is there a way to block all "AI" generated content on steam?

[generalking007]

Is there a setting somewhere that will prevent steam from ever recommending or showing e any of this sloppily made "AI" generated shovelware? I keep seeing it in my recommendations and I'd sooner put my gaming rig in a hydraulic press then purchase that ♥♥♥♥.

[Boblin the Goblin]

引用自 Ben Lubar：

引用自 Channel_191：

They should have a tag and be forced to disclose use of AI generated assets.

You mean the thing that's been in place for nine months now?

https://store.steampowered.com/news/group/4145017/view/3862463747997849618

People want one of the tags that are attached to the game to be "AI Content" so the tag can be blocked. The current disclaimer can't be put into any filter on Steam.

[Ben Lubar]

引用自 Boblin the Goblin：

引用自 Ben Lubar：

You mean the thing that's been in place for nine months now?

https://store.steampowered.com/news/group/4145017/view/3862463747997849618

People want one of the tags that are attached to the game to be "AI Content" so the tag can be blocked. The current disclaimer can't be put into any filter on Steam.

The tags that people can block are user-created, and the other stuff in store preferences is system related. Like whether a game requires a VR headset or whether it runs on macOS.

There's nothing else in the category where the AI disclaimer is that currently has a way to block it on the store. It's a brand new category.

Consumers are expected to make informed decisions. Don't buy a game without taking at least the most trivial glance at its store page. Steam hasn't recommended me a single generative AI based game since they started requiring games to label themselves as such. It's not a very common occurrance.

And more importantly, if they punished games for correctly labeling themselves, the games would be incentivized to lie.

It's the same reason they can't treat the new version of free demo store pages differently from free games in any way. If there's a reason to evade the system, the system will fail.

[Boblin the Goblin]

引用自 Ben Lubar：

引用自 Boblin the Goblin：

People want one of the tags that are attached to the game to be "AI Content" so the tag can be blocked. The current disclaimer can't be put into any filter on Steam.

The tags that people can block are user-created, and the other stuff in store preferences is system related. Like whether a game requires a VR headset or whether it runs on macOS.

There's nothing else in the category where the AI disclaimer is that currently has a way to block it on the store. It's a brand new category.

Consumers are expected to make informed decisions. Don't buy a game without taking at least the most trivial glance at its store page. Steam hasn't recommended me a single generative AI based game since they started requiring games to label themselves as such. It's not a very common occurrance.

And more importantly, if they punished games for correctly labeling themselves, the games would be incentivized to lie.

It's the same reason they can't treat the new version of free demo store pages differently from free games in any way. If there's a reason to evade the system, the system will fail.

Steam does have "official tags" like what happened to the "boomer shooter" tag.

Saying the tag is a punishment is like saying the "LGBT" tag is a punishment because people will avoid or blacklist that tag as well.

[Ben Lubar]

引用自 Boblin the Goblin：

Steam does have "official tags" like what happened to the "boomer shooter" tag.

Saying the tag is a punishment is like saying the "LGBT" tag is a punishment because people will avoid or blacklist that tag as well.

No, I'm saying that the answers to the content survey are not user-applied tags. They're a completely separate system.

[Boblin the Goblin]

引用自 Ben Lubar：

引用自 Boblin the Goblin：

Steam does have "official tags" like what happened to the "boomer shooter" tag.

Saying the tag is a punishment is like saying the "LGBT" tag is a punishment because people will avoid or blacklist that tag as well.

No, I'm saying that the answers to the content survey are not user-applied tags. They're a completely separate system.

I know.

People want a tag so it can be filtered. Like what Valve did with the "Boomer Shooter" tag.

[Start_Running]

引用自 Ben Lubar：

引用自 Start_Running：

And have you seen that survey?

Yes, because I have filled it out. The "mature content description" section of this page is the exact text I wrote as part of the survey:

https://store.steampowered.com/app/563560/Alien_Swarm_Reactive_Drop/

Good to know then. I guess they could just do a filter.

[davidb11]

Saying that you have to have a moral reason to go against AI is laughable absurd.

It makes no sense and it's an insult to the concept of morality.

AI isn't evil incarnate.
AI doesn't even understand morality yet.
Being against it morally is ludicrous because you're basically being against all technology at that point.
Because all technology can be used for good and evil.

AI isn't even capable of being something you can have a moral outrage over.
Good grief.

That can only apply to actual humans.
No one can have a moral outrage over a gorilla in the Zoo.
And that's what having a moral outrage over AI is like.

[generalking007]

引用自 davidb11：

引用自 generalking007：

yes all ai generated work is bad. it involves using an automated theft machine that randomly grinds up the work of actually talented people to spit out a tube of processed creativity loaf.

its the SPAM of art, if SPAM tasted twice as bad.

That's not how any of this works.
At all.
AI isn't to blame.
It's the laziness of Developers to churn out crap over and over as they have for literally over 40 years.

AI was a pipe dream when the first crap games were made.
Don't go after AI.
Right now it's not even as smart as a 4 year old kid. LOL.

Would you go pick on a baby?

id pick on the giant corporate made art theft machines any day. the giant talent sucking auto art factories trained on data they had no legal right to even use, for the purpose of one day automating the artist out of art.

ill go after "AI" every day of the week. its not a baby, its some jackass in a suit who thinks if he makes this work he can stop paying actually talented people.

[davidb11]

引用自 generalking007：

引用自 davidb11：

That's not how any of this works.
At all.
AI isn't to blame.
It's the laziness of Developers to churn out crap over and over as they have for literally over 40 years.

AI was a pipe dream when the first crap games were made.
Don't go after AI.
Right now it's not even as smart as a 4 year old kid. LOL.

Would you go pick on a baby?

id pick on the giant corporate made art theft machines any day. the giant talent sucking auto art factories trained on data they had no legal right to even use, for the purpose of one day automating the artist out of art.

ill go after "AI" every day of the week. its not a baby, its some jackass in a suit who thinks if he makes this work he can stop paying actually talented people.

Literally nothing you said has anything to do with AI at all.
Why make up stuff?
AI isn't CAPABLE of sentience!


It literally can't be claimed to be a jackass in a suit.
LOL wut.

Do you even understand the nonsensical claim that is?
A human being is not AI.
A Human being using AI for evil DOES NOT MAKE AI evil.

You are literally no different than the people who are trying to ban all guns ever because criminals can use them to commit crimes.
That's human nature!

NOT AI.
Do not conflate the two.

You're literally against the concept of technological progress.
Just because people can use it poorly.
Not how it works.

[generalking007]

引用自 davidb11：

Saying that you have to have a moral reason to go against AI is laughable absurd.

It makes no sense and it's an insult to the concept of morality.

AI isn't evil incarnate.
AI doesn't even understand morality yet.
Being against it morally is ludicrous because you're basically being against all technology at that point.
Because all technology can be used for good and evil.

AI isn't even capable of being something you can have a moral outrage over.
Good grief.

That can only apply to actual humans.
No one can have a moral outrage over a gorilla in the Zoo.
And that's what having a moral outrage over AI is like.

whats laughable is your flailing attempt to wish away that humans made this, humans run it, humans tell it what to do.

it is a program made to steal ♥♥♥♥ so they dont have to pay artists anymore.

so they dont have to pay writers anymore.

so they dont have to pay animators anymore.

so they dont have to pay coders anymore.

being against corpo ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ attempting to gut the entire creative sphere is the only reasonable response to the situation.

[davidb11]

引用自 generalking007：

引用自 davidb11：

Saying that you have to have a moral reason to go against AI is laughable absurd.

It makes no sense and it's an insult to the concept of morality.

AI isn't evil incarnate.
AI doesn't even understand morality yet.
Being against it morally is ludicrous because you're basically being against all technology at that point.
Because all technology can be used for good and evil.

AI isn't even capable of being something you can have a moral outrage over.
Good grief.

That can only apply to actual humans.
No one can have a moral outrage over a gorilla in the Zoo.
And that's what having a moral outrage over AI is like.

whats laughable is your flailing attempt to wish away that humans made this, humans run it, humans tell it what to do.

it is a program made to steal ♥♥♥♥ so they dont have to pay artists anymore.

so they dont have to pay writers anymore.

so they dont have to pay animators anymore.

so they dont have to pay coders anymore.

being against corpo ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ attempting to gut the entire creative sphere is the only reasonable response to the situation.

Why are you constantly making up lies about what AI is?
It is and has been used for decades.
No one can flat out lie and claim it's a program designed to steal art.
LOL wut.

That's not evne a logical claim.
Stop making up nonsense that has nothing to do with AI.
A PROGRAM IS NOT AI.
Good lord, stop this!

[generalking007]

引用自 davidb11：

引用自 generalking007：

id pick on the giant corporate made art theft machines any day. the giant talent sucking auto art factories trained on data they had no legal right to even use, for the purpose of one day automating the artist out of art.

ill go after "AI" every day of the week. its not a baby, its some jackass in a suit who thinks if he makes this work he can stop paying actually talented people.

Literally nothing you said has anything to do with AI at all.
Why make up stuff?
AI isn't CAPABLE of sentience!


It literally can't be claimed to be a jackass in a suit.
LOL wut.

Do you even understand the nonsensical claim that is?
A human being is not AI.
A Human being using AI for evil DOES NOT MAKE AI evil.

You are literally no different than the people who are trying to ban all guns ever because criminals can use them to commit crimes.
That's human nature!

NOT AI.
Do not conflate the two.

please learn to read before commenting on my posts. i do not have the patience to explain every line word by word if you insist on misunderstanding them to such an intense degree.

i hear dr seuss is an excellent primer on basic reading comprehension, try some green eggs and ham or cat in the hat, and then come back and try this again.

[davidb11]

Attacking me destroys your credibility.
I have read everything you said, and I have countered your claims.

Sorry, but you're not allowed to make up blatant lies.
That goes against all Debate and discussion rules.

[shado]

Community made tags shouldn't be trusted, why? You don't trust your fellow gamers to label things correctly?

[Doctor Zalgo]

引用自 Boblin the Goblin：

引用自 Ben Lubar：

No, I'm saying that the answers to the content survey are not user-applied tags. They're a completely separate system.

I know.

People want a tag so it can be filtered. Like what Valve did with the "Boomer Shooter" tag.

It's probably better to have a tag for games that don't use AI because otherwise your tag will eventually just be 'every game'.