The SCOTUS has sided with the State of Texas. Can Steam be blocked?

[xBCxRangers]

https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/30/politics/supreme-court-texas-porn-age-verification/index.html

"Texas’ law requires any website that publishes a substantial amount of content that is “harmful to minors” to verify the age of users. The challengers said the law also forces adults to identify themselves before accessing pornography, which the group’s lawyers said violates access to free speech online".

The challengers, have lost.

There were no dissents.

We've had these conversations before, but it has now been verified, States do have Rights as to protect children from sites, in regards to adult content.

We all have our opinions on these matters, but it seems, these matters are, or will hit closer to home before long.

Steam has adult content, the question seems to only be what "substantial" means, or may mean, or how that is construed by states.

Should Steam require ID, like a DL, or State ID what not to access certain game hubs, or it's site itself?

[xBCxRangers]

Originally posted by brian9824:

This article has a much more detailed description - https://apnews.com/article/supreme-court-pornography-age-verification-texas-9c31eca983bdb30d3696cd4c5891a392

The Supreme Court on Tuesday refused to block a Texas law requiring pornographic websites to verify the age of their users.

The justices rejected an emergency appeal filed by the Free Speech Coalition, a trade association for the adult entertainment industry. The provision of House Bill 1181, signed into law by Gov. Greg Abbott, remains in effect even as the association’s full appeal is weighed by the Supreme Court.

They haven't issued their ruling on any of the appeals, but I do stand corrected, the appeal is going to be thru the Supreme Court, you picked the most poorly worded article I 've ever seen.

The appeal has not been done yet and no ruling has been issued and they have not sided with TX.

You stand corrected on many things. And that's why i no longer reply.

[Brian9824]

Originally posted by xBCxRangers:

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That's fine, you don't have to reply when your wrong. The actual evidence shows the truth. You are completely wrong and the Supreme Court has not sided with TX. You are free to not reply if you wish

https://apnews.com/article/supreme-court-pornography-age-verification-texas-9c31eca983bdb30d3696cd4c5891a392

The justices rejected an emergency appeal filed by the Free Speech Coalition, a trade association for the adult entertainment industry. The provision of House Bill 1181, signed into law by Gov. Greg Abbott, remains in effect even as the association’s full appeal is weighed by the Supreme Court.

You got confused by them denying an emergency appeal to stop the law while they are fighting it, thinking they denied the appeal because you didn't do your research. It was an honest mistake and your article you posted is really bad and didn't give you all the details. Fortunately a basic search shows plenty of info to explain why you were wrong.

The appeal is still being weighed by the Supreme Court and they have issued no rulings on it.

[xBCxRangers]

It seems to me, the question has nothing to do what Mr Newell or Valve may construe to be adult content. That is "their" interpretation.

That interpretation may be wholly different then the AG of the State of Texas or others.

And so although Valve construes a very small amount as labelled, "Adult Content" , it can arguably have, 30% or more of it's content making up such a label, accordingst to other authorities, mainly the states who will make the decisions.

Anyhow, yet another shot thru the bow, of what may be yet to come in the future, and seems to get closer and closer as the states and courts take action.

Anyhow, i and a few others aren't the only ones here to argue these issues. Others are welcome.

[C²C^Guyver |NZB|]

I can't imagine any adult , posting something thinking it says something that it doesn't, then it is pointed out to them that they are wrong and they just still keep going. It is seriously baffling.It's also a bit embarrassing. There is no harm in admitting when you're wrong. You do look a bit silly though when you think that you are right when you're actually wrong, constantly.

If you're rooting for the death of Steam, I can assure you that it is not going to happen. All of these other digital PC platforms will likely die before Steam does.

[The nameless Gamer]

Originally posted by xBCxRangers:

Anyhow, i and a few others aren't the only ones here to argue these issues. Others are welcome.

What issues? What do these shriveled up geezers running Texas want to accomplish anyway? And what's your gain from that?

[C²C^Guyver |NZB|]

Also, if you think Texas (or any other state, for that matter) is going to pass up on all that tax money from Valve, you're crazy.

[Boblin the Goblin]

Originally posted by xBCxRangers:

Originally posted by SlowMango:

It also defines sexual content. That of which falls into the "adult content" tag on Steam.

Which, as Brian showed, only makes up about 5,000 games out of the 90,000+.

Well, respectfully he has been wrong too many times (as he ended up again here), and that's why i asked where he practiced law. He really shouldn't opine on matters for which he has no knowledge.

The matter here, is you or i cannot interpret, whatever "Steam" may categorize something as such, that the State of Texas, or others would agree.

That is Mr Newells or Valves determination, or yours. as to what" Adult Content" may be. Not the State of Texas or others.

He hasn't been wrong.

This thread is a great example of who has been though.

[Brian9824]

Originally posted by xBCxRangers:

It seems to me, the question has nothing to do what Mr Newell or Valve may construe to be adult content. That is "their" interpretation.

Actually you forgot that TX already sued businesses who were violating that law, Steam wasn't one of them. So there is nothing at all that shows anyone in TX agrees with YOUR interpretation.

Texas Attorney General announced that his office is suing Aylo Global Entertainment, which owns ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ and other sites. Paxton sought an injunction against the company for requiring age-appropriate age verification safeguards and potentially millions of dollars in civil penalties.

If they felt steam broke the law they'd go after steam which is many times larger then ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.

Not to mention you also forgot that parts of that law have already been removed as they were found unconstitutional.

Texas like all states also has a slew of laws that constitute obscene imagery, and its not really debatable. You might be able to find a handful of cases that it might be questionable, not 25,000+ cases though

For instance nudity in of itself is not classified as pornography as it occurs all the times in movies.

[Boblin the Goblin]

Originally posted by The nameless Commander:

Originally posted by xBCxRangers:

Anyhow, i and a few others aren't the only ones here to argue these issues. Others are welcome.

What issues? What do these shriveled up geezers running Texas want to accomplish anyway? And what's your gain from that?

The issue of lying about what the article says and about what the law says.

Though, as we can see, that issue is ignored or denied despite hard evidence.

[Boblin the Goblin]

So, just to clear up the misinformation in this thread.

SCOTUS did no side with Texas regarding the ID law. The denied blocking the law while the appeal process is happening.

The appeal is still happening which SCOTUS has not made a ruling on.

Steam does not fall under the conditions for the law to apply to the platform. The law clearly lays out that Steam must contain at least 1/3 of their hosted content as pornographic material. Right now, Steam has just over 5,000 games marked as "Adult" of the 90,000+ games on the platform.

That's it.

Any statements otherwise without a source saying otherwise is, at this point, a deliberate misreprentation of the situation.

[Brian9824]

Originally posted by SlowMango:

So, just to clear up the misinformation in this thread.

SCOTUS did no side with Texas regarding the ID law. The denied blocking the law while the appeal process is happening.

The appeal is still happening which SCOTUS has not made a ruling on.

Steam does not fall under the conditions for the law to apply to the platform. The law clearly lays out that Steam must contain at least 1/3 of their hosted content as pornographic material. Right now, Steam has just over 5,000 games marked as "Adult" of the 90,000+ games on the platform.

That's it.

Yep, the supreme court literally issued 1 sentence saying they chose not to pause the law while the appeal proceeds. That's it. Sadly some users are trying to twist that and make up false claims of them ruling in favor or against people.

[xBCxRangers]

Originally posted by C²C^Guyver |NZB|:

Also, if you think Texas (or any other state, for that matter) is going to pass up on all that tax money from Valve, you're crazy.

They seem to be willing to pass it up on much bigger fish and industries, then Steam.

[C²C^Guyver |NZB|]

Originally posted by xBCxRangers:

Originally posted by C²C^Guyver |NZB|:

Also, if you think Texas (or any other state, for that matter) is going to pass up on all that tax money from Valve, you're crazy.

They seem to be willing to pass it up on much bigger fish and industries, then Steam.

Great. That doesn't mean they're going to pass up on that money from Valve, especially considering they aren't breaking the law. Steam is not an adult website. As much as you want it to be, it isn't.

If you're so eager for Steam to fail, why are you here? Why are you on these forums almost 24/7? Go play your Xbox and be happy.

I mean you really don't have to answer, because we all know why you're here.

[xBCxRangers]

Originally posted by The nameless Commander:

Originally posted by xBCxRangers:

Anyhow, i and a few others aren't the only ones here to argue these issues. Others are welcome.

What issues? What do these shriveled up geezers running Texas want to accomplish anyway? And what's your gain from that?

Right, i def understand, and if you want my personal view, i have no issue with Steam and their Right to provide adult content. Idt that's being questioned.

Games i may play, may be deemed by certain states as to be Adult Content, and would need ID to be accessed, if this continues.

In my state, we can't buy cold medication from Amazon, even though they have my payment info, they want a DL or ID number, or no sale.

Would i mind having to do that here, before accessing certain game hubs or buying certain games? No.

My age verification to get into many of these hubs, is 100 years old lol. And if they can implement that feature, i'm sure they can implement something more ironclad than just a hinderance pass over feature.

Notwithstanding, these issues seem to be going viral in our states, and courts.

[C²C^Guyver |NZB|]

Originally posted by xBCxRangers:

Originally posted by The nameless Commander:

What issues? What do these shriveled up geezers running Texas want to accomplish anyway? And what's your gain from that?

Right, i def understand, and if you want my personal view, i have no issue with Steam and their Right to provide adult content. Idt that's being questioned.

Games i may play, may be deemed by certain states as to be Adult Content, and would need ID to be accessed, if this continues.

In my state, we can't buy cold medication from Amazon, even though they have my payment info, they want a DL or ID number, or no sale.

Would i mind having to do that here, before accessing certain game hubs or buying certain games? No.

My age verification to get into many of these hubs, is 100 years old lol. And if they can implement that feature, i'm sure they can implement something more ironclad than just a hinderance pass over feature.

Notwithstanding, these issues seem to be going viral in our states, and courts.

You're not reading. It may be adult content but it has to pass a certain amount, to be deemed an adult website over 1/3. Did you miss the post?

There's 90,000 games on Steam and only 5,000 are marked as adult content.