Tututerokツ雨 2024 年 8 月 13 日 上午 3:47
How could VALVe improve the Quality of the Steam (game) Forums
Aside from removing Reddit awards, people should be able to post anonymously ---> no avatars & username & post hystory would be displayed ---> less room for attacking people's persynas instead of what they say, and everyone's more happy <---> there would be an AI integration into the post box as some button press so you could rephrase what you said as well, and now there's less room for associations, and everyone is even more content.
最後修改者:Tututerokツ雨; 2024 年 8 月 13 日 上午 3:49
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xBCxRangers 2024 年 8 月 13 日 上午 9:28 
引用自 Brian9824
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Well the reason i cut your quotes, is because you're making political statements, and derailing the conversation.

I cited the overall point you tried to make, and if these forums are at all going to be run, at all compared to police departments, its a total false comparison.

Do we get a log number from the Review Board if we have a complaint against a Mod? Do we have a say if thee Mods are disciplined? Can we sue the mod for false arrest?

Can we sue the Newell Police Department when they steal from us? Or the in the least "accused" of such acts?

That's why we need to stay from these false dichotomy.

To the extent you wanted to make it, you got the answer. If the masses are not happy with moderation, as they are not with police, changes are made.

However, we cannot vote out Mayor Newell, if he does not make the changes.

Lets move on.
最後修改者:xBCxRangers; 2024 年 8 月 13 日 上午 9:33
Brian9824 2024 年 8 月 13 日 上午 9:33 
引用自 MrNewell123
引用自 Brian9824
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Well the reason i cut your quotes, is because you're making political statements, and derailing the conversation.
You seem to be very confused again, i'd suggest you actually read responses because there isn't anything political in what you removed from my quote here

引用自 Brian9824
You will ALWAYS see posts claiming quality or decisions aren't good for a service, and unsurprisingly the comments like always tend to come from those who are the ones who are the cause of the problems and getting punished for their actions.

Basic human nature is that people often instead of admitting their faults lash out and blame others. A drug dealer when he is caught blames the system, blames society, blames the police, etc. They don't often admit they made poor choices and could have done better.

No different then those who break the rules on steam.



引用自 MrNewell123
I cited the overall point you tried to make, and if these forums are at all going to be run, at all compared to police departments, its a total false comparison.
That is false, you actually pretended it never existed and haven't been able to address the basic fact that people lie. Your blindly assuming without a shred of proof that specific people are being 100% honest and yet at the same time dismissing everyone else.

Please don't make up false claims and accuse me of political statements when nothing i'm discussing is related to politics. You should brush up on what constitutes politics and what doesn't. Much like the law you seem to be fuzzy on what you are talking about.
xBCxRangers 2024 年 8 月 13 日 上午 9:41 
引用自 Brian9824
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Well that's the "politics" of it sir. That you assume people that make complaints are guilty, or something is up their sleeve. Or that they're lying.

That is not necessarily true and not gonna get into these conversations. Those are your political views about police and complainants.

This is about Steam Moderation, that needs to change.
最後修改者:xBCxRangers; 2024 年 8 月 13 日 上午 9:44
Brian9824 2024 年 8 月 13 日 上午 9:45 
引用自 MrNewell123
Well that's the "politics" of it sir. That you assume people that make complaints are guilty, or something is up their sleeve. Or that they're lying.

That is not necessarily true and not gonna get into in these conversations. Those are your political views.
You really should look up what politics is as you appear to not be familiar with it. People lying or making things up is not related to politics. However that does explain your confusion over so many posts when you don't understand what politics is.



引用自 MrNewell123
This is about Steam Moderation, that needs to change.
Indeed, they need to be stricter with those who break the rules, in that we can agree.
Start_Running 2024 年 8 月 13 日 上午 9:54 
引用自 MrNewell123
引用自 Brian9824
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Well that's the "politics" of it sir. That you assume people that make complaints are guilty, or something is up their sleeve. Or that they're lying.
It's a fair assumption since it winds up being true. Kinda like assuming your car will start in the morning.

And it usually doesn't take much digging. to find the truth or the missing context. And that's basically what the heart of this suggestion is. People who want to hide. Which is kinda antithetical to the idea of discussion.

I mean the OP literally wants to partake in a discussion without being identifiable in any way.
Easy reason whuy this will not be a thing is that if you have two or more such posters in a thread.

Honestly if the OP is afraid of their post history.. then they should just do what some people do all the time. Just create alts. But again those alts will garner their own reputation over time. so the best advice is actually to always argue and discuss ion good faith.

This is the internet. Only a fool takes someone's words at face valuie.

引用自 MrNewell123
This is about Steam Moderation, that needs to change.
It has been changing. They have been getting much faster. Now if only they'd clamp down on the sock puppet plague .
Brian9824 2024 年 8 月 13 日 上午 9:57 
引用自 Start_Running
It has been changing. They have been getting much faster. Now if only they'd clamp down on the sock puppet plague .

And go back to actually properly escalating bans, although I have noticed that a few users seem to be racking up longer bans then the 1/3 day bans we've been seeing mostly. So perhaps they are.
Kargor 2024 年 8 月 13 日 上午 10:06 
Just make the Jester award as a -100 steam points, that way those trolls who farming steam points will think twice.

You can't let users punish other users; that's never going to work out well.

Also, while I don't see the benefit of an "award"-system in general, Steams is "kinda sorta" okay-ish because it's tied to real money, which very much limits the ability to give awards.
最後修改者:Kargor; 2024 年 8 月 13 日 上午 10:09
Haruspex 2024 年 8 月 13 日 上午 10:15 
引用自 Tututerok✨™雨
It seems to me you assume the majority of people would post anonymously, but could be wrong.
It doesn't take a majority of people to completely destroy the conversation of an online community. In fact, it's almost always a minority of very vocal, bad-faith users who do so. You're proposing we help them to spread their chaos by removing the context present in their posting history and username.

引用自 Tututerok✨™雨
I think people would bite the bait less
Human nature says otherwise. They are but fish, and bait is extremely effective. You want to super-charge the effectiveness of bait by removing all context.

Context works in a positive direction too. If I know someone based on their prior history to be knowledgeable and trustworthy, I'm more likely to believe their posts

引用自 Tututerok✨™雨
and my suggestion could serve as a protection from stalkers & harassers, and I have people watching over me, obsessively.
The terms "harassment" and "stalking" are extremely overused online. "Harassment" is often confused with simple disagreement, and looking at public information is not "stalking".
Dr.Shadowds 🐉 2024 年 8 月 13 日 下午 2:47 
引用自 Tututerok✨™雨
引用自 Mad Scientist
The few people that already love thread spamming would love to spam by being anonymous.

Also no exaggeration, we have the experience & knowledge of other users, lacking that information is part of why many suggestions would never work due to the amount of abuse such individuals would use it for.

There's zero need for anonymous posting (no username/tied account/post history), this is not a chan site, this is a public forum and having everything tied to an individual account means being able to hold troublemakers entirely accountable to the point their account can be locked or deleted including products should they be an issue.
So how would it make it worse, other than improve non-existent comfort issues of the poster?

If the bait comes from an anonymous poster there is less trust to them by default, I think people would bite the bait less, and my suggestion could serve as a protection from stalkers & harassers, and I have people watching over me, obsessively.

Would you be kind to share the said experience & knowledge?

There is no moderation already, look at the SCUD of like, Helldivers.
Constant ragebait for Reddit awards.

My suggestion includes Redditory removal.
Actually no it wouldn't lessen the bait at all, people more likely to engage than disengage when comes to agurements. This is more reason people can troll with a mask than having to make new alt if they can remain anonymous completely up front, and no this wouldn't stop people from using alt to troll to begin with either.

When people come here seeking answers specifically can see the issue when get misinformation & agurements. That why if trolls can be seen they turn tail when they can't get their way.

Also the terms "harrassment" & "stalker" some people twist what it means and use it as an excuse when they disagree with something, or losing agurements with someone. So yes there a difference how people try to misused those words, and try to over exaggerated when they can't get their way; versus someone that intentionally following on everything such as screenshots, artwork, guides, basically places person wouldn't normally be posting that have no reason to come in the first place, example posting in game forums they don't even have, and had never posted in before, and only exclusively reply to you in said game forum that has no reason to, nor have any relation to the game in the first place basically. So yeah big difference.
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