Limit on claiming free ("Free on Demand") licenses

[BlackDraft]

Previously, one could claim 50 free games, demos and such per hour, but it's the third day in a row now that I'm getting locked out after only 29 and have to wait. Already contacted support, but the reply was no help at all.
Anybody having the same experience?

[Blaagh]

youre obviously abusing the system for nefarious reasen. justified to block you

[BlackDraft]

Originally posted by Blaagh:

youre obviously abusing the system for nefarious reasen. justified to block you

Okay, bye.

[Crazy Tiger]

I think I read somewhere that the rate got lowered from 50 to 30.

[BlackDraft]

Originally posted by Crazy Tiger:

I think I read somewhere that the rate got lowered from 50 to 30.

What a pain. Thanks for the confirmation, though.

[Ben Lubar]

Why do you need more than one new game every two minutes?

[BlackDraft]

I don't need a new game every two minutes. I want to claim all the new stuff that is being released every day without unnecessary delays. And with more than 30 new free releases almost every day, that now means I have to wait (at least) one hour to do so.

[Lone Wolf]

theres a cap on demos ??? why

[Amy]

xd

[Ben Lubar]

You can just add a game to your account when you decide you want to download it. That's what "free on demand" is for.

[BlackDraft]

You can just stop giving unsolicited advice. I asked a question and was already kindly given an answer by Crazy Tiger, not for your opinion on what I do. Your suggestion is also rather unhelpful considering how often games and demos are removed from the store, often without prior announcement, at which point I could not just add them my account anymore.

[Mad Scientist]

Originally posted by BlackDraft:

You can just stop giving unsolicited advice. I asked a question and was already kindly given an answer by Crazy Tiger, not for your opinion on what I do. Your suggestion is also rather unhelpful considering how often games and demos are removed from the store, often without prior announcement, at which point I could not just add them my account anymore.

Public forum and it's a user discussion forum, you're free to unsubscribe if you don't like other replies, but people may freely post in it if they like.

Not letting people subscribe to all free things is a good preventive measure to not have accounts made to bot-spam redemption to basically be used as a DDoS attack, so they're doing a good job making restrictions especially since that many redemptions for free stuff is entirely unrealistic, since the user is likely playing nothing of what's redeemed.

[BlackDraft]

Originally posted by Mad Scientist:

Originally posted by BlackDraft:

You can just stop giving unsolicited advice. I asked a question and was already kindly given an answer by Crazy Tiger, not for your opinion on what I do. Your suggestion is also rather unhelpful considering how often games and demos are removed from the store, often without prior announcement, at which point I could not just add them my account anymore.

Public forum and it's a user discussion forum, you're free to unsubscribe if you don't like other replies, but people may freely post in it if they like.

Not letting people subscribe to all free things is a good preventive measure to not have accounts made to bot-spam redemption to basically be used as a DDoS attack, so they're doing a good job making restrictions especially since that many redemptions for free stuff is entirely unrealistic, since the user is likely playing nothing of what's redeemed.

Public forum, but replies have to be on topic. And since I created the thread, I decide what its topic is: the question I asked, not the background of it.

Also, the DDoS idea is non-sense. Even if somebody wanted to attack Steam like this (which I have a hard time imagining), they would only be slightly slowed down by reduction from 50 to 30.
Furthermore, if anything, I will now use a script and create even more requests than before. Previously, I was just grabbing things as I was checking out what's new anyway, but if this becomes too bothersome, I'll automate it instead and initiate multiple redemption attempts per day.

[KalGimpa]

Originally posted by BlackDraft:

Originally posted by Mad Scientist:

Public forum and it's a user discussion forum, you're free to unsubscribe if you don't like other replies, but people may freely post in it if they like.

Not letting people subscribe to all free things is a good preventive measure to not have accounts made to bot-spam redemption to basically be used as a DDoS attack, so they're doing a good job making restrictions especially since that many redemptions for free stuff is entirely unrealistic, since the user is likely playing nothing of what's redeemed.

Public forum, but replies have to be on topic. And since I created the thread, I decide what its topic is: the question I asked, not the background of it.

yeah, no

i won't try and guess why they created this rule

but i do know that companies

that want you to download their stuff

do not do it for ♥♥♥♥♥ and giggles

something happened that made them say

"we really need to cap the amount of games people can activate in a given time"

[Mad Scientist]

Originally posted by BlackDraft:

Public forum, but replies have to be on topic. And since I created the thread, I decide what its topic is: the question I asked, not the background of it.

That is not at all how a public forum works, users don't get to label anything they simply dislike as "off topic" as that's bad faith, if it's on-topic then it is simply on-topic regardless of an op liking it or not; it's the publics discussion, it belongs to the community to be discussed by the community, you merely made a point of discussion.

Originally posted by BlackDraft:

Also, the DDoS idea is non-sense. Even if somebody wanted to attack Steam like this (which I have a hard time imagining), they would only be slightly slowed down by reduction from 50 to 30.

If they had UNLIMITED instead of a restriction people could make botnets to intentionally DDoS, hence why restrictions are a thing, that was easily inferred in the reply that restrictions exist to prevent that sort of scenario by allowing unlimited redemptions.

Originally posted by BlackDraft:

Furthermore, if anything, I will now use a script and create even more requests than before. Previously, I was just grabbing things as I was checking out what's new anyway, but if this becomes too bothersome, I'll automate it instead and initiate multiple redemption attempts per day.

Though they could take action on accounts using any form of AI or automation, there is always reasonable and unreasonable, which is why restrictions exist and why they are often made more strict; due to the abuse of a function.

[BlackDraft]

Originally posted by Mad Scientist:

That is not at all how a public forum works, users don't get to label anything they simply dislike as "off topic" as that's bad faith, if it's on-topic then it is simply on-topic regardless of an op liking it or not; it's the publics discussion, it belongs to the community to be discussed by the community, you merely made a point of discussion.

Bollocks. Following that logic, I could hijack any thread I want with some tangential topic and completely derail the actual discussion.
If people want to discuss another topic than the author of a thread, they're free to create their own. It's a public forum, after all.

Originally posted by Mad Scientist:

If they had UNLIMITED instead of a restriction people could make botnets to intentionally DDoS, hence why restrictions are a thing, that was easily inferred in the reply that restrictions exist to prevent that sort of scenario by allowing unlimited redemptions.

Okay, and? At no point have I asked for unlimited claims. In fact, I haven't even asked for a reversal/increase whatsoever, merely if others are seeing the same reduction.
How, then, is your hypothetical scenario in any way relevant?

Originally posted by Mad Scientist:

Though they could take action on accounts using any form of AI or automation, there is always reasonable and unreasonable, which is why restrictions exist and why they are often made more strict; due to the abuse of a function.

They provide an API for a reason. As long as one keeps within the set boundaries (which I would do, of course), nothing will happen.
Besides, stricter restriction are, themselves, often reason for more "abuse". Think of ads: Some people were blocking them, so they became more obnoxious, which caused even more people to block them, ...