Epic Games Store Dropping Windows 7 and Windows 10 32bit Support in June

[Boblin the Goblin]

EGS announced that they will be dropping support for Windows 7 and Windows 10 32bit this June.

Since it was such a huge deal that Valve announced 8 months before dropping support for Windows 7, I feel people should know that they are not the only ones. The difference is Valve will continue to support Windows 10 32bit while Epic will not.

https://winaero.com/epic-games-store-drops-support-for-windows-7-8-starting-in-june-2024/

[WolfEisberg]

SlowMango původně napsal:

Mad Scientist původně napsal:

Isn't it "anti-consumer" for egs to drop 7/8 support? Since that was claimed about Steam?
Also not all EGS games can be launched without the eg app.

AFAIK, those apps still launch EGS in a way to verify the the games. So every EGS game will work for the moment.

Nope; both of those options can be used without even having EGS client installed on the users PC. They are literally replacements for the EGS client.

[Boblin the Goblin]

WolfEisberg původně napsal:

SlowMango původně napsal:

AFAIK, those apps still launch EGS in a way to verify the the games. So every EGS game will work for the moment.

Nope; both of those options can be used without even having EGS client installed on the users PC. They are literally replacements for the EGS client.

Never said EGS had to be installed.

They still use the verification method that is built into EGS.

[WolfEisberg]

SlowMango původně napsal:

WolfEisberg původně napsal:

Nope; both of those options can be used without even having EGS client installed on the users PC. They are literally replacements for the EGS client.

Never said EGS had to be installed.

They still use the verification method that is built into EGS.

of course there is verification, point is that Windows 7/W10 32bit people have options to still download and play their games without even using the EGS client at all.

[Boblin the Goblin]

WolfEisberg původně napsal:

SlowMango původně napsal:

Never said EGS had to be installed.

They still use the verification method that is built into EGS.

of course there is verification, point is that Windows 7/W10 32bit people have options to still download and play their games without even using the EGS client at all.

Until theat verification method no longer works on Windows 7.

[Mad Scientist]

WolfEisberg původně napsal:

SlowMango původně napsal:

There is no guarantee that Epic will not modify the API that those applications depend on for connecting to Epic services.

Doesn't matter, for now these are the options people have. Those people can deal with it, IF it ever happens. For now what matters is they do have other options.

That very much matters because if they also drop support, then that means people would have to use the client that protects those games, just like all the other store clients, for any games that have DRM.

so isnt egs dropping support considered "anti-consumer" like many egs supports claimed when Steam was doing it? Afterall, we're having the same standards correct?

[Crashed]

xBCxRangers původně napsal:

SlowMango původně napsal:

He's implying a service like GFN that will allow access to your EGS library.

GFN doesn't even currently allow access to a complete Steam library because of licensing.

They may actually give us a Win 11 desktop on their new machine. Who knows. The sharks are circling though, that's for sure.

We're gonna be PC brothers

Of course streaming game services will have significant latency that a physical, local Windows 10/11 or Linux system won't have, or will have less of, as the A/V output doesn't have to be turned into Internet packets and transferred over the Net but instead goes to your TV and speakers with just a few meters of cable.

[Nite69]

brian9824 původně napsal:

I really don't get why they would drop Win 10 32 bit support, that bit makes absolutely no sense at all.

why does it not make sense? systems made within the last 15 years or so are all 64 bit if you still have 32 bit hardware thats your own fault

[Mad Scientist]

WolfEisberg původně napsal:

SlowMango původně napsal:

AFAIK, those apps still launch EGS in a way to verify the the games. So every EGS game will work for the moment.

Nope; both of those options can be used without even having EGS client installed on the users PC. They are literally replacements for the EGS client.

I very much doubt this works for all egs games or that they would be ok with their data-collecting client be replaced by something else.

I already know some games appear to absolutely want the client, anything else is usually questionable bypassing.

[lailaamell]

xBCxRangers původně napsal:

I thought we were told they already did. Guess not. Anyhow, i never used Epic, but if it's anything like this, that may take years to sort.

But interesting, winds of Win 10 purges, starting now lol. I'm gonna break out the popcorn when that happens here.

Win 10 32 bit has been dead for year for yeah 32 bit cpu s arent really made anymore and likely for it was made for very old pcs who cant do 64bit the last 32 bit cpu was made in 2002 so i dont think many would be affected by ending 32 bit of an several years dead ver of win 10 unless you really want you have to only have 4gb ram

[Nx Machina]

WolfEisberg původně napsal:

The good news for these people is they have these options that are replacements for EGS, and still be able to download and play their games, including having cloud saves.

For Win 10 32 Bit users they can use:
- Heroic Launcher
- Playnite with the Legendary Addon

For Windows 7 users:
- Playnite with the Legendary Addon

People can use those options for Steam also but the narrative was Valve dropping support was anti-consumer and lo and behold, so is Epic based on that narrative.

Starting June of the current year, Epic Games will cease support for the Windows 7 and 8 operating systems within the Epic Games Store client. A similar move applies to the 32-bit version of Windows 10. As a result, the Epic Games Store will only be compatible with 64-bit Windows 10, Windows 11, and macOS 10.13 or later.

[WolfEisberg]

Mad Scientist původně napsal:

WolfEisberg původně napsal:

Nope; both of those options can be used without even having EGS client installed on the users PC. They are literally replacements for the EGS client.

I very much doubt this works for all egs games or that they would be ok with their data-collecting client be replaced by something else.

I already know some games appear to absolutely want the client, anything else is usually questionable bypassing.

Nope; it works with 100% of games, even games that want to launch EGS, those games that want to launch EGS simply want to check for ownership, and that still happens through these replacement clients.

[WolfEisberg]

Nx Machina původně napsal:

WolfEisberg původně napsal:

The good news for these people is they have these options that are replacements for EGS, and still be able to download and play their games, including having cloud saves.

For Win 10 32 Bit users they can use:
- Heroic Launcher
- Playnite with the Legendary Addon

For Windows 7 users:
- Playnite with the Legendary Addon

People can use those options for Steam also but the narrative was Valve dropping support was anti-consumer and lo and behold, so is Epic based on that narrative.

People cannot use those as replacements for Steam, there is no replacement for the Steam client, for games on Steam you have to use the official Steam app to download the games and to use cloud saves.

[Nx Machina]

WolfEisberg původně napsal:

People cannot use those as replacements for Steam, there is no replacement for the Steam client, for games on Steam you have to use the official Steam app to download the games and to use cloud saves.

After a secondary check they don't support Steam but that does not alter Epic and Timmy being anti-consumer by removing support for Win 7, 8, and 10 (32bit) from their client, a point you avoided.

The irony is you are posting about workarounds to the Epic client while contradicting yourself on another thread:

WolfEisberg původně napsal:

Using convoluted work arounds that may or may not work isn't acceptable, and doesn't excuse the anti-consumer actions that Steam does.

[WolfEisberg]

Nx Machina původně napsal:

After a secondary check they don't support Steam but that does not alter Epic and Timmy being anti-consumer by removing support for Win 7, 8, and 10 (32bit) from their client, a point you avoided.

Why would I need to comment on a point that I was never against in the first place? I never said Valve was being anti-consumer for dropping support for Operating system.

The irony is you are posting about workarounds to the Epic client while contradicting yourself on another thread:

WolfEisberg původně napsal:

Using convoluted work arounds that may or may not work isn't acceptable, and doesn't excuse the anti-consumer actions that Steam does.

Good job at taking what I said completely out of context by taking that quote from a completely different conversation about a completely different subject and then pretending that I said it about this Operating system stuff.

by the way, installing a different client is no different then installing any other client, its just as easy as installing Epic, Steam, GOG clients.

[Nx Machina]

WolfEisberg původně napsal:

Why would I need to comment on a point that I was never against in the first place? I never said Valve was being anti-consumer for dropping support for Operating system.

Did i state you did? Nope but you do like to post about Valve being anti-consumer while ignoring Epic.

Anti-consumer:

1) Epic dropping support for Win 7, 8 and Win 10 (32 bit) in April 2024.

2) Epic exclusives yet Timmy said consumers should have choice where they get their games.

3) Timmy's lie about passing on the savings for developers to the consumers.

4) The $520 million fine by the FTC for:

"design tricks...to dupe millions of players into making unintentional purchases" in Fortnite.

The fine stems from what the FTC calls two separate "record-breaking" settlements. One is a $275 million fine for violating the Children's Online Privacy Protection [COPPA] rule, which imposes limitations on websites and online services directed to children under 13-years-old. Epic will also have to pay $245 million in refunds to customers over its "dark patterns".

According to the FTC, Fortnite uses "privacy-invasive default settings" and "deceptive interfaces" that "tricked" players.

WolfEisberg původně napsal:

Good job at taking what I said completely out of context by taking that quote from a completely different conversation about a completely different subject and then pretending that I said it about this Operating system stuff.

by the way, installing a different client is no different then installing any other client, its just as easy as installing Epic, Steam, GOG clients.

You have posted previously how users should not have to use workarounds on Steam and here you are hypocritically telling others how to bypass Epic's own client by using 3rd party apps. Is that officially supported by Timmy and Epic?