Why do bans on a Game Hub, also affect the Workshop?

[xBCxRangers]

I was banned from a game hub, now a long while ago. I was told by a moderator there, that the Workshop is not all affiliated, and totally separated from the Developer and game hub, yet, i'm banned from there as well.

Coming back to the game after a hiatus, there's a matter i need to talk to a modder, i've supported in the past, yet cannot post there. Obviously, the moderator of the game hub, lied (no surprise btw).

Shouldn't the Workshops be separated from the Game Hubs?

[xBCxRangers]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Satoru:

Note they did not 'lie' to you

You are CORRECTLY banned yet again from ATS2 forums

This DOES NOT impact your ability to use the Workshop

This DOES impact the DISCUSSION and COMMENTS section in the Workshop

It would have helped if that's what i was told. They negated all responsibility of the Workshop and Mods. Obviously, they lied. The fact is, if they can ban me from uploading, or even posting, they can ban the problematic mods, they say are causing issues.

And there's no such thing as ATS2.

[C²C^Guyver |NZB|]

It's funny that you keep focusing on the fact that you think they lied instead of the fact that you broke the rules.

If you don't want to be restricted in such ways, don't break the rules.

EDIT
I'd really start paying attention to that following the rules part. Because if this builds up to your account being community banned, you're really going to start realizing what being restricted from the community means, because that restricts you from everything

[xBCxRangers]

Oprindeligt skrevet af C²C^Guyver |NZB|:

It's hilariously funny that you keep focusing on the fact that you think they lied instead of the fact that you broke the rules.

If you don't want to be restricted in such ways, don't break the rules.

EDIT
I'd really start paying attention to that following the rules part. Because if this builds up to your account being community banned you're really going to start realizing what being restricted from the community is because that restricts you from everything

This thread is about the Workshop, not the Forums or my moderation (you have enough on your plate in that regard). And it seems to me, if i'm breaking the rules, so is a modder they claim, is not updating his mods.

Therefore, if they can ban me from posting on the Workshop, they can ban the mod they say are causing issues.

Mainly, and i'm just throwing this out there, if they're so animant these mods break their games, and have to go thru this every two months, they just "may" want to look at ending the modding on their game.

It would make sense, but wait, that is the selling point, of THEIR game.

And so it seems, they want it all ways. They want the money these modders make them, but want to negate the responsibility, for them.

This may sound like a head bender to you, but, Developers also have responsibilities to assure their games are in working order.

And i can see Nexxus, or Mod Hub and areas like that. But this is the Workshop, THEY themselves run, obviously. I have Arma 3, never an issue. I have Mudrunnner. Never an issue. Warhammer, never an issue.

There are games however, that just should not have modding.

[Animus]

Can't do the time, don't do the crime.

[C²C^Guyver |NZB|]

Oprindeligt skrevet af xBCxRangers:

Oprindeligt skrevet af C²C^Guyver |NZB|:

It's hilariously funny that you keep focusing on the fact that you think they lied instead of the fact that you broke the rules.

If you don't want to be restricted in such ways, don't break the rules.

EDIT
I'd really start paying attention to that following the rules part. Because if this builds up to your account being community banned you're really going to start realizing what being restricted from the community is because that restricts you from everything

This thread is about the Workshop, not the Forums or my moderation (you have enough on your plate in that regard). And it seems to me, if i'm breaking the rules, so is a modder they claim, is not updating his mods.

Therefore, if they can ban me from posting on the Workshop, they can ban the mod they say are causing issues.

Mainly, and i'm just throwing this out there, if they're so animant these mods break their games, and have to go thru this every two months, they just "may" want to look at ending the modding on their game.

It would make sense, but wait, that is the selling point, of THEIR game.

And so it seems, they want it all ways. They want the money these modders make them, but want to negate the responsibility, for them.

This may sound like a head bender to you, but, Developers also have responsibilities to assure their games are in working order.

And i can see Nexxus, or Mod Hub and areas like that. But this is the Workshop, THEY themselves run, obviously. I have Arma 3, never an issue. I have Mudrunnner. Never an issue. Warhammer, never an issue.

There are games however, that just should not have modding.

That's where you're wrong. Mods don't have to have continual support what?.

If something breaks, and they don't have the time to fix it, they're under no obligation to keep the modification going. Valve it also is under no obligation to support mods.

EDIT
This thread is also certainly about moderation because your title even has the word ban in it. Did you forget that?

[xBCxRangers]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Animus:

Can't do the time, don't do the crime.

Well in my case, that "crime" was the best one i ever committed lol. My issue never happened again over there, and likely never will after the rigamarole i and others put them through.

I think they more than learned their lesson, there.

But as far as the Workshop, they're totally responsible as to what's uploaded, posted, and what works and what don't. And again, like you said, if they can't be accountable for their actions, don't do it.

[Animus]

Oprindeligt skrevet af xBCxRangers:

Oprindeligt skrevet af Animus:

Can't do the time, don't do the crime.

Well in my case, that "crime" was the best one i ever committed lol. My issue never happened again over there, and likely never will after the rigamarole i and others put them through.

I think they more than learned their lesson, there.

But as far as the Workshop, they're totally responsible as to what's uploaded, posted, and what works and what don't. And again, like you said, if they can't be accountable for their actions, don't do it.

Getting belligerent to the point you hate an entire platform, because a Dev enacted their right to remove a disruptive element from their community. Isn't something to be proud of.

[xBCxRangers]

Oprindeligt skrevet af C²C^Guyver |NZB|:

Oprindeligt skrevet af xBCxRangers:

This thread is about the Workshop, not the Forums or my moderation (you have enough on your plate in that regard). And it seems to me, if i'm breaking the rules, so is a modder they claim, is not updating his mods.

Therefore, if they can ban me from posting on the Workshop, they can ban the mod they say are causing issues.

Mainly, and i'm just throwing this out there, if they're so animant these mods break their games, and have to go thru this every two months, they just "may" want to look at ending the modding on their game.

It would make sense, but wait, that is the selling point, of THEIR game.

And so it seems, they want it all ways. They want the money these modders make them, but want to negate the responsibility, for them.

This may sound like a head bender to you, but, Developers also have responsibilities to assure their games are in working order.

And i can see Nexxus, or Mod Hub and areas like that. But this is the Workshop, THEY themselves run, obviously. I have Arma 3, never an issue. I have Mudrunnner. Never an issue. Warhammer, never an issue.

There are games however, that just should not have modding.

That's where you're wrong. Mods don't have to have continual support what?.

If something breaks, and they don't have the time to fix it, they're under no obligation to keep the modification going. Valve it also is under no obligation to support mods.

EDIT
This thread is also certainly about moderation because your title even has the word ban in it. Did you forget that?

As was said, if they can ban folks from the Workshop, they're responsible for the Workshop. This was an easy one, in why the post was answered, rather quickly, many hours ago. Night.

[xBCxRangers]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Animus:

Oprindeligt skrevet af xBCxRangers:

Well in my case, that "crime" was the best one i ever committed lol. My issue never happened again over there, and likely never will after the rigamarole i and others put them through.

I think they more than learned their lesson, there.

But as far as the Workshop, they're totally responsible as to what's uploaded, posted, and what works and what don't. And again, like you said, if they can't be accountable for their actions, don't do it.

Getting belligerent to the point you hate an entire platform, because a Dev enacted their right to remove a disruptive element from their community. Isn't something to be proud of.

They altered a product i bought, to something i and others did not buy. That is really false advertising, they heard a boat load, they deserved it, and i welcome the ban.

No questions asked. Not a problem. They never did it again, when they could have.

That's all that matters to me.

The issue here, is the Workshop, they are also responsible for, and how they are responsible. The question was answered. They don't know what they were talking about, which is par for the course.

[C²C^Guyver |NZB|]

Valve may restrict or terminate your Account or a particular Subscription for any conduct or activity that is illegal, constitutes a Cheat, or breaches the Steam Online Conduct Rules. You acknowledge that Valve is not required to provide you notice before terminating your Subscription(s) and/or Account.

https://store.steampowered.com/subscriber_agreement

Have you read that part yet? That's what a ban is. Also take special note of where it says breach of the Steam Online Conduct Rules.

That word restrict? It means ban.

[Komarimaru]

Hmm...

Do note, that updating software is a common thing. And one of the main selling points of Steam, letting the developers push out updates smooth and quickly. This isn't breaking a game, since the update affects the base game. If someone has modded their game, then that's on them to wait for mods to update.

If one is banned from a Game Hub, they still have access to Workshop though. You just can't comment on it. If one cannot refrain from acting mature enough to keep their privileges, this is what happens.

[Boblin the Goblin]

Oprindeligt skrevet af xBCxRangers:

Oprindeligt skrevet af Animus:

Getting belligerent to the point you hate an entire platform, because a Dev enacted their right to remove a disruptive element from their community. Isn't something to be proud of.

They altered a product i bought, to something i and others did not buy. That is really false advertising, they heard a boat load, they deserved it, and i welcome the ban.

No questions asked. Not a problem. They never did it again, when they could have.

That's all that matters to me.

The issue here, is the Workshop, they are also responsible for, and how they are responsible. The question was answered. They don't know what they were talking about, which is par for the course.

You should learn what false advertising is.

You should also learn what being "responsible for" means.