Steam on Xbox

[Citizen Cook]

The internet is buzzing over Phil Spencer’s latest comments to Polygon with many speculating that he’s alluding to the idea of opening up the Xbox consoles to allow other storefronts like Steam to work on the currently closed platform.

I think this would be great. We see developers targeting Steam Deck and the benefits of developing for a fixed platform, the same benefits would obviously apply to Xbox.
But how would Microsoft monetise this?

Personally, I’m clambering for a Steam console and this would be the next best thing.

Thoughts?

https://www.polygon.com/24108670/xbox-epic-games-store-phil-spencer-interview

[xBCxRangers]

引用自 SlowMango：

引用自 xBCxRangers：

Well that's a pretty significant "day dream" for it to end up over at CMA and/or the FTC.

It didn't.

Microsoft never tried to purchase Steam or Valve. The FTC was for their purchase of Activision-Blizzard.

Didn't those email disclosures of Mr Spencers wishes and "daydreams" come out during the time of those hearings?

[Tralalero Tralala]

Honestly i came to pc gaming in 2013-2014 from the xbox 360.

xbox is basically committing soduku to their brand by allowing steam onto the xbox. I literally left xbox because they didnt have good exclusives.

[Boblin the Goblin]

引用自 xBCxRangers：

引用自 SlowMango：

It didn't.

Microsoft never tried to purchase Steam or Valve. The FTC was for their purchase of Activision-Blizzard.

Didn't those email disclosures of Mr Spencers wishes and "daydreams" come out during the time of those hearings?

Because that's how investigations work.

The FTC hearing was over the purchase of Activision-Blizzard. Part of the hearing was investigating internal communications. Guess what emails count as?

Internal communications.

[xBCxRangers]

引用自 Ervil Lebaron：

Honestly i came to pc gaming in 2013-2014 from the xbox 360.

xbox is basically committing soduku to their brand by allowing steam onto the xbox. I literally left xbox because they didnt have good exclusives.

Well, are anyone really coming out with great exclusives lately? We're just in a huge lull in gaming right now imo.

But wouldn't it be great, to go to the Steam App on a 300 dollar Xbox, and get access to your whole library? That would be a selling point i would think.

[xBCxRangers]

Maybe the techies can answer, in that Xbox can try and put a Win 11 Desktop on their new consoles, and just access the whole thing?

Meaning, Steam, Epic, others, without having to make any deals, with anyone. That would be a selling point as well i would think.

[Boblin the Goblin]

引用自 xBCxRangers：

Maybe the techies can answer, in that Xbox can try and put a Win 11 Desktop on their new consoles, and just access the whole thing?

Meaning, Steam, Epic, others, without having to make any deals, with anyone. That would be a selling point as well i would think.

That's called a PC.

Glad to see you admit your were wrong about the assumption that Microsoft was brought to the FTC over a passive comment in an email though.

[Brian9824]

引用自 xBCxRangers：

引用自 brian9824：

That claim seems light on logic, Microsoft games don't even account for .1% of steam's games or revenues. So the claim that without Microsoft there would be no steam has no actual basis in fact.

Microsoft has no say in Steam, no matter how much Phil Spencer wishes he could own it.

Quite frankly, idk if its a question of Phil Spencer. He only would have iterated, what he thought was possible due to the talk of the honchos over at MS.

Again light on logic. if you read the actual letter it was primarily about them wishing they could buy Nintendo, but agreeing that it wasn't possible. So the exact opposite of what you claim.

In fact they explicitly said they did not see a way to do it, and that they would play the long game and IF an oppurtunity ever arose in the future to aquire Nintendo they might take it. So clearly they saw no oppurtunity to do so.

It's funny how people forget the letter was focused on Nintendo, not steam and that Valve was mentioned in passing as being something they wished they could do and would possibly pursue if they ever had an oppurtunity.

I mean heck, i'd buy both Microsoft and Valve if the opportunity presents itself. That doesn't remotely imply that its possible....

Microsoft over the years has talked about buying basically everyone like EA, blizzard, etc. You'd be hard pressed to name a major company that hasn't come up at least once with them wanting to buy and not being able to.

引用自 xBCxRangers：

And Mr Newell is not getting any younger. The truth of it is, who knows what's possible atp, but nothing can be dismissed in the enviornment we find ourselves today.

It's a good thing then that this isn't a Monarchy and Steam's life isn't tied to that of Mr Newell who is not heavily involved in the day to day operations of Steam and doesn't even live in the same country where Steam is headquartered and its workers live.

引用自 xBCxRangers：

引用自 SlowMango：

He was the one who said it in the email. There was no talk from 'head honchos'.

It was him daydreaming.

Well that's a pretty significant "day dream" for it to end up over at CMA and/or the FTC.

Except it never ended up with the FTC as they never moved on Nintendo or Valve as they had no way to buy them. It remained nothing but a day dream, something they have REPEATEDLY done with other companies.

https://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2018/01/29/rumor-microsoft-looking-at-electronic-arts-as-possible-acquisition-target.aspx

[xBCxRangers]

引用自 SlowMango：

引用自 xBCxRangers：

Maybe the techies can answer, in that Xbox can try and put a Win 11 Desktop on their new consoles, and just access the whole thing?

Meaning, Steam, Epic, others, without having to make any deals, with anyone. That would be a selling point as well i would think.

That's called a PC.

Glad to see you admit your were wrong about the assumption that Microsoft was brought to the FTC over a passive comment in an email though.

So was this apparently...

https://www.ebay.com/itm/176204789829

And idk where i said, anything, about MS being brought to the FTC over a passive comment. I claimed the email was retrieved, during the FTC, CMA hearings.

[Boblin the Goblin]

引用自 xBCxRangers：

引用自 SlowMango：

That's called a PC.

So was this apparently...

https://www.ebay.com/itm/176204789829

And idk where i said, anything, about the MS being brought to the FTC over a passive comment. I claimed the email was retrieved, during the FTC, CMA hearings.

So you aren't implying that those emails were part of the reason for the FTC hearing here?

引用自 xBCxRangers：

引用自 SlowMango：

He was the one who said it in the email. There was no talk from 'head honchos'.

It was him daydreaming.

Well that's a pretty significant "day dream" for it to end up over at CMA and/or the FTC.

Yes, that was a PC. Just pre-built in a console form factor. After all, the first run just had Windows on it until they could finish SteamOS. Which was just Linux and still allowed all the same functionality that Linux does.

[Brian9824]

引用自 xBCxRangers：

引用自 SlowMango：

That's called a PC.

Glad to see you admit your were wrong about the assumption that Microsoft was brought to the FTC over a passive comment in an email though.

So was this apparently...

https://www.ebay.com/itm/176204789829

And idk where i said, anything, about MS being brought to the FTC over a passive comment. I claimed the email was retrieved, during the FTC, CMA hearings.

I mean emails about the toilets backing up in the bathrooms were also "retrieved" during the FTC hearings. Thats what happens when you get a chunk of internal memo's, you get a ton of stuff that is not relevant to anything the FTC is looking into and thus trying to imply the FTC was involved in what the email was being discussed is disingenuous at best.

Also yes, that is what is commonly known as a PC aka a personal computer. Although its severely limited and inferior to other similar PC's.

[xBCxRangers]

引用自 SlowMango：

引用自 xBCxRangers：

So was this apparently...

https://www.ebay.com/itm/176204789829

And idk where i said, anything, about the MS being brought to the FTC over a passive comment. I claimed the email was retrieved, during the FTC, CMA hearings.

So you aren't implying that those emails were part of the reason for the FTC hearing here?

引用自 xBCxRangers：

Well that's a pretty significant "day dream" for it to end up over at CMA and/or the FTC.

Yes, that was a PC. Just pre-built in a console form factor. After all, the first run just had Windows on it until they could finish SteamOS. Which was just Linux and still allowed all the same functionality that Linux does.

No, i wasn't implying that, in fact i said this...

引用自 xBCxRangers：

引用自 SlowMango：

It didn't.

Microsoft never tried to purchase Steam or Valve. The FTC was for their purchase of Activision-Blizzard.

Didn't those email disclosures of Mr Spencers wishes and "daydreams" come out during the time of those hearings?

That doesn't at all mean the "cause" or part of the hearings, but at the time of the hearings.

As far as the "PC" console i provided, MS can do the same i would think. Can they not?

[Boblin the Goblin]

引用自 xBCxRangers：

引用自 SlowMango：

So you aren't implying that those emails were part of the reason for the FTC hearing here?



Yes, that was a PC. Just pre-built in a console form factor. After all, the first run just had Windows on it until they could finish SteamOS. Which was just Linux and still allowed all the same functionality that Linux does.

No, i wasn't implying that, in fact i said this...

引用自 xBCxRangers：

Didn't those email disclosures of Mr Spencers wishes and "daydreams" come out during the time of those hearings?

That doesn't at all mean the "cause" of the hearings, but at the time of the hearings.

Then it was completely irrelevant to say they were significant specifically because they got leaked during the hearings.

引用自 xBCxRangers：

As far as the "PC" console i provided, MS can do the same i would think. Can they not?

It would literally just be a PC.

In fact, you could build a PC like that for cheaper than what any prebuilt would be sold for. You can also upgrade and change out parts without having to buy a whole new one.

Also, you would have to update your OS to keep using Steam like you do now as well.

[Brian9824]

引用自 xBCxRangers：

As far as the "PC" console i provided, MS can do the same i would think. Can they not?

Anyone can, its just a PC, although they'd be stupid to do the same thing as that. Then again, microsoft has a history of dumb moves so they might very well be stupid enough to do the same thing.

Well to be more accurate what you linked is more akin to a laptop then a PC with how its designed with the hardware it uses.

[xBCxRangers]

引用自 SlowMango：

引用自 xBCxRangers：

No, i wasn't implying that, in fact i said this...



That doesn't at all mean the "cause" of the hearings, but at the time of the hearings.

Then it was completely irrelevant to say they were significant specifically because they got leaked during the hearings.

引用自 xBCxRangers：

As far as the "PC" console i provided, MS can do the same i would think. Can they not?

It would literally just be a PC.

In fact, you could build a PC like that for cheaper than what any prebuilt would be sold for. You can also upgrade and change out parts without having to buy a whole new one.

Also, you would have to update your OS to keep using Steam like you do now as well.

Well they didn't get leaked, away from the hearings. They got leaked "during" the hearings, which is to say, someone thought it was important enough to speak of Mr Spencers intentions of acquiring others, whilst trying to acquire A/B .

That's likely why there was a rigamarole about it. Not in a conversation at a bar, but in official emails.

As to the much more important matter, being the machine we're talking about, i hear all the time how cheap it is to build PCs.

But we generally use console, being we don't want the headaches of PCs and building them.

And for 400 bucks over there, we can get a pretty decent machine, for the price of a console, Win 11 ready, albeit refurbished.

The overall point i'm making, is that it is possible for MS to come out such such a machine, and even better with partnership of Nvidia, and Mr Newell.

[Boblin the Goblin]

引用自 xBCxRangers：

引用自 SlowMango：

Then it was completely irrelevant to say they were significant specifically because they got leaked during the hearings.


It would literally just be a PC.

In fact, you could build a PC like that for cheaper than what any prebuilt would be sold for. You can also upgrade and change out parts without having to buy a whole new one.

Also, you would have to update your OS to keep using Steam like you do now as well.

Well they didn't get leaked, away from the hearings. They got leaked "during" the hearings, which is to say, someone thought it was important enough to speak of Mr Spencers intentions of acquiring others, whilst trying to acquire A/B .

That's likely why there was a rigamarole about it. Not in a conversation at a bar, but in official emails.

That isn't how investigations work. Everything gets read regardless of if it's relevant. There wasn't any 'rigamarole' about it. A few articles pointed it out because it was an interesting topic for the week. In fact, the only person I ever see constantly bring it up is you.

引用自 xBCxRangers：

As to the much more important matter, being the machine we're talking about, i hear all the time how cheap it is to build PCs.

But we generally use console, being we don't want the headaches of PCs and building them.

And for 400 bucks over there, we can get a pretty decent machine, for the price of a console, Win 11 ready, albeit refurbished.

The overall point i'm making, is that it is possible for MS to come out such such a machine, and even better with partnership of Nvidia, and Mr Newell.

Considering what has been shown here, knowledge on what it takes to build a PC is severely lacking.

The 'point' you're making is literally what a PC already is.