About Steam Community bans

[SonukYildiz]

Hey, so I had a few warnings and got 2 bans past year because I was goofing in the forum discussions, then I became a good boy.

After 1 year of being clean, I got another ban and I know for a fact that if you get a lot of bans, you might get your community rights revoked, no friends, no trading etc.

So my question is when it may escalate to a permanent community ban? I intend to go full clean and keep participating in discussions but a Damocles' sword hanging on top of my head keeps scaring me ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ and make me consider abandon community discussions altogether

Edit: Also are permanent community bans appealable because I'm scared the fact that I can get banned and losing my multiplayer priviledges permamently

[Brian9824]

Community bans do not effect your games, you can play games and MP with a community ban. It locks out community features like reviewing titles, posting screenshots etc.

There are two ways to get a community ban, being a massive douche on the forums, or for racking up multiple bans on multiple forums in a short time. A permanent community ban is VERY RARE, and they escalate like normal bans starting with 1,3 day, etc for community bans.

To get a community ban your looking at quite a few regular bans needed in a year, or doing something massively bad. Typically users who get community bans have escalated to the point they are getting 2 week or longer forum bans before it gets more severe.

[SonukYildiz]

Originally posted by brian9824:

Community bans do not effect your games, you can play games and MP with a community ban. It locks out community features like reviewing titles, posting screenshots etc.

There are two ways to get a community ban, being a massive douche on the forums, or for racking up multiple bans on multiple forums in a short time. A permanent community ban is VERY RARE, and they escalate like normal bans starting with 1,3 day, etc for community bans.

To get a community ban your looking at quite a few regular bans needed in a year, or doing something massively bad. Typically users who get community bans have escalated to the point they are getting 2 week or longer forum bans before it gets more severe.

That's a refreshing answer, thank you!

About the multiplayer, I know it won't prevent me playing MP yet being not able to have friends is dealbreaker for me, that in my opinipn renders steam as moot. It would be great to know if I mess up badly there is a chance of redemption with appealing and not commiting inflammatory act in community

[xBCxRangers]

A Community Ban happens when you accumulate more than one ban, in a very short period.

Example, you get banned from a game hub, come here with a post to complain about it, and get banned shortly after, that will constitute a community ban.

For the record, i have been banned roughly 43 times, and only once did i ever get a Community Ban, that lasted about 2 days. Doesn't at all affect gameplay.

In short, very rare. I think Bans people really have to worry about, is Cheating or VAC bans. THAT can be a very serious issue i would think (never happened to me), but these chat bans are mostly nonsense.

[Doctor Zalgo]

Originally posted by xBCxRangers:

Example, you get banned from a game hub, come here with a post to complain about it, and get banned shortly after, that will constitute a community ban.

We also had that guy who got banned from one gamehub and decided to do a tour of all of the devs other games complaining about it which was just brilliant strategy when you think about it. (i.e. Giving the people that you claim have it out for you a loaded gun, aiming it at your head and daring them to pull the trigger.)

[Shreddy]

The problem with community bans is that they are affected by game forums with third party moderators (many of whom don’t even sell or giveaway games on steam anymore) who have their own set of arbitrary rules so it becomes impossible for a paying customer to avoid bans and possibly a community wide ban.

If the entire platform had one set of rules everyone could follow it wouldn’t be a problem but when you can be banned for asking why an Easter event was removed or stating you prefer to create male characters in character creation screens etc depending on the game it’s just descends into madness.

Valve either need to make it so that any and all bans made by third parties are reviewed by a valve employee to ensure that no admin abuse has taken place or better still just remove the community wide ban altogether, if a dev doesn’t want someone in their sad little corner of the internet then let them have it but the idea that they can affect the functionality of a paying customers steam account to the point they can can’t even edit their own profile is wrong and just ends up costing valve thousands of support tickets from players rightfully complaining about it.

[Brian9824]

Originally posted by Shreddy:

The problem with community bans is that they are affected by game forums with third party moderators (many of whom don’t even sell or giveaway games on steam anymore) who have their own set of arbitrary rules so it becomes impossible for a paying customer to avoid bans and possibly a community wide ban.

If the entire platform had one set of rules everyone could follow it wouldn’t be a problem but when you can be banned for asking why an Easter event was removed or stating you prefer to create male characters in character creation screens etc depending on the game it’s just descends into madness.

Valve either need to make it so that any and all bans made by third parties are reviewed by a valve employee to ensure that no admin abuse has taken place or better still just remove the community wide ban altogether, if a dev doesn’t want someone in their sad little corner of the internet then let them have it but the idea that they can affect the functionality of a paying customers steam account to the point they can can’t even edit their own profile is wrong and just ends up costing valve thousands of support tickets from players rightfully complaining about it.

I mean in 21 years i've never had a community ban, its really not that hard to avoid being banned in multiple forums......

[veracsthane]

the simple truth is you offended someone that is issuing reports because they are offended.

you can be 100% right they are offended and reporting you for no other reason then they disagree with you and are offended.

the insult to injury from steam is you can ban the people making reports in quite alot of cases for mass false flagging.

remember the sbi tracker? ya steam would have taken it down if the owners didnt mute the talking for the tracker. they would have taken it down because the babies who are a problem love to report anything that offends them. its why the insane comment about how they have so many reports to go through is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ to defend them from the consequences of a self inflicted wound.

the people who are the fundemental problem with all of this are stalkers. when steam decides to blow its own head off and go full sjw the stalkers will just keep following us to next platform. they also love the report function and utterly ignore the block function. its also why the instant you stop posting in certian topics or sub forums the false flagging false bans stop. you offended a psychopath stalker who is false flagging and steam knows but literally doesnt care or try to stop obvious problems. there is no way someone reporting as much as some of these people do are good faith actors. its literally why context matters.



when they tell you they had multiple people affirming the ban was issued correctly they are lying to your face and i know because they did have to bring in others to actually take a look and the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ has stopped only because others where finally brought in and the flase flaggers got slapped for their behavior as they should have months before they did.


why is it diffrent for developers? because the developers are telling you to your face they dont want your money. they value the problems more then you and they will go out of business if you just listen and walk away because no one likes the problems and 4 people who only play in a 4 man premade cant float a company. it sucks but if both the players and the devs are that far gone its the only real response you get have if you want things to change.

[veracsthane]

Originally posted by xBCxRangers:

A Community Ban happens when you accumulate more than one ban, in a very short period.

Example, you get banned from a game hub, come here with a post to complain about it, and get banned shortly after, that will constitute a community ban.

For the record, i have been banned roughly 43 times, and only once did i ever get a Community Ban, that lasted about 2 days. Doesn't at all affect gameplay.

In short, very rare. I think Bans people really have to worry about, is Cheating or VAC bans. THAT can be a very serious issue i would think (never happened to me), but these chat bans are mostly nonsense.

doesnt effect gameplay yet...

it will once gab dies and they decide to lock accounts and steal libraries.

in the end every dev should have their own store front and steam is just gaming walmart. its great until the obvious problems start.

[DEAD MEAT]

It must take about at least a few hundred Bans for that to happen. (Topic)
Specific Game creators like DCS might boot you permanently from their Forum because they use nothing but lolly pops and sunshine shoved up everybody's ass to sell the stuff, so at the second what they deem negative anything your done there (as an example) but overall it's gotta take like a few hundred bans or some really weird stuff to get all community privileges yanked.
Let's just face it STEAM is populated with mostly cry-babies that will run to Mommy over any little thing ... God forbid you talk (type) at em' like Adults. In fact if you ain't getting banned every now and then ... your doing it wrong.

[Waryth]

Originally posted by veracsthane:

the simple truth is you offended someone that is issuing reports because they are offended.

you can be 100% right they are offended and reporting you for no other reason then they disagree with you and are offended.

Your posts gets deleted for violating the rules and even get banned for it. It's simple as that not because someone got offended over anything.

IF you say anything that isn't against the rules then there's nothing to worry about.

Your freedom of speech doesn't mean you have freedom to insult or harm anyone else. Same goes with owning a firearm, doesn't grant you any rights to take someone's life at your own whim.

[veracsthane]

Originally posted by Waryth:

Originally posted by veracsthane:

the simple truth is you offended someone that is issuing reports because they are offended.

you can be 100% right they are offended and reporting you for no other reason then they disagree with you and are offended.

Your posts gets deleted for violating the rules and even get banned for it. It's simple as that not because someone got offended over anything.

IF you say anything that isn't against the rules then there's nothing to worry about.

Your freedom of speech doesn't mean you have freedom to insult or harm anyone else. Same goes with owning a firearm, doesn't grant you any rights to take someone's life at your own whim.

no it literally only gets deleted because a rando was offended and reported it. with out that the entire process literally doesnt even start.

if you are offended understand you are offended. the rest of us largely dont care.

[Waryth]

Originally posted by veracsthane:

no it literally only gets deleted because a rando was offended and reported it. with out that the entire process literally doesnt even start.

if you are offended understand you are offended. the rest of us largely dont care.

Ah yes, so your twisted logic goes like this:

"It's not illegal if someone doesn't see you doing it and report you to the proper authorities."

Get lost, you don't know the rules and are ignorant by it. IGNORANCE OF THE LAW EXCUSES NO ONE.

You're the type of person who'll get banned and wonders why they're banned then make a fuss about abuse and pretend to be a victim when clearly you're not. You then twist the narrative of your story and manipulate the whole ordeal and make someone else believe your story to get back at em'.

It's all a child's trick.

If you got banned, it's a simple legal way of saying we don't want you here around anymore due to your unacceptable behaviour.

[Shreddy]

Originally posted by brian9824:

Originally posted by Shreddy:

The problem with community bans is that they are affected by game forums with third party moderators (many of whom don’t even sell or giveaway games on steam anymore) who have their own set of arbitrary rules so it becomes impossible for a paying customer to avoid bans and possibly a community wide ban.

If the entire platform had one set of rules everyone could follow it wouldn’t be a problem but when you can be banned for asking why an Easter event was removed or stating you prefer to create male characters in character creation screens etc depending on the game it’s just descends into madness.

Valve either need to make it so that any and all bans made by third parties are reviewed by a valve employee to ensure that no admin abuse has taken place or better still just remove the community wide ban altogether, if a dev doesn’t want someone in their sad little corner of the internet then let them have it but the idea that they can affect the functionality of a paying customers steam account to the point they can can’t even edit their own profile is wrong and just ends up costing valve thousands of support tickets from players rightfully complaining about it.

I mean in 21 years i've never had a community ban, its really not that hard to avoid being banned in multiple forums......

That would depend entirely on how active one is one the forums, an increased amount of forum posts is what would increase the chances of being community banned, not how many years an account has existed. I’ve had at least 10 community bans and every single one was easily overturned by contacting steam support who agreed that the bans were unwarranted and that I was a victim of admin abuse so it’s obviously a major problem on the platform.

As mentioned above there is no objective set of rules to abide by so the argument of just behaving is nonsense as it’s impossible to know what’s acceptable behaviour. Most reasonable people would agree that asking why a seasonal event was removed from a game doesn’t require a lifetime ban from a it’s forum but unfortunately due to valve allowing third parties to run rampant it’s the reality of this platform. That’s why myself and many people have suggested removing the community ban function and simply allowing devs to only influence their own game forums, not the functionality of a steam customers profile.

[Knee]

Originally posted by Shreddy:

Originally posted by brian9824:

I mean in 21 years i've never had a community ban, its really not that hard to avoid being banned in multiple forums......

That would depend entirely on how active one is one the forums, an increased amount of forum posts is what would increase the chances of being community banned, not how many years an account has existed.

Don’t look at his post history and don’t look at how many pages worth of post history as well.

[Brian9824]

Originally posted by smmcresident:

Actually permanent community bans are also 100% dependant on developer discretion. No warning. No reason. No recourse to appeal to Steam moderation. Feel free to check out the Long Dark forum. The developer, long absent from the forum, arrived to lock any threads not complimentary to the developer’s long history of missing deadlines. He then permanently banned multiple active participants from the forum. It will be quite obvious reading the locked threads and the missing posts. So if one guy gets his feelings hurt he can declare the participants or threads toxic and close it all down. Careful what you say out there.

A permanent ban from a forum is not a community ban