Debating on a steamdeck
I recently sold my 3DS XL and my PS Vita as I don't use them.

I already have a gaming laptop and still have my switch.

I'm debating on getting a steam deck but I hear people say it's not powerful enough in 2024.

The other thing if I was to buy one I was thinking Facebook market place, but then I hear horror stories of people getting there accounts banned as the steam deck was reported stolen.

Either or I'm probably going to hold off I would use a steam deck, but the performance is what worries me.

Also to the people who have one what are your thoughts on the steam deck, what do you love about it and hate about it
Ultima modifica da DemonicShadow; 31 lug 2024, ore 20:19
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It is powerful enough if you're fine with 30 FPS (which is the norm for Switch games, by the way). I own a Switch myself & haven't regretted my Deck purchase.

What I love about it, is that it gives me the same games on train that I have on my gaming battlestation. It is just a PC, running Steam games (which my Switch doesn't) which let's me play said games everywhere (which my laptop doesn't). Getting a banger on some Steam sale is more common & cheaper, than a Switch game.
Ultima modifica da ReBoot; 31 lug 2024, ore 21:34
I highly recommend the Steam Deck. I've bought three at this point, and every member of my household has one. Mine is the OLED model, and it's been fantastic.

BUT!

I don't want to rush in and suggest you go out and buy one right away. It's a marvelous device for lots of people, but for some (many?) they're really better off with something else. Whether it's a good purchase for you really depends on you and your expectations.

First, you should ask yourself how you will be using the Steam Deck. What games will you play? Will you find value in being able to play games in a handheld format wherever you happen to be, like on the sofa, or outdoors, or in bed?

Taking a quick look at your profile, I can see that your top five most played games on Steam are all "Call of Duty". That right off the bat suggests to me you might not want a Steam Deck. All of the newer Call of Duty games use an anti-cheat that's fundamentally incompatible with Proton on Linux, which is what the Steam Deck uses instead of Windows. While you can put Windows on the Steam Deck, don't. It won't be a very good experience, and the OLED model doesn't even have a full set of drivers available. There are dedicated Windows based handhelds like the ROG Ally and Lenovo Legion Go that might be more suitable for you. They aren't as nice and smooth and console-like to navigate as the Steam Deck is, they're more expensive, they mostly have terrible battery life due to the higher demand the more powerful hardware puts on it, but at least you'll be able to play the games you want to play. They also tend to be a little more powerful, so they'll have that going for them.

As for performance, I mostly use my Steam Deck to chew through my impossibly massive backlog. Older games run great. I can crank up the settings and turn down the TDP, giving me a very good experience with amazing battery life on the OLED model. As for newer, demanding, AAA titles... Eh, you can play those, but temper your expectations. The Steam Deck is a 15 watt, battery powered handheld gaming PC. It's not made of miracles. Newer AAA games are going to be a low-settings, 30 fps kind of experience for the most part, and as newer and more demanding games come out it's not going to get any better. As long as you are aware of and understand this, there's no problem. Personally, I stick to my much more powerful desktop for these kinds of games where I know I can turn things way up and enjoy an uncompromised experience.

If you're still considering one after that, I'll just leave you with a couple of notes here:

First, just searching on Youtube, "(game you want to play) + Steam Deck" is a fantastic way to see if/how a game will run, and often will provide optimal settings to use.

Second, while most games run fine on the Steam Deck, compatibility isn't perfect. I would say about 85% of games on Steam just work. Another 10% work with some small tweak or adjustment. The last 5% just won't work no matter what you do, yet. Proton is an ever-evolving beast, and what doesn't work today may very well work tomorrow. You can check a site called "ProtonDB" to get a crowdsourced idea of how certain games work. This is a much more detailed and comprehensive than Steam's own "Deck Verified" categorization.

Third, ignore the haters and make up your own mind. Maybe it's due to Valve's dominance in PC gaming, or some other unidentified reason, but I have noticed a small number of very dedicated people on Youtube, these very forums, and other social media who seem to make it their life's mission to dissuade people away from buying a Steam Deck. I don't know why the Deck in particular seems to have developed this small but dedicated cadre of naysayers, but they're there. Also you can find plenty of negative stories about the Deck, but keep in mind the Deck has sold millions at this point, and comparatively there are relatively few negative accounts. The vast majority of Steam Deck owners are too busy playing games post anything about it online, and those with a negative experience are much more likely to complain about it.
I loved getting a new handheld system and not having to buy any games for it. Instant access to your pre-existing Steam library is a huge deal. Not much I hate about it.

I think the Deck is best viewed as a companion to your existing hardware. I use mine for my "smaller" games: rogue-likes, JRPGs, indie games, and turn based tactics. Big, graphically intensive games are still best played on your regular PC.

Messaggio originale di DemonicShadow:
The other thing if I was to buy one I was thinking Facebook market place, but then I hear horror stories of people getting there accounts banned as the steam deck was reported stolen.

If you're referring to that reddit post there was a response from a Valve employee: "Quick followup. I am not commenting on OP's situation. But - for those in thread - please be assured that buying a used Steamdeck is not going to put your account at risk. "

I'd still recommend buying direct from Steam. No chance of being scammed that way compared to a third party marketplace.
Ultima modifica da WhitePhantom; 1 ago 2024, ore 3:12
It’s more then powerful enough for 95% of games and most of the modern ones it can’t run suck anyway
It will play things like PS2 games, Monster Hunter World, Monster Hunter Rise, Elden Ring, Resident Evil 4 Remake. Etc.

Just be willing to play at like 45 FPS (90 hertz).

Just don't expect to be able to play AAA games from 2024 at Ultra settings.

If you had a Switch or Vita, then you already know what to expect. I probably would not buy one second hand though.
It's a very powerful gadget, but to get the most out of the Steam Deck, you should possess some measure of Linux-Fu.

Don't be a weirdo and cripple it with windoze.
Ultima modifica da Electric Cupcake; 1 ago 2024, ore 4:53
Steam deck is a decent buy when you have the money but I wouldn't use it for anything other than emulation personally.
Messaggio originale di Ichigo:
Steam deck is a decent buy when you have the money but I wouldn't use it for anything other than emulation personally.
I love it for beat-em-ups and Monster Hunter too.
So far these suggestions really do show the level of processing power the steam deck offers, it is not really a steam login game repository device, it is a hand held emu gaming system designed for outdated and older low resource required games from the early 2000s example PS2 dated from 2001-2007 and older.

You also need to take into account it's "bulk and weight, and dimensions". The major shortfalls are it's battery life and smaller then average 7 inch screen.

It has no tv streaming functions.

When compared to the Nintendo Wii U. It is vastly under designed, now remember the Wii U did have a console with a wifi controller block that is roughly the same dimension of the steam deck. However the Wii U had tv streaming capability why playing it, the steam deck does not.

Personally, my hope is steam created the steam deck ver 2. Mass distributes it to stores and increases its ram and battery life, adds. HDMI streaming do people can play it on tv while holding it, creates a fairly larger screen around 10 inches and slims down the weight, heat distribution can be off set by using a active ice block cooler which might drain some battery life but offer berter temperature performance, deeper passive heatsinking, and stronger quality dpad and buttons. In retro spec the swapable joycon replacements a good idea but quality is so poor it's almost demandingly needing to be replaced.

Other improvements would be a camera for streamers and improved wifi and cellular capable access. We want a device that is a game changer.

Even if that device is 1000 dollars because the valve index was stupidly over priced for what it is, steam should recognize that the price can give people what they want, not sell them a low end gimic
Messaggio originale di Majestically Awkward:
So far these suggestions really do show the level of processing power the steam deck offers, it is not really a steam login game repository device, it is a hand held emu gaming system designed for outdated and older low resource required games from the early 2000s example PS2 dated from 2001-2007 and older.

You also need to take into account it's "bulk and weight, and dimensions". The major shortfalls are it's battery life and smaller then average 7 inch screen.

It has no tv streaming functions.

When compared to the Nintendo Wii U. It is vastly under designed, now remember the Wii U did have a console with a wifi controller block that is roughly the same dimension of the steam deck. However the Wii U had tv streaming capability why playing it, the steam deck does not.

Personally, my hope is steam created the steam deck ver 2. Mass distributes it to stores and increases its ram and battery life, adds. HDMI streaming do people can play it on tv while holding it, creates a fairly larger screen around 10 inches and slims down the weight, heat distribution can be off set by using a active ice block cooler which might drain some battery life but offer berter temperature performance, deeper passive heatsinking, and stronger quality dpad and buttons. In retro spec the swapable joycon replacements a good idea but quality is so poor it's almost demandingly needing to be replaced.

Other improvements would be a camera for streamers and improved wifi and cellular capable access. We want a device that is a game changer.

Even if that device is 1000 dollars because the valve index was stupidly over priced for what it is, steam should recognize that the price can give people what they want, not sell them a low end gimic
If one were to play a PS2 like game on it, upscaled to 1080p, the battery would last like 8 hours.

If one were to play a modern game on it, you are looking at battery life similar to what you would get on the Switch while playing Tears of the Kingdom.
If you had a 3DS XL and a PS Vita that you didn't use, and also have a gaming laptop, I would worry that you would have your Steamdeck collecting dust after a while as well. Unless you really have a use situation for it that requires the portability of the steamdeck but the 3ds, vita and laptop wouldn't already cover.
Messaggio originale di Pheex:
If you had a 3DS XL and a PS Vita that you didn't use, and also have a gaming laptop, I would worry that you would have your Steamdeck collecting dust after a while as well. Unless you really have a use situation for it that requires the portability of the steamdeck but the 3ds, vita and laptop wouldn't already cover.

"don't use" =/= "never used"

I have a Vita that I never really use either. I played the F out of it at one time though. But it no longer gets new games, and can't really go online anymore. The Steam deck can and does.
Messaggio originale di D. Flame:
Messaggio originale di Majestically Awkward:
So far these suggestions really do show the level of processing power the steam deck offers, it is not really a steam login game repository device, it is a hand held emu gaming system designed for outdated and older low resource required games from the early 2000s example PS2 dated from 2001-2007 and older.

You also need to take into account it's "bulk and weight, and dimensions". The major shortfalls are it's battery life and smaller then average 7 inch screen.

It has no tv streaming functions.

When compared to the Nintendo Wii U. It is vastly under designed, now remember the Wii U did have a console with a wifi controller block that is roughly the same dimension of the steam deck. However the Wii U had tv streaming capability why playing it, the steam deck does not.

Personally, my hope is steam created the steam deck ver 2. Mass distributes it to stores and increases its ram and battery life, adds. HDMI streaming do people can play it on tv while holding it, creates a fairly larger screen around 10 inches and slims down the weight, heat distribution can be off set by using a active ice block cooler which might drain some battery life but offer berter temperature performance, deeper passive heatsinking, and stronger quality dpad and buttons. In retro spec the swapable joycon replacements a good idea but quality is so poor it's almost demandingly needing to be replaced.

Other improvements would be a camera for streamers and improved wifi and cellular capable access. We want a device that is a game changer.

Even if that device is 1000 dollars because the valve index was stupidly over priced for what it is, steam should recognize that the price can give people what they want, not sell them a low end gimic
If one were to play a PS2 like game on it, upscaled to 1080p, the battery would last like 8 hours.

If one were to play a modern game on it, you are looking at battery life similar to what you would get on the Switch while playing Tears of the Kingdom.

Don't bother...all hearsay, not first hand experience. The wii u for example had all the flaws too but it wasn't even a handheld. It couldn't stream to the TV. The console streamed to the controller. Laughable sometimes - active ice block cooler? I guess it means a gas compressing cooler XD. Those have an effectivity of around 15% and guess what...produces heat with 85% of the consumtion.
Reminds me of people that think they can cool their room by leaving the fridge door open.
Ultima modifica da Had Matter; 1 ago 2024, ore 11:29
Messaggio originale di DemonicShadow:
I recently sold my 3DS XL and my PS Vita as I don't use them.

I already have a gaming laptop and still have my switch.

I'm debating on getting a steam deck but I hear people say it's not powerful enough in 2024.

The other thing if I was to buy one I was thinking Facebook market place, but then I hear horror stories of people getting there accounts banned as the steam deck was reported stolen.

Either or I'm probably going to hold off I would use a steam deck, but the performance is what worries me.

Also to the people who have one what are your thoughts on the steam deck, what do you love about it and hate about it

Steam Deck is great, I love mine and play it nearly everyday. It's perfect for lounging in bed or on the couch while watching television or movies with the wife. Highly recommend it.

That being said, there are a few things to be aware of before potentially purchasing one:

Not every game plays great on it.

Even with the 512 GB model, you're perennially out of space, and the "512 GB" is kind of deceptive since you don't actually get 512 GB but significantly less right out the gate, and after nearly 2 years of use I have some 30 GB of "OTHER" on my Deck that I can't get rid of and isn't easy to find/remove in the first place without going into desktop mode and downloading an app/"tool."

It's a shame and seems like a missed opportunity that Valve didn't bother to offer a 1 TB or 2 TB model and decided to just leave it up to the customer to either crack open their Deck and install more space or buy/use mini SD cards.

Newer games generally (by no means all, there are plenty of newer games that can be played on high/ultra but they're usually smaller indie/pixel games, not the big ticket AAA stuff) have to be played on low/medium graphics settings. There are things you can do, settings you can customize and apps/tools you can install/do to overclock it so newer games can handle higher graphics settings, if you're savvy enough and feel like watching and following long YouTube videos with lots of steps and instructions.

It would be nice if the charger was longer. If you're playing for a goodly amount of time in bed/on the couch/whatever, hopefully you have an outlet nearby.

The size/weight/design of the Deck seems to be an issue for some people but it personally doesn't bother me. It reminds me a lot of the Sega Game Gear, which was arguably my favorite handheld as a kid.

I saw another user say the Deck is only good for emulator games/old games. This is false. Here is a brief list of fairly recent and graphically demanding games that I have played extensively/entirely on Steam Deck and which looked and played beautifully:

Cyberpunk 2077
Crusader Kings 3
Robocop Rogue City
Chivalry 2
Crime Boss Rockay City
Sniper Elite 5
Sekiro Shadows Die Twice
Red Dead Redemption 2
Need For Speed Heat
Need For Speed Unbound
Kingdom Come Deliverance
Hogwarts Legacy
Star Wars Jedi Fallen Order
Marvels Guardians of the Galaxy
Palworld
Like a Dragon Ishin!

I could go on but I'll stop there. The Steam Deck is worth it, especially if you grab it when it's on sale. Like I said, I use mine just about everyday; it's so easy and convenient and awesome that I don't even use my gaming laptop or Xbox anymore at this point, I can honestly say it's been at least a year since I played games on something besides my Steam Deck.

The newer OLED 1 TB Steam Deck would probably be the best choice if you do decide to get one.
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