is there a way to block all "AI" generated content on steam?

[generalking007]

Is there a setting somewhere that will prevent steam from ever recommending or showing e any of this sloppily made "AI" generated shovelware? I keep seeing it in my recommendations and I'd sooner put my gaming rig in a hydraulic press then purchase that ♥♥♥♥.

[Doctor Zalgo]

Originally posted by Boblin the Goblin:

Originally posted by Doctor Zalgo:

No, but it does have to have substantial similarity. We don't use the 'one drop rule' for copyright. You can't say 'those three pixels look kind of like some pixels in my drawings.'

I'd also caution artists against lobbying for a 'one drop rule' unless they want to be frozen out of art entirely due to the fact that Disney corporation has had thousands of artists slaving away in the salt mines for the last 50 years.

For the model to be trained, it needs to download the image.

It then uses those downloaded images to produce new images. Using pieces of them to mimic them as close as possible.

They aren't arguing for a 'one drop' rule. By the very nature of how it produces images, it needs to copy them.

So where is the copy? The copy that has substantial similarity. Also, you seem unclear on whether the infringing is occurring during training or generation, can you clear that up?

[Boblin the Goblin]

Originally posted by Doctor Zalgo:

Originally posted by Boblin the Goblin:

For the model to be trained, it needs to download the image.

It then uses those downloaded images to produce new images. Using pieces of them to mimic them as close as possible.

They aren't arguing for a 'one drop' rule. By the very nature of how it produces images, it needs to copy them.

So where is the copy? The copy that has substantial similarity. Also, you seem unclear on whether the infringing is occurring during training or generation, can you clear that up?

Both.

[Doctor Zalgo]

Originally posted by Boblin the Goblin:

Originally posted by Doctor Zalgo:

So where is the copy? The copy that has substantial similarity. Also, you seem unclear on whether the infringing is occurring during training or generation, can you clear that up?

Both.

Sure, as long as you understand that this interpretation is not borne out by either the legislation or the way technology actually works.

Beyond that, you also have to recognise that copyright isn't a natural state of being, its a right you are given by society because society believes there is some benefit to doing so. Since Disney has ♥♥♥♥♥♥ the copyright system beyond belief, its probably time to reassess exactly how much good IP laws are doing for society.

[ccrowles]

The thread has been heavily sidetracking to the morality or not of AI for... 6 pages and half, now. It would be nice if we could go back to OP's initial question, which was "is there a way to filter out AI content on steam".

Someone in the first page proposed a solution, but that didn't seem to work for me. If anyone else has other advices on how to filter it out, it would be nice to know.

[Ben Lubar]

Originally posted by ccrowles:

The thread has been heavily sidetracking to the morality or not of AI for... 6 pages and half, now. It would be nice if we could go back to OP's initial question, which was "is there a way to filter out AI content on steam".

Someone in the first page proposed a solution, but that didn't seem to work for me. If anyone else has other advices on how to filter it out, it would be nice to know.

The answer to the question in the OP is two words: not currently.

But the additional information you should know about that answer is that every game on Steam that uses generative AI, either during development or at runtime, is required to state that on the content survey all games must fill out before they can be listed on the store.

That information does appear on the store page, and the games that actually use AI-generated code or assets are mostly titles you've never heard of. Here's SteamDB's tracking of that category's recent entries and exits: https://steamdb.info/history/?filterkey=565 (Most of them are DLC for games that already have that tag.)

So the tag (a different kind of tag from the user-submitted ones you can filter by) does exist in the database, and it does have a visible effect on the store page (adding a section at the bottom explaining what kind of generative AI was/is used), but there's not currently a button that will automatically remove all of those games from your store. The good news is, there aren't a lot of those games compared to other games. You're not going to be drowning in them.

[ryonmoody]

They don't want to implement a tag for it, because it's profitable for Valve to have ten thousand shovelware AI slop titles like Capybara Totally Not An NFT Idle Clicker Hentai Haremframe of Duty selling a few dozen copies a piece. And the scammers that make AI assetflip trash will lie and say they aren't using it anyways.

So until Valve gains some ethics (lmao) and bans AI gen "content" outright, nothing will change.

[ccrowles]

Originally posted by Ben Lubar:

The answer to the question in the OP is two words: not currently.

But the additional information you should know about that answer is that every game on Steam that uses generative AI, either during development or at runtime, is required to state that on the content survey all games must fill out before they can be listed on the store.

That information does appear on the store page, and the games that actually use AI-generated code or assets are mostly titles you've never heard of. Here's SteamDB's tracking of that category's recent entries and exits: https://steamdb.info/history/?filterkey=565 (Most of them are DLC for games that already have that tag.)

So the tag (a different kind of tag from the user-submitted ones you can filter by) does exist in the database, and it does have a visible effect on the store page (adding a section at the bottom explaining what kind of generative AI was/is used), but there's not currently a button that will automatically remove all of those games from your store. The good news is, there aren't a lot of those games compared to other games. You're not going to be drowning in them.

Thanks for the extensive reply, it was very helpful. Is there a way on steamDB to actually search a game id + the generative AI tag? Asking because there are a lot of games listed on that page and (for obvious reasons) they are only loaded in groups, so even a "search in page" might not find it because it might be on an unloaded part of the list.

[Ben Lubar]

Originally posted by ccrowles:

Originally posted by Ben Lubar:

The answer to the question in the OP is two words: not currently.

But the additional information you should know about that answer is that every game on Steam that uses generative AI, either during development or at runtime, is required to state that on the content survey all games must fill out before they can be listed on the store.

That information does appear on the store page, and the games that actually use AI-generated code or assets are mostly titles you've never heard of. Here's SteamDB's tracking of that category's recent entries and exits: https://steamdb.info/history/?filterkey=565 (Most of them are DLC for games that already have that tag.)

So the tag (a different kind of tag from the user-submitted ones you can filter by) does exist in the database, and it does have a visible effect on the store page (adding a section at the bottom explaining what kind of generative AI was/is used), but there's not currently a button that will automatically remove all of those games from your store. The good news is, there aren't a lot of those games compared to other games. You're not going to be drowning in them.

Thanks for the extensive reply, it was very helpful. Is there a way on steamDB to actually search a game id + the generative AI tag? Asking because there are a lot of games listed on that page and (for obvious reasons) they are only loaded in groups, so even a "search in page" might not find it because it might be on an unloaded part of the list.

Yes, in the game's "metadata" tab, it'll have a row in the table labeled "aicontenttype" if it has generative AI or code/assets made using generative AI in it.

[Nahleera]

can we speak about banana, kiwi/ insert animals, fruit names here/ ai generated game here? Maybe ban them, one day, its polluating the clicker tag, hard.

[Ben Lubar]

Originally posted by Anolia:

can we speak about banana, kiwi/ insert animals, fruit names here/ ai generated game here? Maybe ban them, one day, its polluating the clicker tag, hard.

If you can find a rule they're breaking, I'm sure Valve would look into it. But nobody has found anything that those games have done that's against something beyond "I don't like it"

[ccrowles]

Originally posted by Ben Lubar:

Yes, in the game's "metadata" tab, it'll have a row in the table labeled "aicontenttype" if it has generative AI or code/assets made using generative AI in it.

Thanks again for the info, much appreciated!

[Saturn830]

Originally posted by Ben Lubar:

The answer to the question in the OP is two words: not currently.

But the additional information you should know about that answer is that every game on Steam that uses generative AI, either during development or at runtime, is required to state that on the content survey all games must fill out before they can be listed on the store.

That information does appear on the store page, and the games that actually use AI-generated code or assets are mostly titles you've never heard of. Here's SteamDB's tracking of that category's recent entries and exits: https://steamdb.info/history/?filterkey=565 (Most of them are DLC for games that already have that tag.)

So the tag (a different kind of tag from the user-submitted ones you can filter by) does exist in the database, and it does have a visible effect on the store page (adding a section at the bottom explaining what kind of generative AI was/is used), but there's not currently a button that will automatically remove all of those games from your store. The good news is, there aren't a lot of those games compared to other games. You're not going to be drowning in them.

This is a great help, although unfortunately not all 'developers' are truthful on their pages. GTFO uses llm content in their in-game paintings and last I saw made no mention of it on their salespage. Right now, it's up to consumers to hold the market accountable. Unfortunately, judging by not just Steam but everything from Etsy to Youtube those who support art and oppose theft are losing.