In regards to the MS/Valve acquisition rumors...

[xBCxRangers]

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I hope it's okay to post this vid, actually by a YTer i very rarely agree.

But he did come out with some issues i never knew, that Mr Newell only owns 25% of Valve?

In any event, many here would maybe agree with the video. Though i think it's not the end of the world.

If the mods find it we cannot post the vids, or don't like the topic what not, they are welcome of course to lock or omit it.

[HikariLight]

Valve/Steam is competition for Microsoft in the PC gaming market.
The FTC won't allow it.
Buying up the competition to reduce the amount of competition is illegal.

[Heraclius Caesar]

Originally posted by xBCxRangers:

that Mr Newell only owns 25% of Valve?

Wow seriously? I thought he owned at least 40-50% with the rest being divided up among private investors.

[xBCxRangers]

Originally posted by HikariLight:

Valve/Steam is competition for Microsoft in the PC gaming market.
The FTC won't allow it.
Buying up the competition to reduce the amount of competition is illegal.

I guess that's what they said about A/B, Bethesda and others. In fact i just heard IGN just bought some of the major gaming news outlets.

One thing we do know, is we continually hear, how these companies can do whatever they want.

And it would seem, a company not publically traded, and owned by a relative few friends, Mr Newell having the lowest amount of shares, can sell whatever they want for cash.

But none of us are lawyers. We do know, the FTC was not successful in the past in regards to MS, that i know of.

[Aachen]

Yes, “privately-owned” is not a synonym meant only to describe entities which are solely-owned.

That’s all you posted the video to discuss?

[Brian9824]

Originally posted by xBCxRangers:

Originally posted by HikariLight:

Valve/Steam is competition for Microsoft in the PC gaming market.
The FTC won't allow it.
Buying up the competition to reduce the amount of competition is illegal.

I guess that's what they said about A/B, Bethesda and others. In fact i just heard IGN just bought some of the major gaming news outlets.

One thing we do know, is we continually here, how these companies can do whatever they want. And it would seem, a company not publically traded, and owned by a relative few friends, Mr Newell having the lowest amount of shares, can sell whatever they want for cash.

But none of us are lawyers. We do know, the FTC was not successful in the past in regards to MS, that i know of.

Speak for yourself as already mentioned the FTC and others allowed the Activision merger because Microsoft made a series of concessions and legal promises. One of which is they promised that future titles wouldn't be exclusive like they had previously planned. Up until they made those concessions the FTC was going to block them

They also forfeited the cloud streaming rights to Ubisoft to avoid a monopoly with streaming among other decisions. This led to a reevaluation that allowed the merger to very narrowly go thru

[xBCxRangers]

Originally posted by Aachen:

Yes, “privately-owned” is not a synonym meant only to describe entities which are solely-owned.

That’s all you posted the video to discuss?

No of course not, i just brought up one of the points. But its of course open for discussion, now that we at least have a basies as to what's being presented.

That it may not at all be up to Mr Newell. That in fact, MS tried buy Valve before (i never knew that) but for only a petit amount.

In short when there's, smoke, there is fire i would think.

[Bo]

Do we really need yet another thread about this?

[xBCxRangers]

Originally posted by Gay Muslim:

Do we really need yet another thread about this?

Well i only done it, being there is a video to accompany what we're talking about, that bring up matters many of us may have never knew, and can bring context to this matter, rather than just guessing. We tend to put all the onus, on Mr Newell, on many matters. But he may not have much of a say anymore on them.

[xBCxRangers]

Originally posted by brian9824:

Originally posted by xBCxRangers:

I guess that's what they said about A/B, Bethesda and others. In fact i just heard IGN just bought some of the major gaming news outlets.

One thing we do know, is we continually here, how these companies can do whatever they want. And it would seem, a company not publically traded, and owned by a relative few friends, Mr Newell having the lowest amount of shares, can sell whatever they want for cash.

But none of us are lawyers. We do know, the FTC was not successful in the past in regards to MS, that i know of.

Speak for yourself as already mentioned the FTC and others allowed the Activision merger because Microsoft made a series of concessions and legal promises. One of which is they promised that future titles wouldn't be exclusive like they had previously planned. Up until they made those concessions the FTC was going to block them

They also forfeited the cloud streaming rights to Ubisoft to avoid a monopoly with streaming among other decisions. This led to a reevaluation that allowed the merger to very narrowly go thru

And they may make promises here. This YTer is a professional, where as you and i are not, and he seems to be pleading, and wishing.

But he does not say, it will never happen. He knows better than to do that. And i hope you're not saying that.

[Aachen]

Originally posted by xBCxRangers:

…. This YTer is a professional ....

A professional what?

[Animus]

Originally posted by xBCxRangers:

Originally posted by brian9824:

Speak for yourself as already mentioned the FTC and others allowed the Activision merger because Microsoft made a series of concessions and legal promises. One of which is they promised that future titles wouldn't be exclusive like they had previously planned. Up until they made those concessions the FTC was going to block them

They also forfeited the cloud streaming rights to Ubisoft to avoid a monopoly with streaming among other decisions. This led to a reevaluation that allowed the merger to very narrowly go thru

And they may make promises here. This YTer is a professional, where as you and i are not, and he seems to be pleading, and wishing.

But he does not say, it will never happen. He knows better than to do that. And i hope you're not saying that.

Aren't you doing the exact opposite of that by claiming it's guaranteed to happen?

[Start_Running]

Originally posted by Gay Muslim:

Do we really need yet another thread about this?

A youtuber said a thing.
people gotta talk about it.
Anyyone who knows knows this is just a symptom of a relatively slow drama cycle
FTC would not allow MS to buy Valve anyway abnd MS literally can't afford to buy Valve..
Like legit. They are already having to fire people left and right, as well as find innovative ways to shoe horn adevertising intoo their products so they can make money.

Then there's the fact that Gabe..isn't terribly fond of MS.
Every wonder why Valve has made such an effort to disentangle POC gaming from the stranglehold of the Windows OS?

[xBCxRangers]

Originally posted by Animus:

Originally posted by xBCxRangers:

And they may make promises here. This YTer is a professional, where as you and i are not, and he seems to be pleading, and wishing.

But he does not say, it will never happen. He knows better than to do that. And i hope you're not saying that.

Aren't you doing the exact opposite of that by claiming it's guaranteed to happen?

In a word, no. But i would say, where there is smoke, there is fire. And i'd probably say "likely" to happen, rather than not at all.

[xBCxRangers]

Originally posted by Start_Running:

Originally posted by Gay Muslim:

Do we really need yet another thread about this?

A youtuber said a thing.
people gotta talk about it.
Anyyone who knows knows this is just a symptom of a relatively slow drama cycle
FTC would not allow MS to buy Valve anyway abnd MS literally can't afford to buy Valve..
Like legit. They are already having to fire people left and right, as well as find innovative ways to shoe horn adevertising intoo their products so they can make money.

Then there's the fact that Gabe..isn't terribly fond of MS.
Every wonder why Valve has made such an effort to disentangle POC gaming from the stranglehold of the Windows OS?

But Gabe only owns 25% of the company. Idk if it much matters, what he may think. Though, he does seem to have very good relationships with MS from what i can tell.

[Animus]

Originally posted by xBCxRangers:

Originally posted by Animus:

Aren't you doing the exact opposite of that by claiming it's guaranteed to happen?

In a word, no. But i would say, where there is smoke, there is fire. And i'd probably say "likely" to happen, rather than not at all.

You've said that like five times now, and it means ZERO to the actual situation at hand. Rumors are not smoke.

I start a rumor about you and it gains traction, does that mean it's likely to be true? After all, where there's smoke, there's fire.