Reguarding aggressive moderators. Did the forum rules or how moderation works change recently?

[noisyturtle]

I have noticed the mods have been extremely aggressive lately. I've been on Steam for over a decade, and maybe once in all that time have gotten a temp ban. But in the past few days alone I am getting banned left and right. Was there a rule change I'm not aware of, or have the moderators been instructed to be much more aggressive on bans recently?

What is going on? I am afraid to voice any opinion or interact with the community lately, it is getting quite insane.

I'm a little scared to even voice my concern regarding this topic.

[76561199676067268]

And another thing, these awards. I've already pointed it out, and it's not going to change anything, but it needs to be said.

To me, it's another sign of how your foundation is completely off. You value popularity and imagine that a thing somehow becomes more true if more people support it. You will even try to use it as an argument: "Look, all of these people disagree with you and therefore you are wrong!!!" Hahahaha. So stupid.

You will support each other just because it is "your tribe", no matter how bad, inappropriate or nonsensical the post is. You never care about reason, ever.

I call the people who do this redditors. If you do it to annoy me, well, you have succeeded. But you can stop now because I have hidden them.

[Amaterasu]

引用自 ghost：

And another thing, these awards. I've already pointed it out, and it's not going to change anything, but it needs to be said.

To me, it's another sign of how your foundation is completely off. You value popularity and think that something somehow becomes more true if more people support it. You will support each other just because it is "your tribe", no matter how bad, inappropriate or nonsensical the post is. You never care about reason, ever.

I call the people who do this redditors. If you do it to annoy me, well, you have succeeded at that. But you can stop now because I have hidden them.

Hey look, a ship that I get to sink.

Let's go point by point shall we.

引用自 ghost：

And another thing, these awards. I've already pointed it out, and it's not going to change anything, but it needs to be said.

Awards were indeed a mistake, but so was the removal of the no politics rule. I'm glad that there is some form of agreement on this that can be made.

引用自 ghost：

To me, it's another sign of how your foundation is completely off. You value popularity and think that something somehow becomes more true if more people support it.

You just summed up everyone that browses social media and mainstream media sites, of which you are one of. You yourself want to be popular, but hate the fact that Steam is a place where your particular brand of behavior isn't allowed, so you lash out at the "other". Even when they are imaginary.

Also, I don't know why I was given awards, I don't care about the awards, I'm just going to use those steam points in a couple weeks to buy a level up for my completionist showcase.

引用自 ghost：

You will support each other just because it is "your tribe", no matter how bad, inappropriate or nonsensical the post is. You never care about reason, ever.

The same easily could be said of you and everyone in your tribe. But as with all tribalism, you only want it to apply to them, but when that gets turned against you, it's suddenly not alright.

引用自 ghost：

I call the people who do this redditors. If you do it to annoy me, well, you have succeeded at that. But you can stop now because I have hidden them.

You can only hide profile awards on the Steam Client, which considering you have multiple alts, I doubt you're using. I myself have hidden profile awards because I do not like how they clutter up that side of my profile.

As for annoying you? That's as easy as breathing.

[76561199676067268]

引用自 Sun Goddess：

something I didn't read

What exactly needs to happen before you finally give up? I have told you clearly and repeatedly that I am not interested. I have also told you why. You have proven without a doubt that you are a horrible communicator and will fantasize all kinds of things constantly which I have not said, and then go on a rant about them. I really don't have the patience to deal with people like that.

[Komarimaru]

引用自 ghost：

引用自 Sun Goddess：

something I didn't read

What exactly needs to happen before you finally give up? I have told you clearly and repeatedly that I am not interested. I have also told you why. You have proven without a doubt that you are a horrible communicator and will fantasize all kinds of things constantly which I have not said, and then go on a rant about them. I really don't have the patience to deal with people like that.

You are interested though.

Look at how many Steam Accounts you made to just post. It's at the stages of being unhealthy now.

[Mad Scientist]

引用自 ghost：

And another thing, these awards. I've already pointed it out, and it's not going to change anything, but it needs to be said.

(snip)

None of that has to do with the thread being about moderation, moderators and/or game developers removing problem individuals from hubs.

[76561199492560916]

引用自 Komarimaru：

引用自 ghost：

What exactly needs to happen before you finally give up? I have told you clearly and repeatedly that I am not interested. I have also told you why. You have proven without a doubt that you are a horrible communicator and will fantasize all kinds of things constantly which I have not said, and then go on a rant about them. I really don't have the patience to deal with people like that.

You are interested though.

Look at how many Steam Accounts you made to just post. It's at the stages of being unhealthy now.

Makes me miss the volunteer mods because his soapbox would be gone in an instant, no matter how many alts he makes.

[xBCxRangers]

If folks don't feel the rules are being applied equally and fairly, they're not going to think much of the rules, and circumvent them, and there is nothing Steam can do.

And so we have to agree, no matter which side you sit, there is a problem with moderation.

They need to fix that, and likely replace the current moderation team, and bring in another, and keep doing it until they get it right.

[Aachen]

引用自 xBCxRangers：

If folks don't feel the rules are being applied equally and fairly, they're not going to think much of the rules, and circumvent them, and there is nothing Steam can do.

And so we have to agree, no matter which side you sit, there is a problem with moderation.

They need to fix that, and likely replace the current moderation team, and bring in another, and keep doing it until they get it right.

“There is a problem” is the hilariously-vague formulation used frequently when the nature of the problem is heavily-contested.

[Amaterasu]

引用自 ghost：

引用自 Sun Goddess：

something I didn't read

What exactly needs to happen before you finally give up? I have told you clearly and repeatedly that I am not interested. I have also told you why. You have proven without a doubt that you are a horrible communicator and will fantasize all kinds of things constantly which I have not said, and then go on a rant about them. I really don't have the patience to deal with people like that.

Obviously you are interested, or you wouldn't be constantly trying to goad me into acting like your echo chambers say I should.

Also holy projections, Batman!

[76561199676067268]

引用自 Sun Goddess：

引用自 ghost：

What exactly needs to happen before you finally give up? I have told you clearly and repeatedly that I am not interested. I have also told you why. You have proven without a doubt that you are a horrible communicator and will fantasize all kinds of things constantly which I have not said, and then go on a rant about them. I really don't have the patience to deal with people like that.

Obviously you are interested, or you wouldn't be constantly trying to goad me into acting like your echo chambers say I should.

Also holy projections, Batman!

Ok so you are never going to give up. Well then I am going to give up trying to get through to you. Keep spamming your walls of text if you are having so much fun with that. I won't read them.

[76561199492560916]

引用自 xBCxRangers：

If folks don't feel the rules are being applied equally and fairly, they're not going to think much of the rules, and circumvent them, and there is nothing Steam can do.

And so we have to agree, no matter which side you sit, there is a problem with moderation.

They need to fix that, and likely replace the current moderation team, and bring in another, and keep doing it until they get it right.

They are applied equally and fairly. You, unlike others, cannot conform to the rules. That's the only problem.

[Amaterasu]

引用自 ghost：

引用自 Sun Goddess：

Obviously you are interested, or you wouldn't be constantly trying to goad me into acting like your echo chambers say I should.

Also holy projections, Batman!

Ok so you are never going to give up. Well then I am going to give up trying to get through to you. Keep spamming your walls of text if you are having so much fun with that. I won't read them.

I mean it isn't my fault that you hate intellectualism.

[Aachen]

引用自 Komarimaru：

How was anything I posted, woke? ….

An …. application …. of the transitive property, perhaps?

[xBCxRangers]

引用自 Aachen：

引用自 xBCxRangers：

If folks don't feel the rules are being applied equally and fairly, they're not going to think much of the rules, and circumvent them, and there is nothing Steam can do.

And so we have to agree, no matter which side you sit, there is a problem with moderation.

They need to fix that, and likely replace the current moderation team, and bring in another, and keep doing it until they get it right.

:Tali: “There is a problem” is the hilariously-vague formulation used frequently when the nature of the problem is heavily-contested.

Well, there are many that don't believe moderation goes far enough, and want a more punitive approach. Perma bans etc. They complain all the time why certain posters are not out of here by now.

Then you have folks like myself and others, who feel the rules not being applied equally, or correctly. And some feeling the rules too vague, in that almost anything in a conversation can break the rules.

I've seen the most ardent pro moderation posters here for more than the past year, now become some of the most ardent anti moderation posters, being they now felt the wrath of the very moderation, they wanted for others, but now happening to them.

Altogether, there is a problem, in that many of us agree there is, and so, i guess that's what i meant.

[Aachen]

引用自 xBCxRangers：

…. Altogether, there is a problem, in that many of us agree there is, and so, i guess that's what i meant.

Many people believe incorrect ideas, though, so that’s not exactly a persuasive argument (AKA “argument from popularity”).