ontheprowl 4 MAY 2024 a las 1:01
Massive CPU spikes since the last 2 days, caused by Steam Client Webhelper
Looking like this -> https://imgur.com/SnxVqHh

happening irregularly, every now and then, both on desktop and ingame. Sucks.

Anyone else having noticed that or is something wrong on my end? I didn't change anything though and don't experience any other issues on my system. CPU: i5 13400
Última edición por ontheprowl; 4 MAY 2024 a las 1:04
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ontheprowl 4 MAY 2024 a las 1:06 
everything on ídle, 2% cpu usage, but then every few seconds or minutes, BOOM, the skyscraper appears: https://imgur.com/9ags1jV
LivinLoki 4 MAY 2024 a las 8:18 
I've noticed this recently too. I have 8 of these webhelper things running in the background when i close steam taking up half a gig of memory. There doesn't seem to be any good info out there to get rid of them since I HAVE to have steam running to play these games.
ontheprowl 4 MAY 2024 a las 14:31 
Publicado originalmente por LivinLoki:
I've noticed this recently too. I have 8 of these webhelper things running in the background when i close steam taking up half a gig of memory. There doesn't seem to be any good info out there to get rid of them since I HAVE to have steam running to play these games.
Yeah, well when it comes to RAM usage of Steam, this always have been an issue since the new UI I feel. But it also depends on how much total system memory you have and I guess, just like Windows itself, Steam tends to grab more for itself, the more total memory you have.

However, I also feel it increased since the lsat 2 days, when also the cpu spikes started happening.

Reading through another post here in the community forum, I just deleted this folder -> Steam\userdata\*ID*\config\librarycache

Apperently this would fix the cpu spikes. Can't really tell if it actually did, but will keep you updated. I didn't sit much on the computer since I deleted the folder but so far, nothing is spiking: https://imgur.com/S9205KO
Última edición por ontheprowl; 4 MAY 2024 a las 14:38
Terente22CmRecords 4 MAY 2024 a las 14:46 
its just the steam overall quality goin down
Greenie 4 MAY 2024 a las 20:55 
I have not seen any issues on my end at all, I'm in the north east USA, perhaps it's the fault of a HOP going bad on your ISP maybe ?
MY system specs are
ASUS Z790A Mobo
i9 12900k
64 gb DDR 5
2x 2TB samsung 980 pro
4 TB Barracuda HDD
RTX 4070
27" MSI 4k monitor
Última edición por Greenie; 4 MAY 2024 a las 21:08
Guh~hey~hey~♫ 4 MAY 2024 a las 21:24 
I have the exact same issue. The steamwebhelper service goes into 3KK memory usage and start messing up my computer performances. Also I have 7 of those running at the same time....
Been a couple day since it started.
Última edición por Guh~hey~hey~♫; 4 MAY 2024 a las 21:24
ontheprowl 4 MAY 2024 a las 23:54 
Publicado originalmente por Greenie:
I have not seen any issues on my end at all, I'm in the north east USA, perhaps it's the fault of a HOP going bad on your ISP maybe ?
MY system specs are
ASUS Z790A Mobo
i9 12900k
64 gb DDR 5
2x 2TB samsung 980 pro
4 TB Barracuda HDD
RTX 4070
27" MSI 4k monitor

Interesting idea, but no, it has nothing to do with that.
Zin 5 MAY 2024 a las 2:32 
Same problem here. Thought the issue was my CPU until I started to look closer and saw steam was the problem. Only solution I have is to keep steam off when playing a non-steam game until this is fixed.
ontheprowl 5 MAY 2024 a las 2:54 
Publicado originalmente por Zin:
Same problem here. Thought the issue was my CPU until I started to look closer and saw steam was the problem. Only solution I have is to keep steam off when playing a non-steam game until this is fixed.

Yeah. The fix I mentioned earlier seemed to work at first, but then it came back. It might have gotten better by deleting this whatever-folder, but definitley not fixed.

The solution I'm making use of atm is to just turn off steam completley. Luckily most of my games aren't steam based and I'm realizing why it may be good idea, future wise, to not put all the money on steam with all the games you have. Who knows what one day may happen with this bloatware.

And it is also ridicolous how generally, like even before this current problem, Steam always shows up on top of the process list, every few seconds you see it popping up with 2-3 % use. Sure, not much, but why? Why when you have minizied it entirely? No other program does that, not even chrome.
Última edición por ontheprowl; 5 MAY 2024 a las 2:56
RiO 5 MAY 2024 a las 3:03 
Publicado originalmente por ontheprowl:
Publicado originalmente por Zin:
Same problem here. Thought the issue was my CPU until I started to look closer and saw steam was the problem. Only solution I have is to keep steam off when playing a non-steam game until this is fixed.

Yeah. The fix I mentioned earlier seemed to work at first, but then it came back. It might have gotten better by deleting this whatever-folder, but definitley not fixed.

The solution I'm making use of atm is to just turn off steam completley. Luckily most of my games aren't steam based and I'm realizing why it may be good idea, future wise, to not put all the money on steam with all the games you have. Who knows what one day may happen with this bloatware.

And it is also ridicolous how generally, like even before this current problem, Steam always shows up on top of the process list, every few seconds you see it popping up with 2-3 % use. Sure, not much, but why? Why when you have minizied it entirely? No other program does that, not even chrome.

Because they keep pushing updated data into the library view every few minutes, which triggers React to re-render if the library is still open in the background. (Yes; the library is built on React. Poorly.)
As far as I am aware there are no affordances present like using the
Page Visibility API[developer.mozilla.org] to determine when those updates can halt, because the user is not engaging with the library or Steam client.
It'll just keep going, and going, and going.

It gets progressively worse the bigger your library on display and the more information has to be rendered to the view.

Small experiment:
Remove all your shelves, leave only a small 'currently installed' shelf.
This is what I did and it helped tremendously to reduce the height and duration of those spikes.
It's still annoying as hell, but now it's a 60->58->60 FPS-hickup instead of a 60->50->50->50->60 stutterfest.
Última edición por RiO; 5 MAY 2024 a las 3:06
the creep is consistent since

i reset steam no games playing just reading (1 steam page open) a few post on this forum..
525mb ram usage..

and i have cpu usage bumping around and getting upto 5%.... whats that doing...

my web browser with 10 youtube pages and google open (not running)
is using less to no cpu usage...
ontheprowl 5 MAY 2024 a las 3:17 
Publicado originalmente por RiO:

Because they keep pushing updated data

Interesting, the insight you brought up here. But all I have to say is: it sucks, I mean steam, not your insight! :D

But it actually explains a lot and I'm starting to understand what's going on there. But this is an absolute disaster, to have Steam acting like that, with that nonstop data updates, every 30 seconds or even more frequent.

But it's always like that. Companies start, work hard, get big, become lazy, don't care anymore, think they can get away, while slowly everything turns to ♥♥♥♥.
Última edición por ontheprowl; 5 MAY 2024 a las 3:28
ontheprowl 5 MAY 2024 a las 3:21 
Publicado originalmente por ragefifty50:
the creep is consistent since



and i have cpu usage bumping around and getting upto 5%.... whats that doing...

my web browser with 10 youtube pages and google open (not running)
is using less to no cpu usage...

Exactly that!

Like I said, and now again leaving aside the recent problem that appeared a few days ago, with the massive cpu bursts, up to 80% for tiny second: It annoys me so much, to see all the time Steam pop up with a few percentage. My 13400 isn't necceassarily weak, it doesn't bother the cpu, but it still annoys me. I want a well, optimized system, and a brick like that has no place in what I want my system to be. Yet, there seems to be no way around it but I really start to consider, getting as much games as possible outside of Steam.

Because look, imagine one day Steam pulls off something really bad, doesn't have to be even with the client but just some sort of really annoying function that you're forced to use. So then, either you accept that, or you can't play most of your games anymore.

I don't want that.

Im just going 2000 style and buy my games from now on in the store again, lmao.

I mean no, that's not what im going to do. But I'm starting to miss those days.
Última edición por ontheprowl; 5 MAY 2024 a las 3:23
Publicado originalmente por ontheprowl:
Publicado originalmente por ragefifty50:
the creep is consistent since



and i have cpu usage bumping around and getting upto 5%.... whats that doing...

my web browser with 10 youtube pages and google open (not running)
is using less to no cpu usage...

Exactly that!

Like I said, and now again leaving aside the recent problem that appeared a few days ago, with the massive cpu bursts, up to 80% for tiny second: It annoys me so much, to see all the time Steam pop up with a few percentage. My 13400 isn't necceassarily weak, it doesn't bother the cpu, but it still annoys me. I want a well, optimized system, and a brick like that has no place in what I want my system to be. Yet, there seems to be no way around it but I really start to consider, getting as much games as possible outside of Steam.

Because look, imagine one day Steam pulls off something really bad, doesn't have to be even with the client but just some sort of really annoying function that you're forced to use. So then, either you accept that, or you can't play most of your games anymore.

I don't want that.

Im just going 2000 style and buy my games from now on in the store again, lmao.

I mean no, that's not what im going to do. But I'm starting to miss those days.

we all miss those days of roaming free in game land...

those days are over.... .snap out of it.... - moonstruck

you just need to realise you are a steam prisoner....

you are here to be groomed into the perfect steam customer..

follow the rules... eat get sleep and do whatever steam make you do....

buy games... and if you got time... play them.....

people are getting paid to not fix things at steam...

i want to be able to cap my steam client usage.... simple... ok thats me done...

thanks

:carto_sheep:
ontheprowl 5 MAY 2024 a las 4:03 
Publicado originalmente por ragefifty50:

i want to be able to cap my steam client usage.... simple... ok thats me done...

I literally searched through Github earlier today, to see if someone wrote a little tool to limit steam or put it in its place, resource wise. But there isn't anything really.

Ofc one could use process lasso or an equivalent, to bind Steam to certain cores or limit overall usage...but honestly -> MEH!
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