Why do so many steam gamers say one thing and do another?

[Randy Lahey]

What im refering to, is how games and types of games that are so universally hated either due to their shallowness, their story or their predatory monetization are still played religiously by the same people crying and moaning about them. Then games which do the things they cry for in games, no macrotransactions, good story, fun gameplay etc, end up not even an afterthought in these same hypocrites minds. Baldurs Gate 3 excepted, how many of these people try a game like Blasphemous 2, Granblue Relink, Shin Megam Tensei V Vengeance, Like A Dragon Infinite Wealth or Hellblade II, at least compared to the dude bro games like Rust, Palworld or Overwatch 2. The latter being one of the worst ratioed games on steam and yet has 10x the players online right now than the other 5 games have probably had in sales.

Same people complain that im not paying $40,50,60 or $70 for such and such game. But will gladly sink hundreds of dollars a month into a free to play (sic) game like Overwatch Path of Exile or more recently, the First Descendant. Dont get me wrong people are entitled play and spend whatever they want on anything on the store but if you do whale on a f2p game, imo you forfeit your right to complain about any purchasable games monetization systems. When 6 out of the 10 top selling games on steam right now are free to play multiplayer macrotransation drivel you know that their is either a big problem with the industry itself, or that people who play games have just gone insane over the past 5-6 years.

[feytharn]

The 'steam gamers' that post their opinions in the forum are a very small fraction of the actual player base on steam. So few that they would probably not be enough to be a represantative sample any kind of statistic.
Their opinion will not reflect in game sales, DLC sales or pretty much anything else in the video game industry.

[Chika Ogiue]

Originally posted by dalmatian700:

universally hated

There is no such thing.

[Randy Lahey]

For predatory microtransactions, i would argue they are universally hated by percentage. In regards to the first comment, yeah you are correct, but 300-400k reviews on something would suggest a pretty big portion of the current player base for said game (Overwatch 2)

[Elation]

For some people it's probably sunk cost fallacy. You've already invested a lot of time and money into it, so even if you feel like you hate the game, why stop playing. Maybe eventually the devs will make it better, maybe not. Or maybe you're just chasing that dopamine hit that you had when you first started playing. 90% of the time, you're not having fun, but you want to experience that 10% of the time it is fun again. The next match will be fun, you swear.

For other people maybe it's just plain hypocrisy or not practicing what you preach or whatever you want to call it. Or maybe you're just stupid with your money. Either way, this is most definitely not a Steam gamer exclusive. In fact, it's not even a gamer exclusive. This is human nature. I see you must be new to humans.

[ReBoot]

Don't let a vocal minority fool you. They want you to think that their stance is the official community stance. It is not. A few people are bullshitting morons by some means, the vast majority isn't. It isn't "so many Steam gamers", it's a vocal minority that can't shut up.

[Chika Ogiue]

Originally posted by dalmatian700:

For predatory microtransactions, i would argue they are universally hated by percentage.

They aren't.

They are only considered predatory by those who lack the funds for them. The type of people they aren't actually aimed at but who lack the self-restraint to not bother with them.

The people they are aimed at, on the other hand, the people with far more money than most are going to see in their lifetimes, consider each purchase to be pocket change.

[Randy Lahey]

Originally posted by Anoi Hidalgo:

SMT V is pretty good, everything else you listed is pretty meh

You could argue a couple of them to be meh like Granblue or Hellblade II, but Infinite Wealth is far from it. One of the best games of the year so far imo

[T9]

Sheep

[Eagle_of_Fire]

I've said it before, I'm going to say it again: "gamer" is supposed to be a word describing an elite group of people.

The fact that this term has been hijacked to be used to describe anybody touching a mouse and keyboard or a controller is the actual problem here. Because real gamers don't do what OP is describing. In fact, gamers are known for their strong opinions and how they act on them.

[Mailer]

Originally posted by dalmatian700:

Originally posted by Anoi Hidalgo:

SMT V is pretty good, everything else you listed is pretty meh

You could argue a couple of them to be meh like Granblue or Hellblade II, but Infinite Wealth is far from it. One of the best games of the year so far imo

As much as I am a sucker for Yakuza games, Infinite Wealth wasn't exactly exempt from controversy if I remember right:
https://www.gamesradar.com/like-a-dragon-infinite-wealth-paywalls-new-game-plus-behind-dollar85dollar110-editions-and-one-yakuza-actor-argues-the-decision-hurts-community-goodwill/

[T9]

Originally posted by Eagle_of_Fire:

I've said it before, I'm going to say it again: "gamer" is supposed to be a word describing an elite group of people.

The fact that this term has been hijacked to be used to describe anybody touching a mouse and keyboard or a controller is the actual problem here. Because real gamers don't do what OP is describing. In fact, gamers are known for their strong opinions and how they act on them.

Nice fantasy

[Lithurge]

Originally posted by Eagle_of_Fire:

I've said it before, I'm going to say it again: "gamer" is supposed to be a word describing an elite group of people.

The fact that this term has been hijacked to be used to describe anybody touching a mouse and keyboard or a controller is the actual problem here. Because real gamers don't do what OP is describing. In fact, gamers are known for their strong opinions and how they act on them.

I call ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ on that, some people like to try and co-opt it and pretend it has some elite meaning, but given it was used in the 80's and has a crossover with D&D culture back them it has little to do with being 'elite'.

[miakisfan]

Originally posted by dalmatian700:

What im refering to, is how games and types of games that are so universally hated either due to their shallowness, their story or their predatory monetization are still played religiously by the same people crying and moaning about them. Then games which do the things they cry for in games, no macrotransactions, good story, fun gameplay etc, end up not even an afterthought in these same hypocrites minds. Baldurs Gate 3 excepted, how many of these people try a game like Blasphemous 2, Granblue Relink, Shin Megam Tensei V Vengeance, Like A Dragon Infinite Wealth or Hellblade II, at least compared to the dude bro games like Rust, Palworld or Overwatch 2. The latter being one of the worst ratioed games on steam and yet has 10x the players online right now than the other 5 games have probably had in sales.

Same people complain that im not paying $40,50,60 or $70 for such and such game. But will gladly sink hundreds of dollars a month into a free to play (sic) game like Overwatch Path of Exile or more recently, the First Descendant. Dont get me wrong people are entitled play and spend whatever they want on anything on the store but if you do whale on a f2p game, imo you forfeit your right to complain about any purchasable games monetization systems. When 6 out of the 10 top selling games on steam right now are free to play multiplayer macrotransation drivel you know that their is either a big problem with the industry itself, or that people who play games have just gone insane over the past 5-6 years.

Isn't that exactly what Liberal politicians do? Say one thing and do another? Looks like Steam gamers are in on the action now too according to this individual.

Here's a news flash: Some of us want people to others to enjoy whatever they are playing and not judge them for it. Sorry to tell you this but what you or others are doing playing games isn't renting space in my head.

I'm not going to say I don't think there isn't an issue with micro-transactions because I do but here's the kicker ... I am not forced to play those games nor do I have to pay for anything in them if I don't want to. I vote with my wallet.

If the game is unbeatable without paying for in game items I wouldn't waste a second of my time on it. That's my bottom line.

[Devsman]

There is more than one person on Steam.

You're going to have to prove that the people who complain about bad games and ask for good ones are the same ones playing bad games and ignoring good ones.

[vkobe]

Originally posted by dalmatian700:

What im refering to, is how games and types of games that are so universally hated either due to their shallowness, their story or their predatory monetization are still played religiously by the same people crying and moaning about them. Then games which do the things they cry for in games, no macrotransactions, good story, fun gameplay etc, end up not even an afterthought in these same hypocrites minds. Baldurs Gate 3 excepted, how many of these people try a game like Blasphemous 2, Granblue Relink, Shin Megam Tensei V Vengeance, Like A Dragon Infinite Wealth or Hellblade II, at least compared to the dude bro games like Rust, Palworld or Overwatch 2. The latter being one of the worst ratioed games on steam and yet has 10x the players online right now than the other 5 games have probably had in sales.

Same people complain that im not paying $40,50,60 or $70 for such and such game. But will gladly sink hundreds of dollars a month into a free to play (sic) game like Overwatch Path of Exile or more recently, the First Descendant. Dont get me wrong people are entitled play and spend whatever they want on anything on the store but if you do whale on a f2p game, imo you forfeit your right to complain about any purchasable games monetization systems. When 6 out of the 10 top selling games on steam right now are free to play multiplayer macrotransation drivel you know that their is either a big problem with the industry itself, or that people who play games have just gone insane over the past 5-6 years.

sorry i dont play game you mentione

only game close you describe is black desert, but the game is not bad iike you describe

other may be bethesda game, paradox game

my only regret is assassin creed vhallala, a junk, but other ubisoft i bought i am happy with them