venomsnake255 2024 年 3 月 7 日 上午 3:15
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Steam prices overall are too high for Turkey.
I don't care about paying in dollars just atleast give countries like Turkey good prices, I get it turkish lira is worthless I know I don't care about that I even got enough money and stuff but the problem is I can't bring myself to buy games without atleast %50 discount I wanted to buy yakuza 4 and yakuza 6 for example, both of them 40 dollars together but the problem is 40 dollars is literally 160 bread money in my country I just wish the prices atleast were something like %30 lower in Turkey, you can buy 4 breads in Turkey with a dollar, so 40 dollars in a row is a lot of money, I feel too guilty to buy games with these prices, I have my dignity, somewhere in my country people are starving...
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cSg|mc-Hotsauce 2024 年 3 月 7 日 上午 11:30 
引用自 Shadow
I am friends with a game developer, and I asked him this question a while ago. The answer is yes and no. While yes, a developer can decide which price a game should have for every region, most do not, as it is too much work, and choose the basic prices provided by Steam.

I live in Switzerland, and games cost the same as in Germany, but for some reason, games on Steam are for Swiss customers much more expensive, which makes literally zero sense as the Swiss francs are more or less equal to the euro.

The average 60€ game is for Swiss customers at 70€.
cheaper games like 20€ indie cost for Swiss 25€.

Switzerland is for games, not a separate region, nor does Switzerland get an exclusive Swiss-approved version; we buy the very same games that are sold in Italy, France, Germany, or Austria.
In game stores and online stores, I pay the same price as my neighboring countries.
If cyberpunk costs 60€ in Germany, I pay 60€ in the Swiss store as well.
only steam want 70€.


largest Swiss online store
https://www.digitec.ch/en/search?filter=t_22527%3D1001056&q=cyberpunk+2077
Standard Edition 46.20SFr (steam 69.99)
Ultimate Edition 62.90SFr (steam 96.58)

I checked many other games. Look for yourself; Steam is always more expensive.
You can also look for other Swiss stores, such as brack.ch, mediamarkt.ch, interdiscount.ch, fust.ch, etc.

If Steam fixed the exchange table to current exchange values, the prices would be fairer for countries that are currently paying too much.
But it is like that for already many years, if they havent changed it in the past, they wont in future.

When there are games for other platforms, such as Ubisoft, Electronic Arts, and Activision Blizzard, I also tend to buy from those stores, as they somehow manage to give me better prices than Steam.

Sure. Devs are lazy on Steam.

Valve suggests 64.99...

https://steamdb.info/sub/367653/

And those other services, they price them lower on their services because they don't give a cut to Valve and they also want people to use their service.

:winterbunny2023:
Mad Scientist 2024 年 3 月 7 日 上午 11:41 
引用自 Shadow
I am friends with a game developer, and I asked him this question a while ago. The answer is yes and no. While yes, a developer can decide which price a game should have for every region, most do not, as it is too much work, and choose the basic prices provided by Steam.
You can literally do a currency conversion lookup which takes seconds to decide how much in your currency it is in another currency, and if you want to make it more or less for them. The smallest amount of effort required.

引用自 Shadow
If Steam fixed the exchange table to current exchange values, the prices would be fairer for countries that are currently paying too much.
Often Developers charge more than the suggested prices, for those not in their region, more notably for lesser known countries or those that have been used for region-hopping which thankfully they put an end to.

引用自 Shadow
When there are games for other platforms, such as Ubisoft, Electronic Arts, and Activision Blizzard, I also tend to buy from those stores, as they somehow manage to give me better prices than Steam.
Yet we have Steam Sales, and often the name of the game is patience. Else, if you want better prices than unknown/shady sites, ask the Developer.

Also those other platforms are usually the direct party for the game, so no cut, thus they could lower it since they still retain the profit. Something you should be aware of or left out.



引用自 Shadow
引用自 cSg|mc-Hotsauce
Valve suggests 64.99...

https://steamdb.info/sub/367653/
SteamDB is wrong.
Here is a screen from the store page.
https://ibb.co/xzs8nk0
SteamDB is correct;
Swiss Franc

Current price:
CHF 69.99
Converted Price:
$79.65
Valve Suggested price:
CHF 65.99

The 59.99 is for direct USD. Helps to read the currencies being listed on SteamDB.
最后由 Mad Scientist 编辑于; 2024 年 3 月 7 日 上午 11:45
Nx Machina 2024 年 3 月 7 日 下午 12:22 
https://partner.steamgames.com/doc/store/pricing

Partners on Steam are responsible for setting and managing pricing for their products.

Note: This is also applicable to other PC Client/Stores who sell 3rd party products.

Example products:

The Outer Worlds Spacers Choice Edition - £49.99 on Steam, Epic and GOG.

Metro Exodus Gold Edition - £34.99 on Steam, Epic and GOG.
最后由 Nx Machina 编辑于; 2024 年 3 月 7 日 下午 12:24
cSg|mc-Hotsauce 2024 年 3 月 7 日 下午 1:04 
引用自 Shadow
Oh i read it wrong, sorry. I was only looking at the suggested price.


This is the dev I am referring to. I remember someone else asking a similar question a few weeks ago, and the dev gave him the same answer as me.
https://steamcommunity.com/app/1714420/discussions/0/6208841892243809856/#c6208841892244665975
Quote:
"My game costs U$ 15,00. But for other regions, I keep the steam default suggestion for regional price."

Along with, "But every month my game enters on sales, with discounts up to 50% OFF. Wishlist my game to get notified, in sha Allah!"

When on sale, it is in parity with Valve's suggested price.

:winterbunny2023:
adrABei 2024 年 3 月 8 日 上午 10:33 
Steam transferred Türkiye to MENA because of the abusers of other countries. They were using VPN to change their country to Türkiye and buying cheap games. Same was happening for Argentina, thats why Steam did this. Because of some guys tried to be smart we cant buy any more games in Türkiye...
cSg|mc-Hotsauce 2024 年 3 月 8 日 上午 11:23 
引用自 adrABei
Steam transferred Türkiye to MENA because of the abusers of other countries. They were using VPN to change their country to Türkiye and buying cheap games. Same was happening for Argentina, thats why Steam did this. Because of some guys tried to be smart we cant buy any more games in Türkiye...

Did you read the FAQ?

:winterbunny2023:
WolfEisberg 2024 年 3 月 9 日 下午 10:10 
The problem that happened is that Valve removed Turkey from being a region all by itself like it used to be. Now it is put into a region with other countries, so the dev/pubs are going to pick a price that the most expensive country can handle.

If Valve would have kept Turkey all by itself as a region, then the dev/pubs could have priced Turkey better without it affecting any other country.
Chompman 2024 年 3 月 9 日 下午 10:42 
引用自 WolfEisberg
The problem that happened is that Valve removed Turkey from being a region all by itself like it used to be. Now it is put into a region with other countries, so the dev/pubs are going to pick a price that the most expensive country can handle.

If Valve would have kept Turkey all by itself as a region, then the dev/pubs could have priced Turkey better without it affecting any other country.
The issue is they couldn't do that because of the currency issues Turkey and a few other regions was having and it was impossible for companies or steam to maintain the correct prices over time.

It was either do that or remove such regions from having the ability to purchase games at all on steam.

These currency devaluations is beyond steams control and they opted for the best solution as a business and for their customers that was available at the time.
( ( < < <🤖> > > ) ) 2024 年 3 月 9 日 下午 10:58 
so more people in turkey need to create games to keep the costs internal and down...

is that what needs to happen....

sure we have all come to except people need to put things on a plate and
serve us all the time.... but look at where its getting us.....

everyones gotta do more to get serviced these days...
do more.. and do more... and do do more...


george its time to take astro out for a walk..
WolfEisberg 2024 年 3 月 9 日 下午 11:06 
引用自 Chompman
引用自 WolfEisberg
The problem that happened is that Valve removed Turkey from being a region all by itself like it used to be. Now it is put into a region with other countries, so the dev/pubs are going to pick a price that the most expensive country can handle.

If Valve would have kept Turkey all by itself as a region, then the dev/pubs could have priced Turkey better without it affecting any other country.
The issue is they couldn't do that because of the currency issues Turkey and a few other regions was having and it was impossible for companies or steam to maintain the correct prices over time.

It was either do that or remove such regions from having the ability to purchase games at all on steam.

These currency devaluations is beyond steams control and they opted for the best solution as a business and for their customers that was available at the time.

Valve could have just changed to USD for Turkey, while keeping Turkey as a region to itself. That removes the currency devaluation problem.
Princess Luna 2024 年 3 月 10 日 上午 12:30 
Ask Erdoğan to make better economy
nullable 2024 年 3 月 10 日 上午 8:24 
引用自 WolfEisberg

Valve could have just changed to USD for Turkey, while keeping Turkey as a region to itself. That removes the currency devaluation problem.

You assume that change would be a direct conversion? Or that prices wouldn't have changed to normalize all the previous lost value of the lira?

I mean it's wishful thinking. And your fantasy can be whatever you want.
WolfEisberg 2024 年 3 月 10 日 上午 8:47 
引用自 nullable
引用自 WolfEisberg

Valve could have just changed to USD for Turkey, while keeping Turkey as a region to itself. That removes the currency devaluation problem.

You assume that change would be a direct conversion? Or that prices wouldn't have changed to normalize all the previous lost value of the lira?

I mean it's wishful thinking. And your fantasy can be whatever you want.

The answer is no to all your questions. Your fantasy of what I was thinking is facepalm worthy.

Games on EGS are cheaper in Turkey compared to Steam because EGS has Turkey as a separate region to itself, priced in USD. Developers are able to pick the lowest USD price they are willing to sell at for Turkey without affecting the prices of any other country.
Sam 2024 年 3 月 10 日 上午 9:55 
Steam has to do with the prices that weren't updated after change to dollar though. They should have converted the old price to dollars instead of just auto-applying maxed out US price and calling it a day. There are tons of older games which won't be updated merely because the seller either isn't aware or doesn't care anymore.
abinerede 2024 年 3 月 15 日 下午 1:25 
Some people say lame comments but the problem is there are other online sellers have better prices half or almost quarter of price than steam. Steam is greedy and I havent bought any game since November 2023 and still wont buy unless prices converted to turkish lira and better prices...
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