Will Steam Remove DRM?

[AlphaZeroX96]

Edit: Once again I mess up the initials.

GoG doesn't have DRM. Why does Steam not do the same?

[eram]

steam is drm

dmr is a digital radio standard

[Kargor]

For starters, Valve does not FORCE publishers to use the Steamworks DRM -- like many things on Steam, they CAN if they WANT to.

And they often WANT to. Which is one reason why games are on Steam and not on GoG. Not the only one, though.

You can find the occasional "DRM-free" game on Steam too. The store just doesn't tell you.

Steam-DRM might be weak -- I'm sure crackers just run a premade script. But it can still keep Joe User from just giving the game to his friends.

[Qbert ⭐]

Originally posted by eram:

steam is drm

dmr is a digital radio standard

[Ogami]

Originally posted by AlphaZeroX96:

GoG doesn't have DMR. Why does Steam not do the same?

Because they would lose like 90% of the games on the store.
The very large majority of publishers WANT DRM in their games.
Compare the game catalog of GOG and STEAM and you see the difference.

[xBCxRangers]

Greed, by developers the likely answer.

[Crazy Tiger]

It's likely not in Valves own interest.

Originally posted by MrNewell123:

Greed, by developers the likely answer.

Always funny how "greed" is considered a one way street on these forums. People really are blind that they don't see that they're simply the other side of the same coin...

[Slav Mcgopnik]

Devs, not Steam itself, decide whether or not their game will have additional DRM.

Devs are allowed to release games without DRM, if they so choose.

[Kargor]

Originally posted by Crazy Tiger:

Originally posted by MrNewell123:

Greed, by developers the likely answer.

Always funny how "greed" is considered a one way street on these forums. People really are blind that they don't see that they're simply the other side of the same coin...

There's the light side and the dark side. The light side greed, as displayed by forum users wanting stuff for free, is good. The dark side greed, as displayed by companies wanting to get paid for their stuff, is bad.

[miakisfan]

Originally posted by Crazy Tiger:

It's likely not in Valves own interest.

Originally posted by MrNewell123:

Greed, by developers the likely answer.

Always funny how "greed" is considered a one way street on these forums. People really are blind that they don't see that they're simply the other side of the same coin...

Too right mate.

It simply amazes me how many people on here refuse to realize that gaming is a two way street.

Not to mention that there are a subset of gamers who don't play by the rules and are the reason why DRM exists.

Yeah, the blame everyone else century wins again.

[Yzal]

"Gog has no drm"
My man, you need a gog account to download your games in the first place. THAT's drm too.

[Ben Lubar]

It depends how you define DRM. If you mean something that makes it harder to crack a game like Denuvo or Steam CEG, the reason Steam doesn't disallow it is that Valve believes in developers being able to make their own choices about what's best for their games.

If you mean something like having to have a license for a game on an account before you can download it, that's because Steam is a store.

If you consider the Steamworks SDK to be DRM because features like achievements, leaderboards, and cloud saves require an account that owns the game, that's because Steam is a store.

If you consider the Steam client itself to be DRM because it allows you to launch games, I'd encourage you to find a narrower definition of "DRM" than "a computer program that does a thing".

[Paratech2008]

Originally posted by AlphaZeroX96:

Edit: Once again I mess up the initials.

GoG doesn't have DRM. Why does Steam not do the same?

Steam can't force publishers not to use 3rd party launchers let alone DRM.

Except games made by Valve, they have no control regarding DRM on games.

[Boblin the Goblin]

Originally posted by 76561198083019420:

gog is exactly the same as steam

The license may be the same but they aren't the same outside of that. Every game on GoG doesn't need Galaxy running to play. They also supply offline installers for every game.

[Boblin the Goblin]

Originally posted by 76561198083019420:

Originally posted by Boblin the Goblin:

The license may be the same but they aren't the same outside of that. Every game on GoG doesn't need Galaxy running to play. They also supply offline installers for every game.

gog even has gog fanboys on their forums that defend everything gog does like steam does

Doesn't make them the services the same. There are fanatics for everything.

[C²C^Guyver |NZB|]

Originally posted by AlphaZeroX96:

Edit: Once again I mess up the initials.

GoG doesn't have DRM. Why does Steam not do the same?

Shut down Steam. Find the game EXE that you want to play. Run it. If it starts the game, you can play that game without Steam. If it brings up the Steam login box, you cannot play the game without Steam.