Early Access Is Ruining PC Gaming and Steam.

[Morisato]

So i've been thinking this for awhile So many Games now On Steam and we only get a Finished game Ocassionally, Developers sit in Early access for years On years and We Buy the game play it In A Pre alpha State get bored and Likely never ever touch it again.

Really Early Access is One of the few reasons I refuse to convert to PC fully At least My Cruddy Console games are Fully Finished and Not missing critical content.


So Folks weigh in Is Early Access the Bane of all pc gamers? has Steam made a huge error allowing so many? myself i think a game in early access should be in a Open Beta stage Anything not to that point Should not be allowed on steam as EA Perhaps we need a New Moniker for those kinda games... Say We Call it Prealpha? I mean I see people making game bones and tossing up crap that has like no Content and crashes half the time...

[fluxtorrent]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Tsal Vlaxitov:

Początkowo opublikowane przez fluxtorrent:

They are targetted adds that are only used by a very narrow demographic, so yes (women between certain ages during a narrow cyclical window who prefer them over other methods)

So yes by definition they are.

Around 66 million women in the US alone use tampons and you're saying that's a "very narrow demographic by definition."

http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/how-many-women-dont-use-tampons/

So a fraction of the female population, using a medium for advertisement that only a fraction will even see, exposing a huge audience that has no interest.

Yup still seems like a very apt comparison.

[Tsal Vlaxitov]

Less than 50% =/= niche demographic..lol.

Especially when that "niche demographic" spans over tens of millions of people.

By that same logic, every single video game that ever existed is "niche."

[Tsal Vlaxitov]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Start_Running:

and Hey calling a woman a cow is to misoginist. Insulting but misogynist.

lulz cow =/= cow

Men can be just as much of a lulz cow as women can be. Its a gender neutral term.

[Start_Running]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Tsal Vlaxitov:

Less than 50% =/= niche demographic..lol.

Especially when that "niche demographic" spans over tens of millions of people.

By that same logic, every single video game that ever existed is "niche."

You apparently need to review percentages and ratios again.

Tens of millions is a big number untill you cumpare it against 300 million. Then 10 million isn't a lot.

Nice is defined by the percentage of the total market. COnsidering the popularity of things like VN's in Asian markets, particularly Japan and China.. there might be more of a market for those globally than say FPS's

[Start_Running]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Tsal Vlaxitov:

Początkowo opublikowane przez Start_Running:

and Hey calling a woman a cow is to misoginist. Insulting but misogynist.

lulz cow =/= cow

Men can be just as much of a lulz cow as women can be. Its a gender neutral term.

Now trying to insult a male by applying female gener teerms. That is misogynistic.

[Tsal Vlaxitov]

And were back to reaching towards other topics because when its put simply it just can't be properly slighted or maneuvered around.

The core argument still boils down to something like this.

"Its not bad because its not against the rules, therefore it needs to not have rules to prevent it from being bad."

[Tsal Vlaxitov]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Start_Running:

Początkowo opublikowane przez Tsal Vlaxitov:

lulz cow =/= cow

Men can be just as much of a lulz cow as women can be. Its a gender neutral term.

Now trying to insult a male by applying female gener teerms. That is misogynistic.

Again, has nothing to do with a gender, and a rational person can easily discern that.

[Tsal Vlaxitov]

"Its not bad because its not against the rules, therefore it needs to not have rules to prevent it from being bad."

[Start_Running]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Tsal Vlaxitov:

And were back to reaching towards other topics because when its put simply it just can't be properly slighted or maneuvered around.

The core argument still boils down to something like this.

"Its not bad because its not against the rules, therefore it needs to not have rules to prevent it from being bad."

And who started the deviation I wonder? We actually were managing a decent discussion before you and Blackspawn chimed in... as usual

[Tsal Vlaxitov]

"Its not bad because its not against the rules, therefore it needs to not have rules to prevent it from being bad."

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=664824115

[Start_Running]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Tsal Vlaxitov:

"Its not bad because its not against the rules, therefore it needs to not have rules to prevent it from being bad."

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=664824115

If bad is defined as 'being against the rules' then yes. The truthe of the statement is mathematically self-evident.

1+1=2 because 2-1=1 therefore 1+1=2

[[415]BlazeMcNight]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Tsal Vlaxitov:

"Its not bad because its not against the rules, therefore it needs to not have rules to prevent it from being bad."

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=664824115

Do you understand the irony of posting this argument nearly continuously?

[Tsal Vlaxitov]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Start_Running:

Początkowo opublikowane przez Tsal Vlaxitov:

"Its not bad because its not against the rules, therefore it needs to not have rules to prevent it from being bad."

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=664824115

If bad is defined as 'being against the rules' then yes. The truthe of the statement is mathematically self-evident.

1+1=2 because 2-1=1 therefore 1+1=2

Początkowo opublikowane przez Start_Running:

The terms are unfair?
Irrelevant.

[BlackSpawn]

Początkowo opublikowane przez BlazeMcNight:

Początkowo opublikowane przez Tsal Vlaxitov:

"Its not bad because its not against the rules, therefore it needs to not have rules to prevent it from being bad."

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=664824115

Do you understand the irony of posting this argument nearly continuously?

Well, it is descriptive of the disingenuity going about, im afraid to say.
But yes, quite fitting. XD

[fluxtorrent]

Początkowo opublikowane przez BlackSpawn:

Początkowo opublikowane przez BlazeMcNight:

Do you understand the irony of posting this argument nearly continuously?

Well, it is descriptive of the disingenuity going about, im afraid to say.
But yes, quite fitting. XD

your right, the sad irony is you continue to contribute to it despite the fact that I've demonstrated repeatedly how dishonest your arguments are.