When Valve stops supporting WIndows 10, it'll be interesting community response to it.

[WolfEisberg]

My low end gaming laptop cannot upgrade to Windows 11 at all. While the CPU does support TPM, the bios/motherboard do not, which means there is no way for me to upgrade to Windows 11 on this laptop.

Previously when Valve stopped support of an OS people could just upgrade their OS since the system requirements for the upgraded OS were typically the same as the system requirements for the previous windows version. The same cannot be said about WIndows 11 since it requires the computer to support TPM.

This means for me when Steam no longer works on Windows 10, if I want to continue to play Steam games on a laptop my options will be:

1- Get a new laptop
2- Not play Steam games
3- change to linux

Now personally, option 1 isn't going to happen because I rarely play games on this laptop anyways. So that leaves option 2 and 3. Changing to Linux wouldn't be a big deal because 99% of the use of this laptop is on web browser anyways.

But how this would personally affect me isn't the point anyways. But the community response will be interesting.

There will be people who cannot upgrade to WIndows 11, and they'll have legitimate reasons why which is the lack of TPM support on their PC. Telling people to upgrade to Window 11 won't be a valid suggestion.

Moving to Linux has it's draw backs because it is not as normal user friendly as Windows is, and finding help with various problems that will happen often leads to people telling you to use command line to fix the issue, which often does not come with good instructions on how to do that. So it'll be understandable why people wouldn't want to move to Linux either.

So the response will be very interesting, it won't be the same as it was for Windows 7 purely because of the TPM requirement for WIndows 11.

[bidulless]

AntiGrieferGames님이 먼저 게시:

bidulless님이 먼저 게시:

hello

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The Dev planned to fork newest firefox to SuperFox after ESR 115 ended for older operating systems.
And i know Supermium are chromium fork, to make older system work again.

hello

Good, interresting find

[Lixire]

Crashed님이 먼저 게시:

AVX is not part of SSE4.2, it's an entirely new instruction set. It is still not needed in 24H2, and so far my old Lenovo laptop with an AMD E-450 still successfully boots the preview.

POPCNT was indeed introduced with SSE4.2 for Intel users. However for AMD users, it was introduced with SSE4a
so the said E-450 does support this feature and also Phenom 2 CPUs do

[Crazy Tiger]

Good thing it'll be years before support for Win 10 gets dropped. Plenty of people will have a computer that can go Win11 or further by then.

[WolfEisberg]

VB✠Driver님이 먼저 게시:

OP is a known shill for Epic Store (as many probably aware already). He just needs another thing to complain "be curious" about Steam. Watch him not saying a peep when Epic Store drops Win7 support (already did for fortnite) and even defend that position.

Lol, your ignorant to the fact that I was among the people stating to others they should upgrade to win 10, it isn't a big deal because it's the same system requirements as Win7 so their PC can run it anyways, and I wasn't in agreement with those fighting against Valve for dropping Windows 7.

[Crashed]

CJM님이 먼저 게시:

You would have needed to bypass the requirements for a TPM module at least, but I cannot imagine any reason for the AMD E-450 to be unstable with regards to Windows 11. As long as the laptop was supplied with signed Windows 10 drivers.

The laptop doesn't even have Secure Boot, and I'm even surprised its broken UEFI didn't choke on it. I did boot it from a Windows to Go USB, and it was faster than my installation of 23H2 that is all choked with OEM bloatware from Windows 7.

[WolfEisberg]

VB✠Driver님이 먼저 게시:

WolfEisberg님이 먼저 게시:

Lol, your ignorant to the fact that I was among the people stating to others they should upgrade to win 10, it isn't a big deal because it's the same system requirements as Win7 so their PC can run it anyways, and I wasn't in agreement with those fighting against Valve for dropping Windows 7.

And now people are telling you to upgrade to 11.

The irony.

As for OP topic - you just came here to s**t on "bad" Valve out of nothing. How many years till Valve drops Win10 support? You posted this like they're doing that from 2025.

So now you are deciding to pretend that I was complaining for myself, despite I literally said the opposite? And then you also decide to pretend its an attack on Valve despite it isn't at all?

Why are you deciding to attack me through twisting what I am saying to have it mean something that it isn't?

[bidulless]

WolfEisberg님이 먼저 게시:

VB✠Driver님이 먼저 게시:

And now people are telling you to upgrade to 11.

The irony.

As for OP topic - you just came here to s**t on "bad" Valve out of nothing. How many years till Valve drops Win10 support? You posted this like they're doing that from 2025.

So now you are deciding to pretend that I was complaining for myself, despite I literally said the opposite? And then you also decide to pretend its an attack on Valve despite it isn't at all?

Why are you deciding to attack me through twisting what I am saying to have it mean something that it isn't?

hello

Because now you are flagged as a trouble maker for this kind of guy and all people in this kind of gang and that despite what you have done before just because, they are the well thinking people and you the black sheep...
So do not wait any advices or honest exchange , they are not here for that and surelly not to provide any help for anything.

[Dr.Shadowds 🐉]

Joy another repeating spam topic.

For starters for those lacks TPM, or using CPU lacking SSE4.2/SSE4a are basically SOL, plus any cpu lacking SSE4 would be very old system to begin with so not much can do about them, and already struggling to play 3D demanding games to begin with, not idea at all for any modem games either.

Windows 11 push for Intel 8th gen that release in 2017, and AMD 2nd gen ryzen that release in 2018. By the time we hit 2028 ~ 2030 those systems would be decade old already. As likely people already using, or had moved to supported hardware.


The problem is that if you're using a very old system, and wanting play games that rely on anti cheat such as easy anti cheat or etc you be facing problems if dev chooses not to enable Linux support. If play single player games, or older games then shouldn't be much of an issue at all just learning curve at best, but manageable to play all your games.



This is a known repeating issue on PC space as time moves on you be required to move to supported OS, and may need to upgrade hardware over the many years as have all kinds of software drop support over time, as this isn't new thing for past 30 years.

[AntiGrieferGames]

Dr.Shadowds 🐉님이 먼저 게시:

Windows 11 push for Intel 8th gen that release in 2017, and AMD 2nd gen ryzen that release in 2018. By the time we hit 2028 ~ 2030 those systems would be decade old already. As likely people already using, or had moved to supported hardware.

With the exception of ryzen 3 2000 series.

[BionicSeaSerpent]

when valve stops supporting 10, it will be the exact same, except people will actually have a brain and switch to Linux.

[AntiGrieferGames]

When Valve stopped Win 10, it will already downfall.

BionicSeaSerpent님이 먼저 게시:

when valve stops supporting 10, it will be the exact same, except people will actually have a brain and switch to Linux.

[BionicSeaSerpent]

AntiGrieferGames님이 먼저 게시:

When Valve stopped Win 10, it will already downfall.

BionicSeaSerpent님이 먼저 게시:

when valve stops supporting 10, it will be the exact same, except people will actually have a brain and switch to Linux.

windows has been on its downfall since Vista.

[CJM]

BionicSeaSerpent님이 먼저 게시:

AntiGrieferGames님이 먼저 게시:

When Valve stopped Win 10, it will already downfall.

windows has been on its downfall since Vista.

You liked Windows 95?
MS-DOS was at least very performative on my ancient 2nd hand IBM during my school days.

I remember Windows 95 turning everything into a slide show. It wasn't especially stable either. Though, I did have more Blue Screens with Windows Me, which would BSOD whenever I ejected a CD-ROM.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IW7Rqwwth84

[Lystent]

I doubt there is a bypass for the part where 32-bit won't cut it anymore. That is what I've got on my newest portable PC. That said, I didn't get it with gaming as a priority, and with Steam client enlargement (perhaps some on the OS side, too), hardly any of my Steam games work on it anyways, but I still got atleast on on it, and used to use it to stream Steam games from my primary PC back when I had a cleaner WiFi signal.

I am mostly concerned about its ability to use internet at this point. Without Steam running, it can do that plenty good enough right now. But even when that time passes, atleast I can run Blender or GIMP on it, alongside older games. Maybe even Cura, if I need to for some reason.

As for getting a new portable PC, even if I had the money RN, the format i am after is so dominated by apples and googles that I'm having difficulty with finding something with actual windows (as oppose to something like win RT, with is probably the closest thing to a brick, that wasn't a brick, I've ever used).

[AntiGrieferGames]

BionicSeaSerpent님이 먼저 게시:

AntiGrieferGames님이 먼저 게시:

When Valve stopped Win 10, it will already downfall.

windows has been on its downfall since Vista.

Heres a list:

Windows XP Good

Windoiws Vista Bad

Windows 7 Good

Windows 8/8.1 Bad

Windows 10 Good

Windows 11 Bad

Think Correctly, every Windows at XP, 7, 10 are good ones, while Vista, 8 and 11 are bad ones.

The 12 will be the good one.