Steam no longer supports macOS 10.14

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So now all my games will never be played again. Literally hundreds of dollars worth. Steam is now telling me that I have to buy a whole new computer just to be able to run Steam. Why? Why do they have to keep updating the Steam Client to the point where older computers can no longer run it? Surely there must be a way of allowing those of us with our aged yet trusted old Macs to remain on an older version of the Client. I'm not buying a whole new computer just to play games. I'll be going elsewhere, Steam.

[Lixire]

Blame Apple on that one and not Valve.
Mojave was unsupported since Oct 2021 and when it comes to Apple. their development SDKs only target the very latest versions of macOS.

Either force your Mac to run a newer version of the OS (which is possible, depending on the machine) or use Boot Camp and boot into Windows 10

[Kai]

What kind of device do you have, you could use one of those unofficial patcher to update your version but if you're hardware doesn't even supports that, maybe time to use linux?

[metamec]

If Apple had not dropped 32bit support, this would not be happening.

Windows 7 got 15 years support.
macOS Mojave got 6 years.

Crazy, but Apple has to shoulder a major chunk of the responsibility.

[Pscht]

Originally posted by Kipsley:

I'm just wondering why Steam can't let people use an older client version rather than having to update to the very latest all the time.

Go read the many many threads about Win 7, same applies here.

[Lixire]

Originally posted by Kipsley:

My computer is a Mac Pro mid 2012. Yes, it's vintage as far as computers go, but I like it, and it's bullet proof and easy to fix and clean. I did have a Windows 10 machine but every time I turned it on it would update itself to the latest version, and if I was running a business with that thing, I would have gone broke. This machine is up and running in around 20 seconds.

I know it's an old machine. I'm just wondering why Steam can't let people use an older client version rather than having to update to the very latest all the time.

Steam is an always online piece of software and pretty much a DRM. and overtime the client would be updated to maintain compatibility with the DRM part
Sadly, It's nothing really new and companies do drop support for old OSes every so often to ensure compliance with new standards and security requirements.

[Kai]

Originally posted by eram:

why are you intending to spend your entire life on 10.14? thats very odd.

That's not very old, I been using steam on imac from 2007

[Crazy Tiger]

Originally posted by Kipsley:

I'm just wondering why Steam can't let people use an older client version rather than having to update to the very latest all the time.

Because that's simply not what Valve wants. People seem to think that older clients don't need support or maintenance, but to stay connected to the backend that is required.

What makes you think the low amount of users on unsupported systems is worth the resources to keep supporting them? Ultimately it's a simple cost-benefit analysis. Valve is a data driven company, they have done that analysis.

Always remember that the goals, interests and targets of companies differ from those of regular people. They often don't align, which is ok. Perhaps difficult to accept, but that's ok too.

[nullable]

Originally posted by Kipsley:

My computer is a Mac Pro mid 2012. Yes, it's vintage as far as computers go, but I like it, and it's bullet proof and easy to fix and clean. I did have a Windows 10 machine but every time I turned it on it would update itself to the latest version, and if I was running a business with that thing, I would have gone broke. This machine is up and running in around 20 seconds.

I know it's an old machine. I'm just wondering why Steam can't let people use an older client version rather than having to update to the very latest all the time.

Supporting multiple clients is a lot of work. And anyone who can't run the current client arguably isn't a very valuable customer or just not in their target demographic. Steam has always run on the premise of keeping things up to date, and upgrading systems is practically a feature of the PC platform. Users who want to buck that trend are free too, but they're not anyone's target demographic.

[Scott, President of Dominos]

Valve is planning on dropping Mac support entirely soon.

[Wolfpig]

Originally posted by Makise Kurisu:

Valve is planning on dropping Mac support entirely soon.

Would not really be missed, as most (newer) games on steam right now did not got a mac port for the apple arm versions either way

[Scott, President of Dominos]

Originally posted by Wolfpig:

Originally posted by Makise Kurisu:

Valve is planning on dropping Mac support entirely soon.

Would not really be missed, as most (newer) games on steam right now did not got a mac port for the apple arm versions either way

Meh, if it had an intel version it’s pretty easy to get it working, even sub-optimally.

It’s more about reducing costs and increasing profit margins. Considering how AAA titles cost so much but don’t deliver returns as well as companies like. (Mostly because capital-G gamers hate seeing diverse characters)

[Pscht]

How about you stop blaming other people for your choice of hardware?

[cSg|mc-Hotsauce]

Valve warned you for a while before ending support...

https://help.steampowered.com/faqs/view/743F-2E0E-C9A5-C375

[Wolfpig]

Originally posted by Makise Kurisu:

Meh, if it had an intel version it’s pretty easy to get it working, even sub-optimally.

It’s more about reducing costs and increasing profit margins. Considering how AAA titles cost so much but don’t deliver returns as well as companies like. (Mostly because capital-G gamers hate seeing diverse characters)

it is not about what you have, but what is sold by apple now & in the future......and those are only machines with their own hardware (so it is more...there are no mac ports at all for newer games).

And as the userbase which use macs for gaming is (due to steams hardware survey) roughly 1,5% (and if i remember correctly....it was always around that value) one has to decide if this minority really is worth the hassle apple tries to do with third party stores.

[lsdninja]

Steam dropping Mac support would be an absolutely hilarious concession given it only exists because GabeN wanted to plant the flag because he was afraid the Mac App Store would drive him out.