Xertz Jun 29, 2024 @ 2:39am
The 30% cut Steam takes on game sales
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Last edited by Xertz; Jun 30, 2024 @ 5:43am
Originally posted by Mailer:
Originally posted by Lucas Puiroud:
Originally posted by Anonymous Helper:

Valve already takes lower cut from games that earn enough revenue on Steam. For games making over 10 million $ the cut is 25% and for games making over 50 million $ the cut is lowered to 20%.

Basically every single AAA game makes over 50 million $ (for 60$ that's less than million units sold and AAA games tend to sell millions of copies. Heck they need to sell 1.5-3 million+ just to break even in most cases), many AA+ and A+ games too and there are indies that make that much as well. Lot of high profile indies have made over 10 million $.
I believe you but do you have a source for cuts pourcentages please ?
https://steamcommunity.com/groups/steamworks/announcements/detail/1697191267930157838

As for the OP, I share your opinion, and I think the base revenue share of 70%/30% is very reasonable considering all the features that Steam offers developers in return.
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Yujah Jun 29, 2024 @ 2:42am 
So Gabe Newell came to your house flexing that chainsaw too, uh? ;-(
Xertz Jun 29, 2024 @ 2:50am 
Originally posted by Yujah:
So Gabe Newell came to your house flexing that chainsaw too, uh? ;-(
No no haha i just think i made my post yesterday a little too quickly. but i still think they could lower the percentage a little bit .Have a good day/evening
MrSteel300 Jun 29, 2024 @ 2:50am 
yeah , getting a random drm spy ware on my old games really makes the cut valid
Wolfpig Jun 29, 2024 @ 2:51am 
You don*t know how much the companies would need top pay if they would sell their games in real stores.
Hint: it is more than 30%.

And the search of the board will bring you up year old threads about that, and the conclusion would be, why do you care at all if you do not want to sell stuff here?
Xertz Jun 29, 2024 @ 2:52am 
Originally posted by MrSteel300:
yeah , getting a random drm spy ware on my old games really makes the cut valid
I didn't say that everything was perfect..Have a good day/evening
Xertz Jun 29, 2024 @ 2:54am 
Originally posted by Wolfpig:
You don*t know how much the companies would need top pay if they would sell their games in real stores.
Hint: it is more than 30%.

And the search of the board will bring you up year old threads about that, and the conclusion would be, why do you care at all if you do not want to sell stuff here?
I might do a game one day thats why i care about the cut .
Yujah Jun 29, 2024 @ 2:58am 
Have sometimes wondered whether or not it'd make sense to differentiate the cut based on by a game used Steam features (Steam cloud, Steam DRM, Steam multiplayer, VAC, ...) but seem to always decide that, no, it wouldn't; would drive developers away from a unified experience that users want.

Yet. I would still suggest that the amount of money that Valve rakes in seems to be saying that they take too much to make sense currently.
Last edited by Yujah; Jun 29, 2024 @ 2:59am
MrSteel300 Jun 29, 2024 @ 3:01am 
Originally posted by Yujah:
Have sometimes wondered whether or not it'd make sense to differentiate the cut based on by a game used Steam features (Steam cloud, Steam DRM, Steam multiplayer, VAC, ...) but seem to always decide that, no, it wouldn't; would drive developers away from a unified experience that users want.

Yet. I would still suggest that the amount of money that Valve rakes in seems to be saying that they take too much to make sense currently.

americans have disposable income, it ain't that deep
Chompman Jun 29, 2024 @ 3:02am 
If companies believe it's too high they do not have to use steam as there is a reason the 20%-30% that steam takes is standard.

The digital fee these days is a lot cheaper then it used to be and one of the many reasons games have hardly increased in prices from 30+ years ago and only started to go past the $60 price like they used to cost despite inflation and other factors.
Last edited by Chompman; Jun 29, 2024 @ 3:03am
Crazy Tiger Jun 29, 2024 @ 3:05am 
I think that people are concerning themselves with something that isn't actually all that relevant to them. A lower cut does not result in cheaper or better games.

And before people disagree with that, keep in mind that us old timers have heard that story for decades now...
Yujah Jun 29, 2024 @ 3:07am 
As this particular instance of "people" specified; they're interested from a potential developer standpoint.
Wolfpig Jun 29, 2024 @ 3:11am 
Originally posted by Lucas Puiroud:
Originally posted by Wolfpig:
You don*t know how much the companies would need top pay if they would sell their games in real stores.
Hint: it is more than 30%.

And the search of the board will bring you up year old threads about that, and the conclusion would be, why do you care at all if you do not want to sell stuff here?
I might do a game one day thats why i care about the cut .


Then you should inform yourself about how much you "pay" elsewhere.
And keep every other costs in mind which you will need to pay like taxes.

You could be really surprised at that point if you see that the 30% valve takes are the lesser problem when you can keep 10-20% from the rest.
Crazy Tiger Jun 29, 2024 @ 3:14am 
Originally posted by Yujah:
As this particular instance of "people" specified; they're interested from a potential developer standpoint.
My post was in general, not directed at a specific person. So the post remains as it is.
Ogami Jun 29, 2024 @ 4:28am 
I highly recommend this video by an actual game developer who has their games on Steam explaining how Steam works, what Steam takes and what they, the developers, get in return.
And why Steam is still the best platform for publishing games on PC with a huge lead.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwoAmifo9r0&t

The relevant stuff starts around 1:50.
Last edited by Ogami; Jun 29, 2024 @ 4:30am
Drimon Jun 29, 2024 @ 4:31am 
Are you a Game Dev?
No?

WHY DO YOU EVEN CARE.
IF YOU ONLY KNOW THE SURFACE LVL STUFF DONT TALK ABOUT IT.

You are Not Jesus Christ and should Not Care about Business you dont know anything about
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