A popular tactic corrupt moderators use

[Lunduke is the Trump of tech]

You will notice in almost all topics that moderators always love to use this corrupt tactic.
The corrupt mods and their friends will make posts which break the rules very clearly. They will post things like "troll" "bait" and other insults and baits and derails. I always report these moderators when they post this stuff even though I know its pointless but it only costs me like 5 seconds to copy paste "inflammatory derail".

Then either immediately after their corrupt posts or 1-3 days later you or someone else replies to them and say something like "no you are troll not me" or "thats against the rules to say" or "someone is easily triggered, take some deep breaths lol" or maybe you dont even reply to them you just say something similar in someone elses topic like "troll" "bait" etc.

That's when normal users get banned. Then the corrupts moderators will say "Just because others are breaking the rules doesnt mean you are allowed to. Report the posts and we will look into them. Closing ticket because we have nothing more to say. If you open another ticket we will not respond".

You will never see these corrupt moderators and their friends get banned, never ever. But normal users get banned all the time without even breaking the vague rules.

If you are a normal user who doesnt report these corrupt moderator and their friends posts, try it and see what happens... nothing will happen. Wait 1-2 week and come back and see if something happened but nothing will have happened.

Action only gets taken against normal users. And you might actually make yourself a target for these corrupt moderators if you report their corrupt posts. But don't be scared. The only way to get rid of corruption is to fight back against it. If we accept it and learn to live with corruption then we will always have corruption and it is likely to get even worse.

[Seraphita]

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You literally have badge on your profile saying "you are a perfect lolicon!"....

Okay so your counter-argument to everything I just said is "You have a badge." Do you even realise how non-constructive any of your posts have been so far? All you demonstrated is that you're offended by fictional (and SFW) characters and tried to report it.

When you have to resort to attack the other person and not the argument then your credibility really falls to nothingness. Feel free to search my profile all you want. Nothing is illegal on it. In fact, everything you see there is seen on steam somewhere.

[Seraphita]

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You basically outed yourself. I don't see why I should discuss with you this since it's clearly personal for you. It would be against your interest if those groups were banned and people reported to police.

Nice cop out... Except you're just running away. This is what people will see. Nothing personal so much as "You have nothing to prove here." Otherwise, do you? Steam will only ban loli if they are NSFW, (for a good reason). Please show us how my profile is illegal?

You're running out of the argument because you have none, it's that simple. You have no proof that these groups exist and are illegal. I am not seeing you posting a single one of them. Again, don't go "But I'll be banned". It's just a cop out to avoid giving evidence.

[Seraphita]

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Sure what ever. I don't need to convince you whetever what I saw qualified as illegal or not. Since you would hold no power or influence to shut them down. But as I said... the fact that you glorify yourself as lolicon is more than enough to show that this is personal to you.

" Again, don't go "But I'll be banned". It's just a cop out to avoid giving evidence."
It's not a cop out. I would be banned for sharing sxual content and then the group itself wouldn't ever be shut down but instead I would have perma ban or something. Beside you think I keep those groups in tab or something? I reported them before when I saw someone like you who was openly part of those group. Saw same guy again months later and still part of same groups.

Okay so I will play by steam logic: These groups did not get banned because they were NOT illegal. Again, nothing personal with it. I have the badge because I think loli are cute. My profile has no illegal content but cute characters on it that aren't against the rules.

THEREFORE, you have nothing against me. You're only trying to run away. Do you see me in one of these groups that you deem illegal? Go ahead, you have the right to search what you see. If I'm in one of these groups, you can tell me so I go report the illegal stuff.

[muckymucks]

Yup, it’s all a ♥♥♥♥ show. If we were smart we’d stop posting in these forums and if Valve were smart they’d remove these forums from Steam.

[Seraphita]

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OR the moderator who saw the report was lolicon himself and didn't do anything.

" I have the badge because I think loli are cute"
Lolicon is reference to man or woman who feels sexual attraction toward underage girls.

Bruh... It's like saying weebs feel sexual attractions to anime characters. At this point, you're trying to take a thing too literally or whatever to supposedly claim they "out themselves". Sorry if I like a kind of characters you don't. You still didn't answer my questions.

Now, you're even on the conspiracy theory that the mod that saw your report is a lolicon himself. What the actual fudge... Like, it's clear you're trying to reach hard to get sfw content banned. But if you keep reporting things falsely, you'll lose your privilege.

[N1ck0]

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Yup, it’s all a ♥♥♥♥ show. If we were smart we’d stop posting in these forums and if Valve were smart they’d remove these forums from Steam.

It's what I'll be doing myself from now on.

[Seraphita]

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https://www.quora.com/What-does-a-mother-con-mean-in-a-Japanese-web-novel

"The “con” in mother-con stands for complex. It's used in words like “loli-con” “sis-con” etc. It's used to describe a person who's sexually attracted to the thing that comes before the “con” (sis-con means being sexually attracted to their own sister, loli-con means attracted to “lolis”)"

Again, irrelevant. I mean, I'd have taken a loli goddess badge if there had been one instead but there isn't. The lolicon badge has a cute loli on it so it will do. But yes, all you said here is not relevant. You didn't answer any of my questions. Which is a shame, really.

I asked if I was in ANY of these groups. No answers. I asked you to prove to me the existence of such groups. No answers. I tried to search loli groups before. None that I saw had any such thing of nsfw nature as you imply. So where is it? I'm just curious.

Steam banned games for having underaged fictional characters, they'd also ban groups if they do not want to be facing legal issues. So your theory that "Must be a lolicon mod" is silly at best. I've seen a lot of legal loli groups but none that you imply. Why is it?

[Seraphita]

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https://www.japandict.com/?s=lolicon&lang=eng

All dictionary responses refer to sexual fixation.
You're trying to cover for yourself but even japanese dictionary points out that it's sexual fixation instead of "finding something cute".

I don't see how dictionary definition of lolicon is irrelevant. You basically declared yourself as pedophile in japanese. So of course you would defend these groups and pretend they don't exists.

...Wow... You really do be reaching hard. PROVE... IT... Am I in any of these groups? Pretty sure my groups are public. Am I in a SINGLE one of them? If so, I'll gladly report any actually illegal content (according to steam rules). Can you prove even a single thing...?

I'm not asking for a miracle, here. I'm asking that you prove your claim with facts. Sources. Anything. There's no "pretend" when I literally searched groups with the word "loli" and found no NSFW images within them at all yet you pretend that you did... Where...?

Here's the problem with this big discussion. You haven't proven a SINGLE claim that you've made. You could not even say if there's a single illegal thing on my profile or not. All I'm seeing here is false accusations, false claims and you making false reports...

[Seraphita]

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Whetever are you part of those groups or not is irrelevant. You are proudly declaring yourself as pedophile in japanese language on your profile. It might confuse those who don't speak japanese, but that is why I posted dictionary definition. You have special interest on defending these groups.

Which explains why you are attacking me with such passion.

Attacking you? LOL. No, I am challenging your claim and look at you, you can't even prove me wrong. Even your claim that I'm declaring myself as whatever you think I am, is false. You're the one who has been attacking the other side on this thread. This is fact.

And don't give me that "You being in these groups or not is irrelevant." No, it is. If I was such a defender of these groups, why am I not in any of them? You moved the goal posts because you can't prove anything of what you said. Now, you're just attacking me.

This is the reality of this discussion. You have proven that you're just making false reports. Even the mods won't care for it. This is why you're also attacking the mods, claiming that they are certainly lolicons for not banning these "illegal groups". That's... wow.

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IF you weren't lolicon you would actually encourage me to report those groups instead of telling me to stop doing it.

Never told you to stop. I told you to prove to me their existence. And prove to me that they are effectively illegal. You have proven nothing. You're desperately reaching, trying to claim something as what it's not and you're even insulting the mods over it. Come on.

[Seraphita]

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https://www.japandict.com/?s=lolicon&lang=eng
One would think that after being told that the word they use to describe themselves means pedophile in japanese, would actually remove such thing from their profile if they genuinely weren't. They would in fact thank someone for pointing out and saving them from future embarrassment or possible court cases.

As I said... you have special interest. It literally serves your interest to deny that such groups exists.

Bruh... I've dealt with people like you trying to intimidate me a lot. I think loli are cute and I will certainly NOT bow to you and remove my badge over your feelings. I've even added stuff to my profile when people like you tried to harass me over it. Don't go there.

You're claiming that I defend these groups yet you can't prove that I'm in a single one of them. It does not make sense... What interest would it serves if I am not in one of those "illegal" groups? I would not view the content you claim that exists. Explain this.

See how little sense you make? We call this "grasping at straws.". The day you prove that such groups exist, that I'm in one of them in order for me to "defend them for my own interests", then you can speak to me the way you are. You've proven nothing so far.

[Seraphita]

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Hardly intimidation to point out that you hold badge on your profile which translates in japanese as pedophile. I already proved it without shadow of doubt that lolicon means pedophile.
You should be thanking me for pointing that out and remove your badge.... Instead you're here acting as if said definition was never mentioned and kept your badge. Thus outed yourself.

Okay, NOW, I think I can safely say that you're trolling. I've waited a bit but yeah. I've proven without a doubt that you could not answer a SINGLE one of my questions. Deleting your posts will not do anything for you, either. It's not in my nature to thank bullies.

What is funny here is that you think any of your grasping at straws would make ME remove my badge for you. Or out of fear to be outed like you claim I am. I have lolis on my profile and I have a loli badge. If you didn't notice yet, I am very comfortable with all of it.

What I'm not comfortable with is you making all of these claims and being unable to prove a single one. AND, to be on-topic, you claim that mods are corrupted (Or lolicons themselves) because they do not ban groups that you false report. I'll say it again. PROVE IT...!

[Seraphita]

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Touch Fluffy Tail Fluffy Tail group that you're part of has user
https://steamcommunity.com/id/41691994016629941613

Said user has clearly underaged minors animated in his artwork.

Wait wait wait... That's your proof? A random user the furry group who has artwork in their own profile? DO YOU REALISE that I do NOT check every users in a groups to see if they have any content in their profile? WHO does that? How did YOU find this, anyway?

When I asked for groups and illegal content, I asked for content posted IN the groups. I mean, I get how some of these images are against the rules of steam. Buuut the groups itself does not host these images. So how do you expect ANYONE to know about it?

[Seraphita]

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Hahaha your friend did put profile into private the moment I mentioned it xD
Thanks for proving that you're protecting them

Uhhh... For the record, I have no idea of what you're talking about. I'm here mostly talking to you and I didn't even have a second to talk to anyone else yet. Sooo you're making yet another wild accusation out of nowhere. "Proving that you're protecting them". How?

Like, go ahead, prove ANY of your claims made in this thread. I disproved every single ones of them so far. Also, sorry that I'm way too comfortable with liking fictional character. Trust me, I also enjoy your attempt at grasping at straws to make me feel bad somehow.

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Group itself is used as dogwhistle to connect these people.

Prove it. Now. The group itself is used to connect furry fans to games and other furry topics. Prove your claims with facts and sources. Surely, you have facts to prove it. Right?

[Seraphita]

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His account became private almost after I posted it here.

I guess you told him?

Also ever heard of dogwhistling? That group has full of people making comments such as "add". He was one of the examples. It's basically used to connect lolicons (translated as pedophiles) through the group and share the images.

Do not "guess". I can easily show you my chat logs kept by steam itself and you would see that none of my chats would speak to that user. Steam LOGS every conversations made on steam. That would literally break your argument right there. Don't go there.

Also, prove it. Literally, prove any of what you just said with facts. Prove that the group hosts any loli content. Prove that a single thing on that group is actually against the rules and I will go and report it myself. Do it. I am challenging you to show proof.

[Seraphita]

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Well pretty weird coincidence. Perhaps in contact with person in some other means? Discord for example.

I just proved that there is user posting pedophile content on steam and it haven't been removed. Wasn't even that hard to find him. He was in the first page of your group.

Bruh, I don't even use discord. I don't even use any other chat apps either. I never connect to anyone in steam elsewhere. YOU are trying to find a mean to explain your own claim and you have no proof. You are, effectively speaking, grasping at straws here.

Also, how did you find it? Either you knew where to look or you're projecting. Or both... Also, I feel like I have to bring out this quote: "You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means." You went on a long topic derailing only for this?

Stick to the topic... If you want to accuse a mod of being a lolicon just because they don't act on your false reports, you better have proof. They ARE very serious when content breaks the rules. Reporting a group that has no illegal content? That is a false report.