Nihi 2024 年 7 月 1 日 下午 6:38
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About the "LGBT stuff" spam in games forums.
We've all seen it, and we all know very little of it is honest feedback, most of it is bait to farm Jester awards or to get people to rage and abuse reports.

If you don't see what I mean, take a look at The First Descendant's forum, half of the first page is that in one way or another. ( https://steamcommunity.com/app/2074920/discussions/0/ )

Valve is not doing anything because censoring discussion about LGBT is a big no no in progressive USA. Trolls know that and abuse that fact, the funny part is, if you block them, and go to other forums, they post the same thing everywhere and you start seeing "This was posted by a blocked user" everywhere.

There's two solutions to that problem, before it gets even worse :

- REMOVE AWARDS. It doesn't serve any purpose other than being a "steam point sink", and suddenly, you get rid of all the Jester farmers, aka, the vast majority of these posters.

- Apply the rules the same EVEN when people talk about that subject. There's no reason people would be allowed to spam about that and not anything else. Almost none of these threads are locked... "This discussion has devolved and is no longer constructive" ? That's what you use to censor every single interesting discussion, but you allow these trolls and the morons who answer to flood your forums with no repercussion ?


And finally, a message to Valve employees, you think you help the LGBTs by doing what you're doing, but you don't, you just make it so that everyone is sick and tired of it, and it leads to more LGBT hate. You're accomplices.
最后由 Nihi 编辑于; 2024 年 7 月 1 日 下午 6:41
引用自 RiO:
引用自 Tolkien Book Fan
Another "Chase my bigoted dollar or fail!!" thread. For thirty-five years the gaming industry has been proving that it ISN'T dependent on neo-Confederate white supremacists, despite what you keep telling yourselves. Gay people aren't the 'problem', the insecure people who bash them are.

This thread isn't about that though.
This thread is about what's colloquially also called 'concern trolls'.

They bandwagon onto forums bringing up LGBT and racial minority concerns in a bad-faith manner and attempt to bait people into a discussion; send them down a rabbit hole of further bad-faith arguing until people snap and react aggressively, and then they report them to get those posters banned.
Farming jester awards is just the icing on the cake.

Give them any other topic, and they'd do the same.
Before LGBT and racial minorities, it was Denuvo and DRM in general.
Before Denuvo and DRM, it was DLC.
etc.

LGBT and racial minorities are just that much more of a hot-button issue that we can expect it to remain their go-to topic of concern-trolling choice for, probably, years to come.


These are not people that actually wish well for these minorities. In fact, some probably do it explicitly to poison the well and get everyone that brings up such matters to be treated as an annoyance, effectively eroding the tolerance and acceptance that's there today as a result of the hard work and hardships of the past attempting to build bridges.
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Iron Knights 2024 年 7 月 5 日 下午 4:15 
When the 10% cram & force their crap into the minds of the 90%, there will be backlash.
Want more people to hate you ? Keep doing what you're doing and the 90% will become your opposing enemy.
Eeve2espeon 2024 年 7 月 5 日 下午 4:23 
Honestly the "jester" award thing is a problem everywhere :/
Its used to make fun of people, and even if you do get some points... its still a low blow.
The awards system was probably meant to boost the community, but that backfires constantly. Mostly for me, I noticed when LGBTQ+/pro-abortion posts are made, or when people give negative reviews for how bad a creator acts is what mostly gets those awards.
Piston Smashed™ 2024 年 7 月 5 日 下午 4:31 
引用自 Iron Knights
When the 10% cram & force their crap into the minds of the 90%, there will be backlash.
Want more people to hate you ? Keep doing what you're doing and the 90% will become your opposing enemy.

You're the one bringing the hate, nothing changes if people continue to hate. You only have to look throughout history to see that hate doesn't solve anything. So, instead of hating, learn to live with others and stop trying to judge a book by its cover.
Luke 2024 年 7 月 5 日 下午 7:27 
引用自 Ferox_Stormdragon
Those that scream and demand LGBT+++ content in games are the ones that are so insecure about their sexuality that it must be seen and talked everywhere, me... while it would be nice for some LGBT++ characters and storylines (no rainbow flags pls, their horrible) that are added organically and not shoehorned to tick a box, i leave those decisions to the devs.

The comment aren't being written by LGBTI people though, it's just people pretending to be LGBTI to trigger people like you and farm clown awards. How are you blind to this?
Luke 2024 年 7 月 5 日 下午 7:33 
引用自 MonkehMaster
agreed OP, the platform is being spammed with said lgb stuff.

i have seen bot accounts and accounts being used by actual people spamming this stuff in many game forums, most notably in said game forums sub forums for news/updates, where they beg for adding "lgb representation" or nonsense lgb features.

side note: also to mention, this isnt coming from actual lgb people or even in most cases trans, its coming from DEI activists/firms who are invading all spaces to push their agenda's and push out straight people, or in most cases "white straight men", of which we can see being blatantly stated and even illegal hiring practices happening not only in the gaming spaces, but outside of gaming as well.

side note: this isnt only on game forums though, have seen some of it bleed off into steams discussion forums as well.

but, steam is not allowing them to do this, its the game devs who dont bother with the reporting of such spam, which is why you report them directly to steam moderation/support or through their profile and moderation/support will remove it and punish them.

i have seen loads of said people and/or bot accounts, be banned and spam lgb comments deleted.

and as rio mentioned, this is coming from both sides, where as people who support it and people who dont but are there to "poison the well", though fair to say, both will be punished for it.

with that said, none of its needed on steam or in games (or anywhere else outside of gaming), in general... just ignore and report them, while also "voting with your wallet" and dont buy, the games/from devs who force said stuff in their games and force the use of it, while ignoring or demeaning everyone who isnt lgb.

but also keep in mind, plenty of games have implemented tons of lgb stuff in games, without forcing it on you and also keeping it feeling natural and in-line with the story or gameplay, which is perfectly fine and in some cases (if the game is good), is worth buying... (1 example being stardew valley).

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in the end, it wont go as these activists/firms think it will go and its already having negative impact on them, with games, movies and tv shows all flopping, with some (in the case of movies/shows) being discontinued as majority doesnt buy or watch their stuff, or funding being removed for said firms/etc.., or even regions simply banning it out right, not to mention tons of people are speaking up about all this DEI nonsense being forced into everything and ruining all of it, which just makes it more widely known so more can be done to handle it.

The steam comment LGBTI spams are clown award farming but also possibly double as a psy-op by the alt-right to pose as LGBTI people, generate outrage on their behalf and help recruit more people to the alt-right by making every day people angry at minorities. It wouldn't be the first time the alt-right has organised to do stuff like this on 4chan.
最后由 Luke 编辑于; 2024 年 7 月 5 日 下午 7:35
Amaterasu 2024 年 7 月 5 日 下午 7:38 
引用自 Iron Knights
When the 10% cram & force their crap into the minds of the 90%, there will be backlash.
Want more people to hate you ? Keep doing what you're doing and the 90% will become your opposing enemy.

See, when you can use this logic against people you hate, why can't you use it against the people actively ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ your life over. You know, your politicians and their paymasters.
Amaterasu 2024 年 7 月 5 日 下午 7:40 
引用自 Luke
引用自 MonkehMaster
agreed OP, the platform is being spammed with said lgb stuff.

i have seen bot accounts and accounts being used by actual people spamming this stuff in many game forums, most notably in said game forums sub forums for news/updates, where they beg for adding "lgb representation" or nonsense lgb features.

side note: also to mention, this isnt coming from actual lgb people or even in most cases trans, its coming from DEI activists/firms who are invading all spaces to push their agenda's and push out straight people, or in most cases "white straight men", of which we can see being blatantly stated and even illegal hiring practices happening not only in the gaming spaces, but outside of gaming as well.

side note: this isnt only on game forums though, have seen some of it bleed off into steams discussion forums as well.

but, steam is not allowing them to do this, its the game devs who dont bother with the reporting of such spam, which is why you report them directly to steam moderation/support or through their profile and moderation/support will remove it and punish them.

i have seen loads of said people and/or bot accounts, be banned and spam lgb comments deleted.

and as rio mentioned, this is coming from both sides, where as people who support it and people who dont but are there to "poison the well", though fair to say, both will be punished for it.

with that said, none of its needed on steam or in games (or anywhere else outside of gaming), in general... just ignore and report them, while also "voting with your wallet" and dont buy, the games/from devs who force said stuff in their games and force the use of it, while ignoring or demeaning everyone who isnt lgb.

but also keep in mind, plenty of games have implemented tons of lgb stuff in games, without forcing it on you and also keeping it feeling natural and in-line with the story or gameplay, which is perfectly fine and in some cases (if the game is good), is worth buying... (1 example being stardew valley).

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in the end, it wont go as these activists/firms think it will go and its already having negative impact on them, with games, movies and tv shows all flopping, with some (in the case of movies/shows) being discontinued as majority doesnt buy or watch their stuff, or funding being removed for said firms/etc.., or even regions simply banning it out right, not to mention tons of people are speaking up about all this DEI nonsense being forced into everything and ruining all of it, which just makes it more widely known so more can be done to handle it.

The steam comment LGBTI spams are clown award farming but also possibly double as a psy-op by the alt-right to pose as LGBTI people, generate outrage on their behalf and help recruit more people to the alt-right by making every day people angry at minorities. It wouldn't be the first time the alt-right has organised to do stuff like this on 4chan.

I can tell you why they don't see it that way. "It's my clan, so there's no way that they could be doing something bad or unjustified!"
Luke 2024 年 7 月 5 日 下午 7:42 
引用自 Iron Knights
When the 10% cram & force their crap into the minds of the 90%, there will be backlash.
Want more people to hate you ? Keep doing what you're doing and the 90% will become your opposing enemy.
What if i told to you it's members of the 90% posing as the 10%, saying outrageous things on behalf of the 10%, with the intention to trigger the rest of the 90% into wanting to attack the 10% even more, and you have played right into their hand?
Luke 2024 年 7 月 5 日 下午 7:48 
引用自 Sun Goddess
引用自 Luke

The steam comment LGBTI spams are clown award farming but also possibly double as a psy-op by the alt-right to pose as LGBTI people, generate outrage on their behalf and help recruit more people to the alt-right by making every day people angry at minorities. It wouldn't be the first time the alt-right has organised to do stuff like this on 4chan.

I can tell you why they don't see it that way. "It's my clan, so there's no way that they could be doing something bad or unjustified!"
Yep it's legit just the alt-right triggering the alt-right, causing themselves to become even more extremist, and we are all just getting caught in the crossfire.
Boblin the Goblin 2024 年 7 月 5 日 下午 8:23 
引用自 ghost
引用自 Luke
Yep it's legit just the alt-right triggering the alt-right, causing themselves to become even more extremist, and we are all just getting caught in the crossfire.

Nice victim mentality you got there. Sure is convenient to blame others for everything and never be responsible, right? This "alt-right" doesn't even exist, it is pure brainwash. Ok in fact they do exist but they are not what you think.
Wait.

Is this being said unironically?
Amaterasu 2024 年 7 月 5 日 下午 8:24 
引用自 ghost
引用自 Luke
Yep it's legit just the alt-right triggering the alt-right, causing themselves to become even more extremist, and we are all just getting caught in the crossfire.

Nice victim mentality you got there. Sure is convenient to blame others for everything and never be responsible, right?

Man, the irony and hypocrisy in this comment is staggering. Bro, you're the kind of person that'd scream oppression because you get told you can't scream fire in a crowded theater. :NeeraEyeroll:
Amaterasu 2024 年 7 月 5 日 下午 8:25 
引用自 SlowMango
引用自 ghost

Nice victim mentality you got there. Sure is convenient to blame others for everything and never be responsible, right? This "alt-right" doesn't even exist, it is pure brainwash. Ok in fact they do exist but they are not what you think.
Wait.

Is this being said unironically?

It is 100% unironic. He's deep in the cult. I'm just waiting for something antisemitic to be screamed at this point.
Yujah 2024 年 7 月 5 日 下午 8:28 
引用自 Yujah
Refer to the accepted answer: "concern trolling" is unusually effective since you in order to protest the trolling (as OP does) are easily accused of instead protesting the concern (as you fairly lightly do, and as was done also less lightly above).

Add in the as to the specific concern actual drift-heads (as per a few posts above) and those that then in turn react to those (as was... well, actually, up to now not really done, kudos, but if this thread doesn't die fast, wait for it).
Called it!
最后由 Yujah 编辑于; 2024 年 7 月 5 日 下午 8:29
Luke 2024 年 7 月 6 日 上午 12:12 
引用自 SlowMango
引用自 ghost

Nice victim mentality you got there. Sure is convenient to blame others for everything and never be responsible, right? This "alt-right" doesn't even exist, it is pure brainwash. Ok in fact they do exist but they are not what you think.
Wait.

Is this being said unironically?
Unfortunately, far out the "victim mentality" card is so overused by the alt-right, getting so old, especially when they tick every box of this problem they are complaining about. Hypocrites.
Doctor Zalgo 2024 年 7 月 6 日 上午 12:14 
引用自 Chelle
There are no 'oh my God' moments for just about anyone upon realising someone they know or speak with is of that umbrella term in any way shape or form.
It is a none topic a none problem for the majority of people.

I am English and although I have been in Australia around sixteen years I suspect that the UK is probably the same.

The UK is completely engulfed in trans panic at the moment to the point where even the guardian is running regular hit pieces against trans people and trans medicine.
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