Steam had been banned by Vietnamese authorities.

[76561198800821279]

I'm a national and I want to oppose any ban against Steam because I am well known about games in Vietnam.

A dozens of games that comes up with a permit, such as Arena of Valor and League of Legends, is Made-in-China. This ban will be completely an clear violation of Vietnamese Three Noes.

Valve is an American company distributing games published by every single countries worldwide. Well, besides Chinese games, U.S. and Western games amass much more like a freedom, China have a well fairful day walking into an area full of U.S. and S.K. landmines such as Call of Duty, PUBG Steam and Helldivers as well as MapleStory and The Finals. New, indie games from around the globe, appearing up with other games on Steam.

Users can obtain new and upcoming games info before they Rels. Many of those titles can come up from a State or a Dev who didn't even Rel a game.

And many had rosed to becometh an AAA.

Palworld is coming from a unpopular dev. And their game amassed millionths.

The only heaven for those who they want to aim down their games at the world. Steam. Just Steam.

Any games that is considered U.S. landmine, as such as COD, or Korean landmine, such as PUBG, doesn't pose any threat to the Decree or even competition in Vietnam. Valve prepared a dozen of things to help you defuse any poised threats if you want to fight U.S. with a new game, Made-in-Vietnam.

You make games, you publish the game, and Steam make thing easy for you. Just do some marketing, hella job. And you get a dozenth of millionth of VND every month, get it taxed off, you keep easy money.

As long as you just keep twisting up the game, don't be a Viet Tan resisting the Govt, don't be lazy.
You keep a millionth, and the GDP of Vietnam will be twice recovered than how do Truong My Lan harmed the GDP at. If you sentenced VTP personnels dead drowning a 3%, a Vietnamese, hard-working game company with a game on Steam, online-play or PVP involved, snatch back for the Socialist Republic of Vietnam another 6%.

Any ban targeted at Steam by the Vietnamese Communist Party, worsen the GDP far to added 9%, toppling our State, our Party by another 12%. You no longer grow. The Vietnamese high-tech dream vanished. VTC (or the Vietnam Multimedia Corporation), one of the pawns of the Ministry of Information and Communications, is probably the only one Steam had a ties with, but the Govt don't know or not even heard of about.

The MIC had a quiet tie of Valve that can give Steam a chance. By giving Valve U.S. the Vietnam Multimedia Corporation, Steam had gotten all chances to grow. But the Govt decree want Steam to leave for China.

There is not much any Western games comes up with a permit.

There is instead too many Chinese titles awarded a permit by the ABEI, listed.

AAA titles and S.K. titles, as well as those US, such as PUBG would need a G1, instead of a G2, G3, G4 permits.
Steam can make it permittable by automate the permit on your behalf.
And on top of that there is only much of a G1 is U.S. games. Many of them come up from Riot, which is considerably an traitor of the U.S. ready to expelled from their homeland thanks to a deal allowing Tencent to operate the company. Other than this, 81% of them is Chinese.

One or many of them risk showing up with a nine dash line threat. The Parcels and the Spratly is an archipelago of Vietnam, should Vietnam pause all games imports for a while and limit Chinese imports for more American and Korean before they could ban Steam anyway.

It is always the dev's fault of laziness, and don't having a successful plot or game order. This is completely not Valve's. The MIC should never even try to betray VTC out of nowhere just for some Chinese friends without watching their Three Noes.

As for Vietnamese Three Noes I am trying to say there are three core principles: no alignments (không liên kết với nước này để chống nước kia), no military alliance (không tham gia liên minh quân sự), no foreign bases (không cho nước ngoài đặt căn cứ quân sự hoặc sử dụng lãnh thổ Việt Nam để chống lại nước khác.) The "No Attacking" article is very obvious: we do not shoot Chineses until they shoot us.

But for the "No Alignment" article, well they did violated. Vietnam, quietly aligning with China, banning an American platform. (Nước ta, ngầm liên kết với Trung Quốc, chống cửa hàng game của Mỹ.)

Boldly.

(This paragraph had been amended)

Update: By today the Steam is accessible for now, but the ban is apparently a ISP-made outage.

[Trundle]

Surely this isn't ISP caving under pressure by
unknown party to block them from all this.

[bidulless]

hello
There is allready a thread open about that where you had allready posted.
Not sur it will be usefull to open a new one about the same subject....
https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/0/4362376335340911703/?ctp=3#c4361250750309353438

[76561198800821279]

Messaggio originale di Trundle:

Surely this isn't ISP caving under pressure by unknown party to block them from all this.

What a sweet 30 April of the 1975.
Local Vietnamese everywhere would be raging enough to make a protest from directly from Thu Duc cities and Lao Cai mounts to Hanoi already when China have been trying to intrude Vietnamese ISPs, even Viettel to ban Steam and all Western games while the Chinese games had already flooded the list of approved games.

I will reply at you anytime once if you commented. This ban look very burning hot like a Biển Đông, everyone.

[76561198800821279]

Messaggio originale di bidulless:

Hello.,
There is already a thread open about that where you had already posted.
Not sure it will be useful to open a new one about the same subject....
https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/0/4362376335340911703/?ctp=3#c4361250750309353438

This one look so undetailed. As for a local Vietnamese deep inside Vietnam, my post could be the most detailed for the first place.
Consider confirming every single MIC's documents to be more China than U.S when comes to G1 games, which PUBG, Call of Duty, and Counter-Strike had all been getting hit eligible for a G1 than a G2, G3 and G4.
I am showing you the top notch and details here right from Binh Thuan just before they reacts.

[76561198800821279]

Messaggio originale di fuskiye.:

Messaggio originale di bidulless:

Hello.,
There is already a thread open about that where you had already posted.
Not sure it will be useful to open a new one about the same subject....

Consider confirming every single MIC's documents to be more China than U.S when comes to G1 games, which PUBG, Call of Duty, and Counter-Strike had all been getting hit eligible for a G1 than a G2, G3 and G4.

Pay attention: this bump is for you if you want the details. Read the post, then ask me anything about the ban.
Do not try to go betray the Vietnamese Communist Party or appear Saigonizing like a Viet Tan capitalists.

[Crazy Tiger]

Not sure what you're expecting Valve to do, honestly. They don't control the ISPs and such.

If you expect Valve to fight for your rights to be able to reach Steam, you're severely mismanaging expectations, though. They're a company, not a fighter.

[76561198800821279]

Messaggio originale di Crazy Tiger:

If you expect Valve to fight for your rights to be able to reach Steam, you're severely mismanaging expectations, though. They're a company, not a fighter.

I am not trying to do it, but we wish that the government could deny the ban on Steam.
If the ban was confirmed I just wish that there are another Steam for us, just like Steam China.

Messaggio originale di Crazy Tiger:

Not sure what you're expecting Valve to do, honestly. They don't control the ISPs and such.

Well rest assured, the MIC controls the ISPs and the VTC. If this had been announced I would call Steam to go team with VTC indeed.
Steam still had a contact point, that is VTC is providing one, and VTC is essentially an very direct line of MIC. Framing out Steam is not an option for the govt because VTC is bridging Steam games to Vietnam.

[Mad Scientist]

Messaggio originale di fuskiye.:

Messaggio originale di Crazy Tiger:

Not sure what you're expecting Valve to do, honestly. They don't control the ISPs and such.

If you expect Valve to fight for your rights to be able to reach Steam, you're severely mismanaging expectations, though. They're a company, not a fighter.

I am not trying to do it, but we wish that the government could deny the ban on Steam.
If the ban was confirmed I just wish that there are another Steam for us, just like Steam China.

Well steamchina was realistically made because of the absurd demands, but more importantly; the high potential of profit. all they had to do was severely strip down the client and give control of the regional client to a highly questionable company, so getting your own regional client could be a thing, but it doesn't mean it's a good thing either.

Most would rather use the unrestricted client that doesn't give any portion of control to any company, only developer spaces devs can control.

[76561198800821279]

Messaggio originale di Mad Scientist:

Messaggio originale di fuskiye.:

If the ban was confirmed I just wish that there are another Steam for us, just like Steam China.

Well Steam China was realistically made because of the absurd demands, but more importantly; the high potential of profit. All they had to do was to severely strip down the client and give control of the regional client to a highly questionable company, so getting your own regional client could be a thing, but it doesn't mean it's a good thing either.
Most would rather use the unrestricted client that doesn't give any portion of control to any company, only developer spaces devs can control.

The Vietnamese Communist Party really do had the rights to approve or deny any censorship or bans done by a ISP at least. When the ban was denied or was actually deemed as a outage instead the ISP will be forced to "lift the ban" quietly and people will think the ban was a outage. Or is it really an outage ???

ISPs in Vietnam had already used to censors random sites by causing outages. But for the VCP they do not act like them. What is banned by the Communies in my country is apparently three things: reactionary, questionable territorial claims, and online gambling. The remainder remain clean of any censorship. You do still play Call of Duty through Blizzard.

When one game comes up with a nine dash line of China the locals will gonna turn back and boycotting, then censorship happens. Game lose a permit and blocked from Vietnam by the Communies. But if there was ten? Hundredths? 😐
It is neither different nor same if a game shows up with a capitalist South propaganda, when one game of COD: Black Ops series don't get censored while being a little much anti-1975. But how about Viet Tan propaganda game? The ISPs don't ban, but the Govt will, instead, horn out Steam to delist the traitor instead of banning the whole Steam.

[happy]

You never even bought a Game on Steam, let alone spend 5 dollars to have your profile restrictions lifted with an account atleast 2 years old... You sure must be a well known Gamer in Vietnam, especially PC Gamer.

[76561198800821279]

Messaggio originale di happy:

You never even bought a game on Steam, let alone spend 5 dollars to have your profile restrictions lifted with an account atleast 2 years old... You sure must be a well known Gamer in Vietnam, especially PC Gamer.

Five dollars would mean equivalent to especially, quote, 128 thousand Dongs. Well not much. By VTC the tax will only shows up if you pay legally with VTC Pay instead of credit cards, which is essentially comes up with Napas payments.

The banks or the CRM/ATMs is too far. You much got the chance to just buy games by another method than with Napas or else. There is a vendor among us selling Steam cards with Momo payment, how handy are they.

One may had claimed at least one limited free-to-keep Steam game and is keeping.

There is a hypocrite within either the MIC or the VCP, when the Steam just failed to show what kind of tax is being paid and how many for a game. There is about ~30% VTC cut when you're about to pay, it is clearly hidden from the full price you're about to pay in VND. So with Napas, you pay with the taxes, but with a credit card eligible for international payment, such as Visa or Mastercard, or with any Steam Balance, well oh sh•• no tax... Very rarely anyone will rather barely pay using a eligible Visa than pick the VTCPay option and pay with a Napas. Not if there were so much anyone paying by first topping up the Wallet and then pay your Wallet on games.

The wallets will be heavily, still, taxed by either the vendor where you brought the card from, or VTC if you chose an mistake of using your Napas to top up Steam Wallet digitally.

So, no, it is a hypocrites' issue.

[xBCxRangers]

Why would they ban them? I heard they're playing on Steam in North Korea of all places.

[76561198800821279]

Messaggio originale di xBCxRangers:

Why would they ban them? I heard they're playing on Steam in North Korea of all places.

North Korean had neither internet nor good PC setup. Their home country had been sanctioned like an Sinchon.
This is randomly by a ISP, no reasons, if you ask about Vietnam indeed. If the ban is considered as a outage, they "lifts". You keep the Steam.
Government will only confirm as a ban if the news had been announced through the reliable propaganda, such as the Vietnamese Television, Tuổi Trẻ and TTXVN/Vietnam+.

[Knee]

We are Vietnam. You cannot beat us.

[76561198800821279]

Messaggio originale di Knee:

We are Vietnam. You cannot beat us.

Well all kinds of events that is happened in 30.04.1975 cannot all be reversed. No Chineses could outage Steam to a confirmed ban. AMA if you want more about the ban!