PC gaming VS Console gaming

[Alvarez_Tiago]

I was warching the latest DF direct and It blows my mind how even the guys from DF think that PC vs Console is just about power.

You can make your PC look and feel how you want and PC does a whole lot more than a console ever could.

Let's talk just games, tho. On PC you have a whole slate of graphical options in game to make it look and run as you wish. Want more frames?
Lower res and use a good upscaler, set shadows or the more demanding setting to high or medium, you'll be hard pressed to spot any differences but doing so you can sometimes almost double your fps.
Don't like CA, DoF, motion blur? Turn it off...
Mods...
All of it you don't have access with consoles, you are stuck with what devs set, even going to next generation your game is stuck to what it was when it came out unless there's a patch or something.
Talking about generation, there's no such thing on PC, I don't have to worry about backwards compatibility. I can go and fire whatever game I bought like 10 years ago right now and it works just fine.

And don't get me started with emulation. I have more access to old playstations library on my PC than PS5 does.

It's not about power, it can also be, but even if PS5 pro turns out to be more powerful than my current rig, I would never jump ships for that.

I wanna know your take on the matter?
Is it only about the power for you?

[miakisfan]

My problem with this is Steam doesn't have those games that matter to me. If they had Wild Arms, the Ar tonelico trilogy, the Xenosaga trilogy, etc.(I could go on for a long time) then I would likely agree. They don't.

So it really isn't so much about power as it is the differences between the library here and at PlayStation. If they have the games I want and Steam doesn't then it is a simple choice. I own a PS5 instead.

Or I could have the best of both worlds and own both. As someone who has owned a bunch of consoles I have no problem with them. I owned a Nintendo back in the 80's ... hell, I owned an Atari back in the early 80's. Then again I owned a TI994/a back then too. My friend owned a Commodore 64. It was the best of both worlds back then.

Sadly nowadays we have those people who have to differentiate because power is more important than choice.

[B✪✪tsy]

Consoles are for people that are not willing or can't buy a good gaming rig. Only reason to play on console is for some of the exclusive console games. For example, it still sucks that the baseball game The Show is not availablle on PC.

[D. Flame]

Crazy Tiger eredeti hozzászólása:

They have their usecase for me, I know that because I use them. Not sure what gives you the idea you're in any position to tell me otherwise anyway.

Because I am talking about objective facts.

[miakisfan]

B✪✪tsy eredeti hozzászólása:

Consoles are for people that are not willing or can't buy a good gaming rig. Only reason to play on console is for some of the exclusive console games. For example, it still sucks that the baseball game The Show is not availablle on PC.

Maybe for some people they are but not me.

[doomshadow612]

Only epic level clowns consider Plebstation above glorious PC gaming

[Crazy Tiger]

D. Flame eredeti hozzászólása:

Crazy Tiger eredeti hozzászólása:

They have their usecase for me, I know that because I use them. Not sure what gives you the idea you're in any position to tell me otherwise anyway.

Because I am talking about objective facts.

Lol, "objective". None of what you posted is relevant to usecases anyway. All devices have their usecases, it doesn't matter whether you want to blind yourself to that.

[miakisfan]

doomshadow612 eredeti hozzászólása:

Only epic level clowns consider Plebstation above glorious PC gaming

Or people with common sense who know they can only access certain libraries by owning said console.

[D. Flame]

Crazy Tiger eredeti hozzászólása:

D. Flame eredeti hozzászólása:

Because I am talking about objective facts.

Lol, "objective". None of what you posted is relevant to usecases anyway. All devices have their usecases, it doesn't matter whether you want to blind yourself to that.

I have provided multiple objective examples. You haven’t post a single one, not even a subjective.

“I use one,” is not a use case.

[Arkham99]

PC... the only place today where you can play 'Gotham City Impostors'...:-)

[SLAYER187]

Consoles were never superior over PC's! Consoles use pressed boards and no full size components which fades quickly because they are pressed and cannot be upgraded. I loved consoles up until 8th gen where it got to the point where consoles these days are just irrelevant and they even charge for that (online) i do not and will not pay for online services which are awful on console anyways. I still use my classic consoles like my chipped & switched sega saturn and DC! and i have all nintendo consoles hooked up. Besides that PC can do anything a console can do and tons more.

[Haruspex]

I am a PC gamer, and I'm done with consoles.

However, I'm glad consoles exist, because PC as a platform does not hold your hand. Many gamers out there need to have their hands held. They need to be spoon-fed their gaming entertainment.

If these console gamers were driven into PC spaces, the usual PC gaming communities would be absolutely flooded with kids who are used to being carefully coddled, with absolutely zero sense of personal responsibility or self sufficiency. In fact we're already seeing this as PC gaming gets more popular, but it could be a lot worse.

No gaming platform is more open and free than PC, but that freedom requires just a bit of patience and know-how. Running into a problem or error doesn't worry a PC gamer, because they are okay with doing a little troubleshooting to get things working properly. In fact, they enjoy it. They get satisfaction from that problem solving process, and they understand that when you have so many variables and so many different hardware and software configurations, running into trouble is inevitable. This will always stop a console-minded gamer in his tracks, but to a PC gamer it's barely a speed bump.

That's not to say a console gamer cannot become a PC gamer. Everyone has to start somewhere. It's all in the mindset though. There needs to be a certain amount of patience, adaptability and willingness to learn. Without that, you're really better off with your console.

[xBCxRangers]

All about ease, costs, and keeping your games. Consoles are easy to use, a lot cheaper than a decent PC, and you'll never have to upgrade that console, to keep your games.

Here on PC, it's about hardcore gamers. A lot more expensive, constantly must be upgrade to meet specs, and if it's not, you lose your games.

These are likely reasons why console has a much bigger market, and phones and handhelds, even bigger.

[D. Flame]

xBCxRangers eredeti hozzászólása:

All about ease, costs, and keeping your games. Consoles are easy to use, a lot cheaper than a decent PC, and you'll never have to upgrade that console, to keep your games.

Here on PC, it's about hardcore gamers. A lot more expensive, constantly must be upgrade to meet specs, and if it's not, you lose your games.

These are likely reasons why console has a much bigger market, and phones and handhelds, even bigger.

They’re not easier to use. They are not cheaper. Online requirements mean you won’t keep your games either.

Hell, even mini PCs are getting to the point where they can play games well, they are smaller than modern consoles, and cost about the same price.

[Arkham99]

xBCxRangers eredeti hozzászólása:

All about ease, costs, and keeping your games. Consoles are easy to use, a lot cheaper than a decent PC, and you'll never have to upgrade that console, to keep your games.

Here on PC, it's about hardcore gamers. A lot more expensive, constantly must be upgrade to meet specs, and if it's not, you lose your games.

These are likely reasons why console has a much bigger market, and phones and handhelds, even bigger.

consoles are not "a lot cheaper"... membership dues that are non-existent on PC, just so you can play the multiplayer component of games you own?... "you'll never have to upgrade to keep your games"?... my 360 library was dead in the water if I wanted to upgrade to a ONE... I had to buy 3 360s just to play those games for the consoles aren't built to last... lost track of how many of their controllers that crapped out on me... PC games still work after you upgrade, and they are generally cheaper to buy... sorry, but I spent more in 1 Year on XBOX than I did in 5 on PC... you're wrong...:-)

[Haruspex]

xBCxRangers eredeti hozzászólása:

All about ease, costs, and keeping your games. Consoles are easy to use, a lot cheaper than a decent PC, and you'll never have to upgrade that console, to keep your games.

Here on PC, it's about hardcore gamers. A lot more expensive, constantly must be upgrade to meet specs, and if it's not, you lose your games.

These are likely reasons why console has a much bigger market, and phones and handhelds, even bigger.

Agreed that consoles offer more ease and lower costs (at least initially). Keeping your games though? That seems to be rapidly changing for consoles as they are in a hurry to abandon physical copies in favor of digital ones.

Since PC has no real hardware generations like consoles do, when looking at digital copies you get to keep your games on PC much more than on consoles.

For example, 20 years ago I bought Half Life 2. On Steam, I still have Half Life 2, and I can still play and enjoy it on a new PC, or a Steam Deck. I expect in another 20 years I'll still be able to play and enjoy it on modern hardware.

20 years ago I also had a Gamecube. To legally play Gamecube games, one needs to have kept decades old hardware up and running. There's no way to play your Gamecube games on your Nintendo Switch, for example, save for certain re-released titles that they expect you to purchase again, like the 3d Mario collection.

Looking at digital it gets even worse. Using Nintendo as an example again, in those same 20 years, Nintendo has launched and subsequently shut down four different digital distribution platforms.

Fact is that consoles are very transitory. They want players to invest in the current consoles, only to abandon them entirely when a new console is released. Sometimes there's backwards compatibility, but this certainly isn't a guarantee. They'll resell you the same game, over and over again. I must have bought the original Zelda 4-5 times for different Nintendo systems. Now Nintendo demands I pay a recurring fee just to rent access to that same game I've already bought multiple times since the days of the NES.

Meanwhile, PC is PC. I can play today's games, tomorrow's games, or yesteryear's games. I could go dig up some 30+ year old floppy disk I bought when I was a kid, plug it into a USB floppy drive and play that game right now on a modern PC with no issues. That's the equivalent of being able to plug an NES cartridge into a Nintendo Switch.