A tag that I think is needed.

[The Evil Soultaker]

Since tags are user generated, I'm hoping some of you will agree to help me in tagging these recent visual novel games coming out to help users searching for 2D/Japanese VN's filter them out easier while searching.

It also would be a nice tag for people who want to blacklist these types of games specifically.

The tag I'm suggesting is:
"Daz Studio"

I think this tag would make sense and be very useful, since a lot of these (seemingly shovelware) visual novel games coming out recently have seemed to primarily utilize Daz Studio assets.

Sort of how "RPGMaker" has its own tag made to separate all of the various shovelware RPGMaker games from the more custom built RPG games.

Examples of some of these "Daz Studio Visual Novels" (Warning links will most likely have NSFW content):

https://store.steampowered.com/app/2820590/Sex_College/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1350650/FreshWomen__Season_1/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1126320/Being_a_DIK__Season_1/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2833810/SEX_Campus/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2649970/Steps_of_Debauchery/

I hope any of you reading would consider adding said tag to any games you find that match the above criteria, so that it may hopefully become popular enough to be officially implemented.

Thank you.

[miakisfan]

I really think it would just be better if the people complaining about these games just made it so they can't see them and moved on with their lives instead of having to change this and that to please them. It is too bad that complaining is too commonplace nowadays but normal for some people who have nothing better to do in their lives when it comes to gaming.

Once you start accommodating them they will start on other things seeing if they will be accommodated with those issues too. That's how Liberals work.

It is like the old saying once you let the devil in your house you can never get rid of him.

[BJWyler]

No, OP, I have better things to do with my time. If you don't want to see those types of games, then turn off the adult options on your account.

[The Evil Soultaker]

BJWyler původně napsal:

No, OP, I have better things to do with my time. If you don't want to see those types of games, then turn off the adult options on your account.

It has nothing to do with "adult content" it has to do with them being Visual Novels using 3D Daz Studio assets, when people who are looking for Specifically for 2D visual novels or for another example, 3D Visual Novels with a stylized aesthetic to mimic 2D. They would have to sift through the Daz Studio VN's to find the things they're looking for when it could be much easier if we tagged and categorized those games.

And that's perfectly fine, you don't have to tag them, I'm just offering a suggestion for people willing to help in adding more tags.

miakisfan původně napsal:

I really think it would just be better if the people complaining about these games just made it so they can't see them and moved on with their lives instead of having to change this and that to please them. It is too bad that complaining is too commonplace nowadays but normal for some people who have nothing better to do in their lives when it comes to gaming.

Once you start accommodating them they will start on other things seeing if they will be accommodated with those issues too. That's how Liberals work.

It is like the old saying once you let the devil in your house you can never get rid of him.

I have no idea what you're talking about dude, I'm talking about a video game storefront tagging system and how it could be improved with new tag categories, I don't know why you're going on about "liberals" or "accommodating them".

I'm literally not complaining, I think these games should have a place on the storefront and should be listed, and am happy for them to be listed, but I just think that the tags should be a little more specialized.

[Chika Ogiue]

You lost me here:

The Evil Soultaker původně napsal:

Sort of how "RPGMaker" has its own tag made to separate all of the various shovelware RPGMaker games from the more custom built RPG games.

Using RPG Maker doesn't make a game shovelware in and of itself. There are some really good RPG Maker made games and even major Japanese developers / publishers use it.

[Amaterasu]

The Evil Soultaker původně napsal:

BJWyler původně napsal:

No, OP, I have better things to do with my time. If you don't want to see those types of games, then turn off the adult options on your account.

It has nothing to do with "adult content" it has to do with them being Visual Novels using 3D Daz Studio assets, when people who are looking for Specifically for 2D visual novels or for another example, 3D Visual Novels with a stylized aesthetic to mimic 2D. They would have to sift through the Daz Studio VN's to find the things they're looking for when it could be much easier if we tagged and categorized those games.

And that's perfectly fine, you don't have to tag them, I'm just offering a suggestion for people willing to help in adding more tags.

miakisfan původně napsal:

I really think it would just be better if the people complaining about these games just made it so they can't see them and moved on with their lives instead of having to change this and that to please them. It is too bad that complaining is too commonplace nowadays but normal for some people who have nothing better to do in their lives when it comes to gaming.

Once you start accommodating them they will start on other things seeing if they will be accommodated with those issues too. That's how Liberals work.

It is like the old saying once you let the devil in your house you can never get rid of him.

I have no idea what you're talking about dude, I'm talking about a video game storefront tagging system and how it could be improved with new tag categories, I don't know why you're going on about "liberals" or "accommodating them".

I'm literally not complaining, I think these games should have a place on the storefront and should be listed, and am happy for them to be listed, but I just think that the tags should be a little more specialized.

Because Everything has to be made about the liberals. That's how political discourse works. Stub your toe? "THE OTHER SIDE PUT THAT TABLE IN MY WAY!"

[Amaterasu]

Chika Ogiue původně napsal:

You lost me here:

The Evil Soultaker původně napsal:

Sort of how "RPGMaker" has its own tag made to separate all of the various shovelware RPGMaker games from the more custom built RPG games.

Using RPG Maker doesn't make a game shovelware in and of itself. There are some really good RPG Maker made games and even major Japanese developers / publishers use it.

Indeed. Any easy to use game making program that allows anyone, even a literal child, make a game is going to end up having a wide gulf in terms of polish, quality, and completion. My own game is a RPG maker project. I don't have a whole lot of custom work, but I'm trying to get the most of what I got access to. While trying to string together both a good game and a dark and mature story that has periods of lightheartedness to keep it from being incredibly depressing to the point where the characters should logically just snap mentally.

[The Evil Soultaker]

Chika Ogiue původně napsal:

You lost me here:

The Evil Soultaker původně napsal:

Sort of how "RPGMaker" has its own tag made to separate all of the various shovelware RPGMaker games from the more custom built RPG games.

Using RPG Maker doesn't make a game shovelware in and of itself. There are some really good RPG Maker made games and even major Japanese developers / publishers use it.

Yes I agree, but I'm just saying that the ones that are shovelware, are very obvious they use RPGMaker, (i.e using stock assets, having similar sounds, u.i, etc.) which is why they get categorized in that specific tag, and that's what I'm saying with these visual novels, it's very obvious they use Daz Studio for the visuals, which I know a lot of people looking for a lot of more japanese style VN's wouldn't be looking for, as Daz models typically strive more for a distinctly more realistic look.

But it would also allow people who are looking for these types of games who prefer the more realistic look over the 2D/stylized aesthetic to find them easier.

And I think utilizing the pre-existing "realistic" tag to categorize it that way, muddies up the tags since "realism" in this context typically is in reference to the gameplay or the setting, not typically just the visuals alone.

[The Evil Soultaker]

Bumping

I'd also want this thread to be as a way for people who are willing to help tag these games, have a general agreed upon tag for them.

That way there's no confusion or mix ups when tagging these games and is more likely for the tag to be accepted.

[The nameless Gamer]

You can ignore publishers/developers if they have their own page set up.

[The Evil Soultaker]

The nameless Commander původně napsal:

You can ignore publishers/developers if they have their own page set up.

Yeah but this is multiple different developers/publishers making these daz studio visual novels. I think a tag specifying the game would just be easier to weed them out.

[ReBoot]

The Evil Soultaker původně napsal:

The nameless Commander původně napsal:

You can ignore publishers/developers if they have their own page set up.

Yeah but this is multiple different developers/publishers making these daz studio visual novels. I think a tag specifying the game would just be easier to weed them out.

Then get working! Be the change you want to see. Don't ask others, lead by example. If you want to see this happen, start making it happen, then others may (or may not) join.

[The Evil Soultaker]

ReBoot původně napsal:

The Evil Soultaker původně napsal:

Yeah but this is multiple different developers/publishers making these daz studio visual novels. I think a tag specifying the game would just be easier to weed them out.

Then get working! Be the change you want to see. Don't ask others, lead by example. If you want to see this happen, start making it happen, then others may (or may not) join.

That's what I'm doing.

I've been tagging all of them with the tag, but tags are community made, so I'm just letting people know if they want to help me, to use the specific tag that I've been using to help move it along and get it accepted.

[BJWyler]

The Evil Soultaker původně napsal:

ReBoot původně napsal:

Then get working! Be the change you want to see. Don't ask others, lead by example. If you want to see this happen, start making it happen, then others may (or may not) join.

That's what I'm doing.

I've been tagging all of them with the tag, but tags are community made, so I'm just letting people know if they want to help me, to use the specific tag that I've been using to help move it along and get it accepted.

And now you have. That's all you can do. Either others will use the tag or not. Don't be surprised if no one else actually cares about as much as you do, and the tag doesn't catch on.

Bumping threads is against forum posting rules by the way.

[The Evil Soultaker]

BJWyler původně napsal:

The Evil Soultaker původně napsal:

That's what I'm doing.

I've been tagging all of them with the tag, but tags are community made, so I'm just letting people know if they want to help me, to use the specific tag that I've been using to help move it along and get it accepted.

And now you have. That's all you can do. Either others will use the tag or not. Don't be surprised if no one else actually cares about as much as you do, and the tag doesn't catch on.

Bumping threads is against forum posting rules by the way.

The bump was actually constructive though, adding more context to the initial post, so it isn't against forum rules.

It honestly seems like you're just searching for something to hark on me on because you disagree with my proposal.

Regardless, I don't see why you guys are so hostile toward my thread? Like if you don't care you didn't have to comment on it to begin with.

In fact it would've actually "helped your cause" making the thread be buried and nobody would've seen it. I would've thought then that literally nobody cared and that would've been the end of it.

So you've perpetuated your own perceived "problem". I legitimately don't understand what your problem is.

I wouldn't even need to make a thread like this if proposed tags were publicly available to just view and be voted on or something.

[The Evil Soultaker]

BJWyler původně napsal:

The Evil Soultaker původně napsal:

That's what I'm doing.

I've been tagging all of them with the tag, but tags are community made, so I'm just letting people know if they want to help me, to use the specific tag that I've been using to help move it along and get it accepted.

And now you have. That's all you can do. Either others will use the tag or not. Don't be surprised if no one else actually cares about as much as you do, and the tag doesn't catch on.

Seriously it's not like there's a limit to how many threads can be posted. Why do you care so much that something you perceive as a "useless thread" or something is posted?

It's this type of behavior that turns people away from making suggestions on the steam discussions page to begin with. This dismissive behavior and condescending attitude, treating everyone with an idea or suggestion as just an "idiot".