EU citizen's initiative to stop killing games

[Nathan]

Ownership can still be saved outside the US, we just have to get signatures
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkMe9MxxZiI

https://www.stopkillinggames.com/eci
https://citizens-initiative.europa.eu/initiatives/details/2024/000007_en#

"Giant FAQ on The European Initiative to Stop Destroying Games!" (41min)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEVBiN5SKuA

[Yujah]

Автор сообщения: Brian9824

What others are describing would be a fundamental change and in many cases complete re-write of the game's code to make them function without the use of external servers.

Again, not necessarily. The server-side processing situation was really only brought into this thread as an example of the hardest situation to deal with. Much more commonly releasing server software would be "all" there's to it -- but I'll leave that to that, since that's basically already the contents also of a few hundred of the previous posts in this very thread.

... although as mentioned in the above reply as well, an extra tweak could here be that this third-party preservation group could potentially even host the server infrastructure, and in that case with or without a "public" release of the server software.

Mmm. Just interesting. Off to bed :)

[Yujah]

Автор сообщения: Komarimaru

And again, why so few games are like that on GoG.

The thing I linked to is not GOG-as-usual; it's a new and specific program they're introducing.

[Komarimaru]

Автор сообщения: Yujah

Автор сообщения: Komarimaru

And again, why so few games are like that on GoG.

The thing I linked to is not GOG-as-usual; it's a new and specific program they're introducing.

What ya alluded to, was what Sony does, a 3rd party studio working under them. Like Nixxes for the PS ports to PC. But Sony is still liable.

[Yujah]

Yes, that may be a thing, but question becomes how big of an issue that is once development, support and maybe even distribution and/or hosting has been outsourced, and liability at least financially and partly so per contract.

And yes, if we view a contracted out to party as an internal detail, I'm aware that what I'm saying is as such not a change from an end-user perspective. Something like that program is as said a potential change in the preservation aspect though if it were to to be taken as "preservation B2B" in that sense I'm talking about.

[Start_Running]

Автор сообщения: Boblin the Goblin

Автор сообщения: Yujah

By the way, in this context of game preservation:

https://www.gog.com/en/gog-preservation-program

Which is much different than what the petition is asking for.

And quite honestly is just GoG's usual habit of spindoctoring.
This really changes nothing since if those games get pulled by their respective dev/pubs.. well same issue as before. This issue has nothing to do with games that are still actively being sold.
GoG also isn't really doing anything they haven't done before... Basically just building fan patches into the isntallers.

Speaking of which i do believe they'd mmake more progress on game preservation if they basically just gave dev/opubs more arguments and money to you know, put the games on stores.

[Tavish]

https://www.pcgamesn.com/steam/season-pass-rules-valve

if they force this for developers....i think they should force telling us if game needs internet to work also... and guarantee how long it is live. make it happen

[PocketYoda]

Then they should ban killing Books, Magazines, Comics, Movies, TV shows, the News at 7:00 see my point, why only gaming..

[29933545203998740]

Understand that nobody own games, only licenses. Publishers have right to take their games and render unplayable, it is time to embrace practice.

[Yujah]

That's undoubtedly an explicit troll but on Steam one never knows for fully certain, so...

Well, no, it's time to change practice -- although not likely by way of this European initiative; it's dead as a dodo (a species of bird which, I might add, Europeans also killed off).

[Sandvich]

Автор сообщения: Nathan

Ownership can still be saved outside the US, we just have to get signatures
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkMe9MxxZiI

https://www.stopkillinggames.com/eci
https://citizens-initiative.europa.eu/initiatives/details/2024/000007_en#

"Giant FAQ on The European Initiative to Stop Destroying Games!" (41min)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEVBiN5SKuA

Why here?

[Tavish]

https://youtu.be/C5RvoPQZQeM this is very interesting also...big company breaking law and goverment not caring. I see much relation to this...

[Ȼħⱥꞥꞥēł8753452]

Автор сообщения: Tavish

https://youtu.be/C5RvoPQZQeM this is very interesting also...big company breaking law and goverment not caring. I see much relation to this...

Yeah saw that a day ago

[CygGame]

I will sign the EU gaming petition. As long as they sign a petition to install USA first and second amendments into their constitutions.

[Ȼħⱥꞥꞥēł8753452]

Автор сообщения: CygGame

I will sign the EU gaming petition. As long as they sign a petition to install USA first and second amendments into their constitutions.

I wish that would happen tbh

[Tavish]

Автор сообщения: Ȼħⱥꞥꞥēł8753452

Автор сообщения: Tavish

https://youtu.be/C5RvoPQZQeM this is very interesting also...big company breaking law and goverment not caring. I see much relation to this...

Yeah saw that a day ago

And remember people saying there is no problem. If companies do illegal stuff people can sue so it must be legal.... but to sue its too expensive for us