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A popular tactic corrupt moderators use
You will notice in almost all topics that moderators always love to use this corrupt tactic.
The corrupt mods and their friends will make posts which break the rules very clearly. They will post things like "troll" "bait" and other insults and baits and derails. I always report these moderators when they post this stuff even though I know its pointless but it only costs me like 5 seconds to copy paste "inflammatory derail".

Then either immediately after their corrupt posts or 1-3 days later you or someone else replies to them and say something like "no you are troll not me" or "thats against the rules to say" or "someone is easily triggered, take some deep breaths lol" or maybe you dont even reply to them you just say something similar in someone elses topic like "troll" "bait" etc.

That's when normal users get banned. Then the corrupts moderators will say "Just because others are breaking the rules doesnt mean you are allowed to. Report the posts and we will look into them. Closing ticket because we have nothing more to say. If you open another ticket we will not respond".

You will never see these corrupt moderators and their friends get banned, never ever. But normal users get banned all the time without even breaking the vague rules.

If you are a normal user who doesnt report these corrupt moderator and their friends posts, try it and see what happens... nothing will happen. Wait 1-2 week and come back and see if something happened but nothing will have happened.

Action only gets taken against normal users. And you might actually make yourself a target for these corrupt moderators if you report their corrupt posts. But don't be scared. The only way to get rid of corruption is to fight back against it. If we accept it and learn to live with corruption then we will always have corruption and it is likely to get even worse.
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The purpose of a system is what it does. There are rules on Steam against calling people liars, but not rules against lying. You even have former moderators saying "The guy goading you did nothing wrong, YOU did something morally wrong and YOU deserve the ban, not him. YOUR behavior was wrong, his is not." Steam rules are designed to incentivize and reward the sort of people who do this sort of passive aggressive goading. Valve wants these sorts of people and behaviors on its forums.
What you're saying is true if it is the moderator and their friends doing the goading but if its a normal user then the moderators will the a complete reverse and say/do the opposite, and then its about that you are inflammatory and likely to derail and they then let the moderators and their friends off the hook who replied with rule breaking posts.

The vague rules allow them to do anything they want.
People on the forum will agree the rules are subjective and some insults aren't "insults" and some argumentative posts aren't "argumentative" per the Steam rules depending on the mods attitudes toward the poster (But only in situations where it helps them win a specific argument. In a thread like this they will deny it endlessly.)
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Seraphita 4 maj, 2024 @ 12:04 
Ursprungligen skrivet av Tito Shivan:
There's a very easy strategy one can follow to not get yourself banned. It's just four words so it's very easy to remember:
Don't touch the poop

Ursprungligen skrivet av TRUMP FTW:
will make posts which break the rules very clearly.
Don't touch the poop.

Ursprungligen skrivet av TRUMP FTW:
you or someone else replies to them and say something like "no you are troll not me"
Aaand you touched the poop.
Wait, this is actually interesting. What's this about? All I've ever been told was "Follow the rules and guidelines" which I look at often now to make sure I stick to what's written there. What is in this context "Not touching the poop" and how do you figure this out...?

Or am I being dumb? I mean, I am sure it's obvious. I'm just not sure how to see it.

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did they have a lamah avatar... google steam and name
They were so forgettable that I don't remember, actually... I'm not even joking. :mute:
Senast ändrad av Seraphita; 4 maj, 2024 @ 12:07
mldb88 4 maj, 2024 @ 12:30 
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Nothing to report, this is what is funny. He deleted it all to make sure it doesn't happen. But oh well... Best thing to do is to move on. If he comes back then yeah. No 2nd chance.

did they have a lamah avatar... google steam and name

Yep they did lol was kinda lurking for amusement because his arguments were that ♥♥♥♥ lol but yea
N1ck0 4 maj, 2024 @ 12:42 
Ursprungligen skrivet av Seraphita:
Ursprungligen skrivet av Tito Shivan:
There's a very easy strategy one can follow to not get yourself banned. It's just four words so it's very easy to remember:
Don't touch the poop


Don't touch the poop.


Aaand you touched the poop.
Wait, this is actually interesting. What's this about? All I've ever been told was "Follow the rules and guidelines" which I look at often now to make sure I stick to what's written there. What is in this context "Not touching the poop" and how do you figure this out...?

Or am I being dumb? I mean, I am sure it's obvious. I'm just not sure how to see it.

Ursprungligen skrivet av ragefifty50:
did they have a lamah avatar... google steam and name
They were so forgettable that I don't remember, actually... I'm not even joking. :mute:

What he means by that is do not engage with someone who's trolling. But that's easier said than done. Because that is what trolls are best at. Making you believe they are interested in a constructive argument, when they really aren't.

But he said earlier to also disengage when you then know you're dealing with one. That is sound advise.

Report, cross your fingers, and just move-on.

He has a Llama avatar, and commented on my Code of Conducts thread, so you can still see him here.

Said something about Steam not cooperating with law enforcement, which is probably another wild claim of his without any tangible proof of it being true.
Seraphita 4 maj, 2024 @ 12:48 
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What he means by that is do not engage with someone who's trolling. But that's easier said than done. Because that is what trolls are best at. Making you believe they are interested in a constructive argument, when they really aren't.

But he said earlier to also disengage when you then know you're dealing with one. That is sound advise.

Report, cross your fingers, and just move-on.

He has a Llama avatar, and commented on my Code of Conducts thread, so you can still see him here.

Said something about Steam not cooperating with law enforcement, which is probably another wild claim of his without any tangible proof of it being true.
Right... I see where this is going, now. Disengage when you know you're dealing with a troll = Don't touch the poop. It makes much more sense. It's indeed a good advice.

Also yeah... Personally, I'm done dealing with him. This nonsense is exhausting...
Senast ändrad av Seraphita; 4 maj, 2024 @ 12:49
N1ck0 4 maj, 2024 @ 12:57 
Ursprungligen skrivet av Seraphita:
Also yeah... Personally, I'm done dealing with him. This nonsense is exhausting...

It can really be, I agree. I felt bad seeing all the back-and-forth, with him trying to make you justify yourself, when you don't have to, but was unsure of what to say about all this.

Especially when I made the resolution to quit posting on Steam forums altogether moving forward.

But I am willing to make a few exceptions for a short time before I completely stop posting here for good.

I had to put my profile to private because of BS I had to deal with this week too. Given I won't be posting here anymore though, it's no big deal to me.
Senast ändrad av N1ck0; 4 maj, 2024 @ 12:58
BlueJC 4 maj, 2024 @ 16:42 
If they are yelling bait at a normal comment, ignore them. Post normally, if they are trying to get a reaction don’t give it to them. If they ban you afterwards, avoid them. It’s worth the energy giving people your time and feelings when you ca. be doing something productive.
Doctor Zalgo 4 maj, 2024 @ 19:46 
Ursprungligen skrivet av Tito Shivan:
There's a very easy strategy one can follow to not get yourself banned. It's just four words so it's very easy to remember:
Don't touch the poop

Ursprungligen skrivet av TRUMP FTW:
will make posts which break the rules very clearly.
Don't touch the poop.

Ursprungligen skrivet av TRUMP FTW:
you or someone else replies to them and say something like "no you are troll not me"
Aaand you touched the poop.

And honestly, this is the answer. If you're right and you know you're right, you don't need to react negatively to other peoples ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ like that. You can just respond to the content of their post while letting their rage bait flop about impotently.

Sure, sometimes its fun to flail around in the slop some times, but you should only do that when you're willing to eat a 24 hour ban because regardless of what you're arguing or which 'side' you're on, someone is going to enjoy reporting you.
Ursprungligen skrivet av Doctor Zalgo:
Ursprungligen skrivet av Tito Shivan:
There's a very easy strategy one can follow to not get yourself banned. It's just four words so it's very easy to remember:
Don't touch the poop


Don't touch the poop.


Aaand you touched the poop.

And honestly, this is the answer. If you're right and you know you're right, you don't need to react negatively to other peoples ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ like that. You can just respond to the content of their post while letting their rage bait flop about impotently.

Sure, sometimes its fun to flail around in the slop some times, but you should only do that when you're willing to eat a 24 hour ban because regardless of what you're arguing or which 'side' you're on, someone is going to enjoy reporting you.
so if undercover police are ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ all over your lawn and doorstep everyday and reporting them dont help because they are the police then you suggest to just live with it? ♥♥♥♥ all over your the place and you have to climb out the window so you dont step on the ♥♥♥♥ on your doorstep? No the only right thing to do then as an upstanding citizen is to fight them back. It will get ugly but its the only way.

so many people are sadly being brainwashed to just be good little victims and never defend and stand up for yourself or for anyone else.
Senast ändrad av Lunduke is the Trump of tech; 5 maj, 2024 @ 2:16
JamesF0790 5 maj, 2024 @ 2:19 
Ursprungligen skrivet av TRUMP FTW:
Ursprungligen skrivet av Doctor Zalgo:

And honestly, this is the answer. If you're right and you know you're right, you don't need to react negatively to other peoples ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ like that. You can just respond to the content of their post while letting their rage bait flop about impotently.

Sure, sometimes its fun to flail around in the slop some times, but you should only do that when you're willing to eat a 24 hour ban because regardless of what you're arguing or which 'side' you're on, someone is going to enjoy reporting you.
so if undercover police are ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ all over your lawn and doorstep everyday and reporting them dont help because they are the police then you suggest to just live with it? ♥♥♥♥ all over your the place and you have to climb out the window so you dont step on the ♥♥♥♥ on your doorstep? No the only right thing to do then as an upstanding citizen is to fight them back. It will get ugly but its the only way.

so many people are sadly being brainwashed to just be good little victims and never defend and stand up for yourself or for anyone else.
Except that pre-supposes the existence of these undercover police which is far from a proven conclusion
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And honestly, this is the answer. If you're right and you know you're right, you don't need to react negatively to other peoples ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ like that. You can just respond to the content of their post while letting their rage bait flop about impotently.

Sure, sometimes its fun to flail around in the slop some times, but you should only do that when you're willing to eat a 24 hour ban because regardless of what you're arguing or which 'side' you're on, someone is going to enjoy reporting you.
so if undercover police are ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ all over your lawn and doorstep everyday and reporting them dont help because they are the police then you suggest to just live with it? ♥♥♥♥ all over your the place and you have to climb out the window so you dont step on the ♥♥♥♥ on your doorstep? No the only right thing to do then as an upstanding citizen is to fight them back. It will get ugly but its the only way.

so many people are sadly being brainwashed to just be good little victims and never defend and stand up for yourself or for anyone else.


How do you know if they are undercover police? Surely if people know they are undercover police then they aren't undercover police but simply the police and goes against why they are undercover in the first place...
Senast ändrad av Piston Smashed™; 5 maj, 2024 @ 2:22
undercover...

we need verifiable witnesses also.... who has a friend of
a friend that knows a friend who has a cousin that knows
a window cleaner that saw the proof in the pudding that these undercover people exist...

its gotta be legit right...
its basically proof when the undercover police are just a few users who do this full time meaning they get paid to do it thats the way the world works. And they are always defending the police and the police interests and shouting police propaganda. And any reports against these undercover police never gets taken any action on.

That is proof.
Ursprungligen skrivet av TRUMP FTW:
its basically proof when the undercover police are just a few users who do this full time meaning they get paid to do it thats the way the world works. And they are always defending the police and the police interests and shouting police propaganda. And any reports against these undercover police never gets taken any action on.

That is proof.

That is not proof, that is an uneducated guess based on a lack of actual proof to go along with an opinion which you want to class as proof.
Doctor Zalgo 5 maj, 2024 @ 5:32 
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Ursprungligen skrivet av Doctor Zalgo:

And honestly, this is the answer. If you're right and you know you're right, you don't need to react negatively to other peoples ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ like that. You can just respond to the content of their post while letting their rage bait flop about impotently.

Sure, sometimes its fun to flail around in the slop some times, but you should only do that when you're willing to eat a 24 hour ban because regardless of what you're arguing or which 'side' you're on, someone is going to enjoy reporting you.
so if undercover police are ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ all over your lawn and doorstep everyday and reporting them dont help because they are the police then you suggest to just live with it? ♥♥♥♥ all over your the place and you have to climb out the window so you dont step on the ♥♥♥♥ on your doorstep? No the only right thing to do then as an upstanding citizen is to fight them back. It will get ugly but its the only way.

so many people are sadly being brainwashed to just be good little victims and never defend and stand up for yourself or for anyone else.

"Undercover police" "brainwashed" "victims".

You're literally just being trolled by strangers and for some reason you think this is a conspiracy rather than just 'how the internet has worked for almost two decades'.

PS: You post on here full time, who is paying you?
Senast ändrad av Doctor Zalgo; 5 maj, 2024 @ 5:33
i love stephen colberts impersonation of twump.... i read all these posts with his voice...

with all the people that complain about not getting desired moderator actions
you can safely say these undercover police aint really doing a good job...

good job donald :BlitzRoasted:
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