is a laughing stock

The one negative review Alien Swarm: Reactive Drop has on there is worth reading if you need a laugh.

[Crazy Tiger]

Nguyên văn bởi Ben Lubar:

Nguyên văn bởi Crazy Tiger:

but Metacritic is a laughing stock

The one negative review Alien Swarm: Reactive Drop has on there is worth reading if you need a laugh.

I just did. I assume you printed and framed it.

[cioran]

Nguyên văn bởi Ben Lubar:

You still haven't explained what objectionable content is in the game.

I am not here to explain you anything, search my posts on the forums if you would like to know more.

Nguyên văn bởi Ben Lubar:

Do you expect me to buy it and play it myself?

Yes please!

[Leonardo Da Pinchi]

Fact of the matter is, if the majority of gamers actually cared about the whole anti-woke conquest of "getting rid of the LGBT+ agenda". Games perceived TO be woke, such as BG3 or Hogwarts Legacy (hoo boy, y'all were throwing a fit in those subs for a month) wouldn't have sold well.

[cioran]

Nguyên văn bởi Leonardo Da Pinchi:

Fact of the matter is, if the majority of gamers actually cared about the whole anti-woke conquest of "getting rid of the LGBT+ agenda". Games perceived TO be woke, such as BG3 or Hogwarts Legacy (hoo boy, y'all were throwing a fit in those subs for a month) wouldn't have sold well.

I find it amusing that you haven't said anything about DA:V sales in this context, because you know they are not promising at all.

[Paratech2008]

Nguyên văn bởi Crazy Tiger:

Nguyên văn bởi cioran:

Strongly disagree, you must have seen what many of the threads/posts (most of them have been deleted, especially the "negative" ones) in the forums are talking about, what the Steam negative reviews talk about, what the negative "critics" mainly talk about and finally what the metacritc user scores talk about.

If you like to think "the majority of gamers" don't care about that, that's just your take on it.

It's a minority of users/gamers that even use forums and the like. So yes, it's a minority.

The vast majority of gamers simply plays their games happily without ever giving a fuss about the things that get discussed on these forums. Same with reviews, it's merely a subset.

Reviews on Steam aren't really to be taken serious much, but Metacritic is a laughing stock. People can't possibly take a review platform that doesn't even check if someone has the game serious.

I think it's more like many people don'y buy the game(s) but feel no need to post in the game((s) forums announcing it.

I didn't do that with Life is Strange True colors. I just didn't buy the choice bundle.

I only mention it as I believe others do that as well.

Doing so in the forum doesn't accomplish anything useful.

People can buy and support stuff I don't like just as I can buy games others don't like.

[Leonardo Da Pinchi]

Nguyên văn bởi cioran:

Nguyên văn bởi Leonardo Da Pinchi:

Fact of the matter is, if the majority of gamers actually cared about the whole anti-woke conquest of "getting rid of the LGBT+ agenda". Games perceived TO be woke, such as BG3 or Hogwarts Legacy (hoo boy, y'all were throwing a fit in those subs for a month) wouldn't have sold well.

I find it amusing that you haven't said anything about DA:V sales in this context, because you know they are not promising at all.

Because we don't have sales figures, and concurrent players isn't a definitive indication of global sales.