Why Steam

[Ford]

Im wondering why Steam is asking users to accept contract which says "Steam is Subscription".
I thought Steam is simple store. Yet Steam says it is subscription. What am I getting with this subscription and is there some catch? Are big discounts on games not avaible on other stores part of this subscription?

[Slav Mcgopnik]

What subscription and contract are you talking about? Who is telling you this and and where are you seeing it?

[Ford]

Originally posted by Slav Mcgopnik:

What subscription and contract are you talking about? Who is telling you this and and where are you seeing it?

https://store.steampowered.com/subscriber_agreement/

[WolfEisberg]

Originally posted by Slav Mcgopnik:

What subscription and contract are you talking about? Who is telling you this and and where are you seeing it?

He is getting it from this

https://store.steampowered.com/subscriber_agreement/

When we purchase a game on Steam, it's considered as a subscription to the game.

[Slav Mcgopnik]

Originally posted by WolfEisberg:

Originally posted by Slav Mcgopnik:

What subscription and contract are you talking about? Who is telling you this and and where are you seeing it?

He is getting it from this

https://store.steampowered.com/subscriber_agreement/

When we purchase a game on Steam, it's considered as a subscription to the game.

Untrue, section 2A clarifies you buy a license, not a subscription.

[Zoltan]

Do you want to own your games or just rent them long term?

You can lose access to your game at any point on steam.

[WolfEisberg]

Originally posted by Slav Mcgopnik:

Originally posted by WolfEisberg:

He is getting it from this

https://store.steampowered.com/subscriber_agreement/

When we purchase a game on Steam, it's considered as a subscription to the game.

Untrue, section 2A clarifies you buy a license, not a subscription.

Nope, your subscription to a game includes a license for the game, but it's still very much a subscription as put forth in Section 1.

[Brian9824]

In this context a license or subscription means the same thing. Whether you view it as purchasing a license, or paying a one time fee for a permanent subscription you get exactly the same thing.

Trying to nitpick over what its called is splitting hairs.

[Zoltan]

Fact is you don't own your games. You can lose access to them at any point that Steam or the devs decide to remove your access.

[Brian9824]

Originally posted by Zoltan:

Fact is you don't own your games. You can lose access to them at any point that Steam or the devs decide to remove your access.

The fact is you never owned games, the only difference is that companies have the ability to actually enforce the licensing terms now more effectively. Even back in the day back with games like Starcraft and Diablo they required keys that could be revoked to render the product unusable.

Nothing has changed except the ability to enforce those rules. Not to mention that with around ~100,000 games on steam you can count on 1 hand the number of titles that removed games from people's libraries where it was unwarranted and not a mistake that was quickly fixed.

In 21 years for instance its never happened to me once.

[nullable]

Originally posted by lizard criminal:

Im wondering why Steam is asking users to accept contract which says "Steam is Subscription".
I thought Steam is simple store. Yet Steam says it is subscription. What am I getting with this subscription and is there some catch? Are big discounts on games not avaible on other stores part of this subscription?

If you have trouble understanding the language used in the agreement, maybe you should have a lawyer specializing in software and user agreements explain it to you. You trying to litigate it as a layman with randos on Steam may not lead to a better understanding.

Any time you get hung up a word and what you assume it means, that almost certainly means that's a you problem, not a problem with the agreement.

[xBCxRangers]

Steam is a Lease Agreement service under the guise of a Game Store. In short, it's a sham. That's why it's worded that way.

[Zoltan]

The fact that you need a lawyer to buy a game is a problem.

[Aachen]

Originally posted by Zoltan:

The fact that you need a lawyer to buy a game is a problem.

No lawyers are needed.

[Boblin the Goblin]

Originally posted by xBCxRangers:

Steam is a Lease Agreement service under the guise of a Game Store. In short, it's a sham. That's why it's worded that way.

Same agreement all digital stores have.

Even consoles.

[nullable]

Originally posted by Zoltan:

The fact that you need a lawyer to buy a game is a problem.

You might.

That doesn't project onto millions of other users who don't get fixated on inane details and want to argue from ignorance.