Steam on Xbox

[Citizen Cook]

The internet is buzzing over Phil Spencer’s latest comments to Polygon with many speculating that he’s alluding to the idea of opening up the Xbox consoles to allow other storefronts like Steam to work on the currently closed platform.

I think this would be great. We see developers targeting Steam Deck and the benefits of developing for a fixed platform, the same benefits would obviously apply to Xbox.
But how would Microsoft monetise this?

Personally, I’m clambering for a Steam console and this would be the next best thing.

Thoughts?

https://www.polygon.com/24108670/xbox-epic-games-store-phil-spencer-interview

[Dr.Shadowds 🐉]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von ellis gaming:

doesn't geforce now exist or did that shut down?

It exist, but if want more playtime, and faster queue time you have to pay up, which basically you're better off just buying a PC that you can have access at all times, access to all games, and it hardware you actually own.

[Boblin the Goblin]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von MonkehMaster:

run steam/pc games on xbox? i

not sure how that would work and if it did, it might not run very well.

It wouldn't.

It needs to be coded differently even though the Xbox essentially uses Windows 11.

[Boblin the Goblin]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von xBCxRangers:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von ellis gaming:

doesn't geforce now exist?

Yes, the only issue there, is you only have the games they provide thru Steam (Epic, Game Pass, etc). You don't have access to your whole library. If we did, i likely would not even be on this forum, at all.

"Steam on Xbox" would be the exact same way.

A great majority of games on Steam do not have an Xbox port.

[xBCxRangers]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Dr.Shadowds 🐉:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von ellis gaming:

doesn't geforce now exist or did that shut down?

It exist, but if want more playtime, and faster queue time you have to pay up, which basically you're better off just buying a PC that you can have access at all times, access to all games, and it hardware you actually own.

Dude, its 50 usd a year. You gotta catch the sales. That's the best service to ever happen in modern gaming. In fact, it's so successful, they cant meet the demand. The fellas over in Europe are on a reservation.

[The Commendatore]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von brian9824:

Its pretty funny to see xbox fall so far. Combined with their other comments about how they have considered dropping out of the console race, multiple developers saying they see no reason to support xbox, etc its not looking very good for Microsoft's future.

Xbox is sinking apparently and the future of the system is very much at risk

Yup.

[Komarimaru]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von xBCxRangers:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Dr.Shadowds 🐉:

It exist, but if want more playtime, and faster queue time you have to pay up, which basically you're better off just buying a PC that you can have access at all times, access to all games, and it hardware you actually own.

Dude, its 50 usd a year. You gotta catch the sales. That's the best service to ever happen in modern gaming. In fact, it's so successful, they cant meet the demand. The fellas over in Europe are on a reservation.

Again, that's because clusters are for people who pay far more, institutions and businesses. GeForce Now is just idle work clusters to play your games lol.

[Brian9824]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von xBCxRangers:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von brian9824:

Again that isn't even accurate. Please actually research your sources before posting. Sony is worth over a hundred billion, and net worth of a company doesn't matter when you are talking about sales.

I mean how many new releases are you buying on HD-DVD discs, or how many songs do you listen to on your Zune? Having more capital doesn't stop your product from failing and disappearing when its not as good as your competitors.

I don't use any of those.

Well yeah, if you claimed you did you would be lying as they are all Microsoft products from a company with far more money then others that failed and died off because those companies with less money made a better product.

Just like how the PS5 is outselling the xbox 3:1 and why multiple developers have been discussing that there is no point in even developing games for the xbox anymore.

I mean

https://www.ign.com/articles/xbox-series-x-and-s-sales-have-collapsed-in-europe

PS5 sales up 143%
Xbox sales down 52%

The market is great for consoles, its just no one wants the Xbox

The xbox is quite literally on life support with the plug about to be pulled on it in EU as its lost over there big time. Part of the issue is Xbox's biggest titles got cannibalized because of gamepass and PC releases. In their haste to build gamepass, they killed their own console.

[xBCxRangers]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Komarimaru:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von xBCxRangers:

Dude, its 50 usd a year. You gotta catch the sales. That's the best service to ever happen in modern gaming. In fact, it's so successful, they cant meet the demand. The fellas over in Europe are on a reservation.

Again, that's because clusters are for people who pay far more, institutions and businesses. GeForce Now is just idle work clusters to play your games lol.

Do you know what it means, for a console noob like me, to be able to get access to games, i was told for years, it would cost me an arm and a leg for a PC to play?

Arma 3, ATS, M&B, and so many others, including, the Steam Workshop. Which enhances games, like Mudrunner and others. With controller and keyboard support.

No folders. No crashes. No headaches. It's like playing a console game.

And for 50 bucks a year? Do i need games on 1080p tv, to play at 4k and 120,000 frames a second? No.

Do i need keep upgrading OS whenever MS and Mr Newell get an itch? No.

All, on an Xbox One.

I dare say, Streaming is the future of video gaming.

[Boblin the Goblin]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von xBCxRangers:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Komarimaru:

Again, that's because clusters are for people who pay far more, institutions and businesses. GeForce Now is just idle work clusters to play your games lol.

Do you know what it means, for a console noob like me, to be able to get access to games, i was told for years, it would cost me an arm and a leg for a PC to play?

Arma 3, ATS, M&B, and so many others, including, the Steam Workshop. Which enhances games, like Mudrunner and others. With controller and keyboard support.

And for 50 bucks a year? Do i need games on 1080p tv, to play at 4k and 120,000 frames a second? No.

Do i need keep upgrading OS whenever MS and Mr Newell get an itch? No.

All, on an Xbox One.

I dare say, Streaming is the future of video gaming.

$600 maybe every like 8 years is "an arm and a leg"? In fact it would probably be less since updating the OS is usually free.

Streaming isn't the future.

[MonkehMaster]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von xBCxRangers:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Komarimaru:

Again, that's because clusters are for people who pay far more, institutions and businesses. GeForce Now is just idle work clusters to play your games lol.

Do you know what it means, for a console noob like me, to be able to get access to games, i was told for years, it would cost me an arm and a leg for a PC to play?

Arma 3, ATS, M&B, and so many others, including, the Steam Workshop. Which enhances games, like Mudrunner and others. With controller and keyboard support.

No folders. No crashes. No headaches. It's like playing a console game.

And for 50 bucks a year? Do i need games on 1080p tv, to play at 4k and 120,000 frames a second? No.

Do i need keep upgrading OS whenever MS and Mr Newell get an itch? No.

All, on an Xbox One.

I dare say, Streaming is the future of video gaming.

streaming games may work for some, but you are limited severly.

cant play modded games is the big factor for most "gamers", thats why streaming has never really gone anywhere.

bad latency is also another.

but if it helps some, then thats great, though i dont thinks its going to be anything big.

heck google tried, think there was another?

only thing i know still doing it is geforce.

[Boblin the Goblin]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von MonkehMaster:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von xBCxRangers:

Do you know what it means, for a console noob like me, to be able to get access to games, i was told for years, it would cost me an arm and a leg for a PC to play?

Arma 3, ATS, M&B, and so many others, including, the Steam Workshop. Which enhances games, like Mudrunner and others. With controller and keyboard support.

No folders. No crashes. No headaches. It's like playing a console game.

And for 50 bucks a year? Do i need games on 1080p tv, to play at 4k and 120,000 frames a second? No.

Do i need keep upgrading OS whenever MS and Mr Newell get an itch? No.

All, on an Xbox One.

I dare say, Streaming is the future of video gaming.

streaming games may work for some, but you are limited severly.

cant play modded games is the big factor for most "gamers", thats why streaming has never really gone anywhere.

bad latency is also another.

but if it helps some, then thats great, though i dont thinks its going to be anything big.

heck google tried, think there was another?

only thig i know still doing it is geforce.

It's weird how GeForce was able to get it right. From what I've heard, it's little to no latency, stable connections with decent internet, and some games do allow mod support.

But, the hangup being, you can't access all of your library.

I think it's great if you are always traveling or, with the new family sharing, have kids and don't want to get another computer.

[Dr.Shadowds 🐉]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von xBCxRangers:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Dr.Shadowds 🐉:

It exist, but if want more playtime, and faster queue time you have to pay up, which basically you're better off just buying a PC that you can have access at all times, access to all games, and it hardware you actually own.

Dude, its 50 usd a year. You gotta catch the sales. That's the best service to ever happen in modern gaming. In fact, it's so successful, they cant meet the demand. The fellas over in Europe are on a reservation.

Prices are not fixed, and this can change, it's just like netflix that keeps raising their prices whenever they want. Also check out there day pass, no really check it out, they're testing the waters right now, and might do daily, and weekly, so can see the problem what I'm referring to.
https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce-now/#product-matrix

Also the plan is $50 for 6 months not a year, it's $100 a year, and high package plan that $200 a year.

6hrs vs 8hrs play time
queue tiers
higher fps & resolution

So 5 years paid $500 ~ $1000 if they don't charge more later, or get PC that in your budget $300 ~ $1000 and don't even have to think about anything for next 10 to 15 years basically, you have more control, access, and more that couldn't do via cloud gaming that limits you from doing things on it. Example if want to mod your game, you can't do that on Nvidia cloud, it forces you to just launch the game as is, nothing else, same with not allowing you to play games you want, and you had to buy the games on top of that in order even play them in the 1st place nvida the cloud service. Like if Nvidia was a gamepass it would've been a decent deal, but it doesn't as it only allow you to play what you had bought.

[MonkehMaster]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von SlowMango:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von MonkehMaster:

streaming games may work for some, but you are limited severly.

cant play modded games is the big factor for most "gamers", thats why streaming has never really gone anywhere.

bad latency is also another.

but if it helps some, then thats great, though i dont thinks its going to be anything big.

heck google tried, think there was another?

only thig i know still doing it is geforce.

It's weird how GeForce was able to get it right. From what I've heard, it's little to no latency, stable connections with decent internet, and some games do allow mod support.

But, the hangup being, you can't access all of your library.

oh, thats cool... back when stadia came out, modding was said to not work.

but then again i never tried so i wouldnt be 100% sure.

[xBCxRangers]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von SlowMango:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von xBCxRangers:

Do you know what it means, for a console noob like me, to be able to get access to games, i was told for years, it would cost me an arm and a leg for a PC to play?

Arma 3, ATS, M&B, and so many others, including, the Steam Workshop. Which enhances games, like Mudrunner and others. With controller and keyboard support.

And for 50 bucks a year? Do i need games on 1080p tv, to play at 4k and 120,000 frames a second? No.

Do i need keep upgrading OS whenever MS and Mr Newell get an itch? No.

All, on an Xbox One.

I dare say, Streaming is the future of video gaming.

$600 maybe every like 8 years is "an arm and a leg"? In fact it would probably be less since updating the OS is usually free.

Streaming isn't the future.

And all the headaches that go with it. Game crashes. Post your specs. Post a crash report. Anti Virus. New graphic cards. Cheaters, Hackers. All can be negated, with a small fee, of 50 usd a year.

I know as much about video gaming, as you know the law. Therefore, for casuals like myself, we're not buying PCs. We're not relying on Steam customers services and forums when there are issues, being thrown to the wolves.

To have the quality games PC offers, that Triple A does not, with controller support, a modest cost, Mod access, and little to no headache, accessed thru last generational Xbox, is def the way to go, for my and i dare say, many others needs.

[xBCxRangers]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Dr.Shadowds 🐉:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von xBCxRangers:

Dude, its 50 usd a year. You gotta catch the sales. That's the best service to ever happen in modern gaming. In fact, it's so successful, they cant meet the demand. The fellas over in Europe are on a reservation.

Prices are not fixed, and this can change, it's just like netflix that keeps raising their prices whenever they want. Also check out there day pass, no really check it out, they're testing the waters right now, and might do daily, and weekly, so can see the problem what I'm referring to.
https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce-now/#product-matrix

Also the plan is $50 for 6 months not a year, it's $100 a year, and high package plan that $200 a year.

6hrs vs 8hrs play time
queue tiers
higher fps & resolution

So 5 years paid $500 ~ $1000 if they don't charge more later, or get PC that in your budget $300 ~ $1000 and don't even have to think about anything for next 10 to 15 years basically, you have more control, access, and more that couldn't do via cloud gaming that limits you from doing things on it. Example if want to mod your game, you can't do that on Nvidia cloud, it forces you to just launch the game as is, nothing else, same with not allowing you to play games you want, and you had to buy the games on top of that in order even play them in the 1st place nvida the cloud service. Like if Nvidia was a gamepass it would've been a decent deal, but it doesn't as it only allow you to play what you had bought.

Well i said you have to look for the sales. I pay 50 a year, being there's always a sale. And i can't play games more than 6 hours at a pop. And even if i did, all that happens, is you just restart the game. There are no queus for paid service.

And yes, you get the Mods from the Workshop. And every time you start the game, they load. And best off, if it's unsupported or don't work, it's in red, and just don't load. No crashes, nothing.

I would tell you to try the free service, but it's so popular, it'll take you 6 hours just to get in the game.

The issue here, as to what Spencer and Newell can work on, is having Xbox Stream, play Steam games, and sort of bite into GFN.

I was always wondering, how Xbox makes money. They're always giving free games. They're giving you access to Steam, to buy the game cheaper there, to play thru GFN. They have Game Pass, and so nobody buys the games no more. And you can even play that on PC or GFN.
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And so it's no surprise to me, they're not doing well.

All Xbox has become for me, is a cheap PC, that i use to play past games i already bought and have, and Edge to get GFN and Steam.