Interesting problem with steams review fraud

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76561199559798421 Apr 3, 2024 @ 4:26pm

Interesting problem with steams review fraud

Its just been discovered that Steams Review Fraud is real,
the reality of this is reflected directly on the developers page showing the follower users.

200k reviews of a product with only 5000 follows of the developer is very suspicious steam is not doing enough to cover up the review fraud they are committing for profit in the reflected marketing of reviews they are providing.

we as customers expect better steam, please stop disappointing your paying customers by continuing to engage in this fallacy

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the use of bots in the steam review system suggest there is a loop hole somewhere within the owning the game and being a full time account on steam.

two and really only two methods seem approachable.

method 1. is Independent from steam the game developers are creating there own 100K Bots and steam accounts awarding the games on steam to them. which would cost them an awful lot of money due to the fact steam would get 30% of the profit.

method 2. is steam is behind the mass review fraud, steam awards the games for free to the bot accounts in effort from the developers over looking payment in exchange for upticks to create a popularity contest drive market.

method 2 seems the most cost effective, it does two things, it helps the developer get attention, and creates a fake population of users on steam that helps support the narrative of 30 million users. without it steams review system would surprisingly small which can be actually noticed on 1000's of games that have less then 5000 reviews, notable games that have been on steam for years, created by well known gaming studios.

it is ironic that here are all the same steam people trying to hard to cover up the facts. yes you are all known to me, yes i enjoy your comments all across the forum threads, i see them all posted very often, and yes i identify most of you as Steam.

Due to the policies you engage in , the actions of words you seek to try and enforce and the over all heated mood of the replies made.

lets put our personal opinions aside of one another, and focus on Method 2.

Steam being purposely controlled and manipulated by a illegal review bot farm could have some serious implications of lawsuits against steam.

Last edited by Everyone is Invited; Apr 4, 2024 @ 9:18am

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Doctor Zalgo Apr 5, 2024 @ 1:06am

Originally posted by 76561197960287930:
Originally posted by Doctor Zalgo:
You definitely keep saying that but you certainly havent established a systematic pattern of behaviour, let alone one across multiple publishers.

The fact your primary evidence is that most people don't follow publishers or post in forums (when those things either offer no benefits or are actively detrimental) but do choose to write reviews (something that actively benefits not just the broader community but also friends) means that calling your argument flimsy would be doing a disservice to tissue paper.

Okay. I wasn't the one that said anything about following publishers or developers that was someone else. I think you have users mixed up.

That's great that you review legit for your friends. Just remember all reviews show up in the public domain including, the obvious spam.

The only thing that matters is thumbs up or thumbs down. The rest is just a nice to have.

I have ASD so it's with full self awareness that I'm going to go out on a limb and say that your willingness to create a vast conspiracy theory rather than accept that people don't use the review function the way you specifically want them to is probably something that warrants an ASD screening.

Last edited by Doctor Zalgo; Apr 5, 2024 @ 1:09am

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Qbert ⭐ Apr 5, 2024 @ 4:02am

Originally posted by NuLife:
Originally posted by cSg|mc-Hotsauce:

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Crazy Tiger Apr 5, 2024 @ 4:10am

Why would it be odd that people leave reviews but not follow the developer/publisher? Personally I only care about the games, I don't give a hoot about who made them or published them.

I've seen plenty of shared sentiment in that regard in various gaming places.

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Qbert ⭐ Apr 5, 2024 @ 4:30am

Originally posted by Crazy Tiger:
Why would it be odd that people leave reviews but not follow the developer/publisher? Personally I only care about the games, I don't give a hoot about who made them or published them.

I've seen plenty of shared sentiment in that regard in various gaming places.

According to OP, you're a bot and fake profile paid by Valve.

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Crazy Tiger Apr 5, 2024 @ 4:42am

Originally posted by Qbert ⭐:
Originally posted by Crazy Tiger:
Why would it be odd that people leave reviews but not follow the developer/publisher? Personally I only care about the games, I don't give a hoot about who made them or published them.

I've seen plenty of shared sentiment in that regard in various gaming places.
According to OP, you're a bot and fake profile paid by Valve.

Ah yes, the classic "nobody that is real has 1000+ games" stuff.

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Brian9824 Apr 5, 2024 @ 5:02am

I mean out of the hundreds of games I have I don't think i've ever followed a single one of them or a developer... OP's logic has more holes then swiss cheese.

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Start_Running Apr 5, 2024 @ 5:45am

Originally posted by Crazy Tiger:
Originally posted by Qbert ⭐:
According to OP, you're a bot and fake profile paid by Valve.
Ah yes, the classic "nobody that is real has 1000+ games" stuff.

Sounds like straight up envy.
They don't /can't have it so it isn't real.

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76561199648916059 Apr 5, 2024 @ 5:54am

It's comparative to getting a purchase for free and being a bot, if you got a free game of course your not gonna care about the developer, same they bots they don't know or care.

It's not that nobody cares, but bots certainly don't, and apparently steam forgot to include it which goes to show that even those pretending to support games over looked following the developers.

Looks more like a over sight and trying to justify the hole then reasoning, cause real people who purchase games follow the product developers.

Clear difference from real people making purchases and people who got games for free and try to justify not being real enough to follow developers.

I always browse the developer page, it shows you the content of the products they provide before you fall for the scam reviews steam encourages

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Tito Shivan Apr 5, 2024 @ 5:58am

You realise we know you'd be posting the same thread if a large portion of reviewers actually followed the developers instead, right?

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Start_Running Apr 5, 2024 @ 6:01am

Originally posted by Tito Shivan:
You realise we know you'd be posting the same thread if a large portion of reviewers actually followed the developers instead, right?

Because clearlyv they are just fanboys or employees of the dev/pub .
Even the scathing negative reviews.. somehow.

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76561199648916059 Apr 5, 2024 @ 6:04am

Nah it's a major issues when you see a game have 200k reviews purchases but nobody followed the game developer. That's the issue. Fix it no reason to believe anyone but the 5k followers the product developer has bought the game, 195k people who don't know how to follow a developer but leave a review is a little shaddy

Specially when it's a positive review and encourage people to buy from the developer

Last edited by Majestically Awkward; Apr 5, 2024 @ 6:06am

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76561197960287930 Apr 5, 2024 @ 6:05am

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Qbert ⭐ Apr 5, 2024 @ 6:08am

245 from a huge universe of reviews in Dota 2 is like... nothing lol

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76561197960287930 Apr 5, 2024 @ 6:12am

Originally posted by Qbert ⭐:
245 from a huge universe of reviews in Dota 2 is like... nothing lol

but it happens so frequently.

so tell me. is it pretty easy to get 245 individuals to post the same review all in a 10 minute window and then it stops, huh?

it would be a lot easier to do as a single user in control with a script?

Last edited by 76561197960287930; Apr 5, 2024 @ 6:13am

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76561199648916059 Apr 5, 2024 @ 6:14am

Thanks for the evidence, also they have zero forum posts no forum awards

Looks like you found a csgo-2 bot farm

Each one had a few hours in csgo-2. In the past 2 weeks, I believe you have uncovered a deep problem within steam that steam intensionally overlooks or is part of

Last edited by Majestically Awkward; Apr 5, 2024 @ 6:18am

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