Steam sets new records for concurrent users

[Brian9824]

https://gamerant.com/steam-concurrent-player-record-34-million/

Man all those doom and gloom threads of Steam being in trouble, dying, etc sure haven't aged well when they have broken their record multiple times in the last 2 years.

[miakisfan]

There's a reason I do my research instead of listening to all the naysayers. Sticking with Steam works just fine for me.

If I believed everything I hear I would have voted for Joe Biden too, hated on Steam, etc. There's a reason I don't believe everything I'm told. I would deserve to be lied to.

[Boblin the Goblin]

引用自 lankaras：

引用自 brian9824：

Game is literally running thru steam. So not sure what you are trying to say. its possible to play some games without steam running, and if you are doing that then you wouldn't have been counted in the numbers.

It is not "running through Steam". Steam just acts as a launcher, no game exists which needs Steam to run. The client doesn't do anything except for gimmicks like DRM, playtime, platform-level achievements and so on, which the game does not need by itself.

The client is basically just monitoring you playing the game, which is in fact running standalone. Saying that Steam has X concurrent players "on the platform" makes it sound like it is comparable to X concurrent players on WoW, while those aren't comparable at all.

You contradict yourself.

You say no game needs Steam to run then mention Steam DRM. If a game has Steam DRM, it needs Steam to run.

If the game was running standalone, you would be able to shut down Steam once the game is launched. A majority are not able to do that.

[Kapitein Gnapmans]

引用自 SlowMango：

引用自 lankaras：

It is not "running through Steam". Steam just acts as a launcher, no game exists which needs Steam to run. The client doesn't do anything except for gimmicks like DRM, playtime, platform-level achievements and so on, which the game does not need by itself.

The client is basically just monitoring you playing the game, which is in fact running standalone. Saying that Steam has X concurrent players "on the platform" makes it sound like it is comparable to X concurrent players on WoW, while those aren't comparable at all.

You contradict yourself.

You say no game needs Steam to run then mention Steam DRM. If a game has Steam DRM, it needs Steam to run.

If the game was running standalone, you would be able to shut down Steam once the game is launched. A majority are not able to do that.

You obviously don't understand how it works. It is shoehorned in, it is a FORCED requirement which is added to a finished game which already works without it. DRM obviously cannot be optional.

In other words, they MAKE the game "need" Steam when they implement Steam API. It is completely artificial. Same game on GOG does not have any of that, yet isn't missing anything except for the platform gimmicks.

I think most games will probably keep running if you kill Steam through task manager, although that might depend on how the devs implemented it. If you exit Steam gracefully, exit hooks will be triggered and Steam client will terminate the game. There isn't any technical reason why it should; it's just to create the ILLUSION that the game is running "through Steam".

[Brian9824]

引用自 lankaras：

引用自 SlowMango：

You contradict yourself.

You say no game needs Steam to run then mention Steam DRM. If a game has Steam DRM, it needs Steam to run.

If the game was running standalone, you would be able to shut down Steam once the game is launched. A majority are not able to do that.

You obviously don't understand how it works. It is shoehorned in, it is a FORCED requirement which is added to a finished game which already works without it. DRM obviously cannot be optional.

The irony is that you are the one who isn't understanding it. Using steams DRM is indeed optional and some games on steam choose not to use it all.

[Kapitein Gnapmans]

引用自 brian9824：

引用自 lankaras：

You obviously don't understand how it works. It is shoehorned in, it is a FORCED requirement which is added to a finished game which already works without it. DRM obviously cannot be optional.

The irony is that you are the one who isn't understanding it. Using steams DRM is indeed optional and some games on steam choose not to use it all.

There is no irony here, I understand it perfectly. You did not even present an argument here.

The only valid argument which you could make, is that "running through Steam" and "on the platform" are meant to be taken as "business speak". Technically, they do not make any sense at all.

[Brian9824]

引用自 lankaras：

引用自 brian9824：

The irony is that you are the one who isn't understanding it. Using steams DRM is indeed optional and some games on steam choose not to use it all.

There is no irony here, I understand it perfectly.

Clearly you didn't or else you wouldn't falsely claim there is a forced requirement to use Steam DRM. There is no requirement. If the developer wants the game can be purchased on Steam and not run thru steam at all. In fact you wouldn't even need steam installed to play the game.

That means its not forced, its a choice, its just a choice most dev's want as they want at least some form of DRM to make pirating their game harder then copying the files and handing them out to people.

[Kapitein Gnapmans]

引用自 brian9824：

引用自 lankaras：

There is no irony here, I understand it perfectly.

Clearly you didn't or else you wouldn't falsely claim there is a forced requirement to use Steam DRM. There is no requirement. If the developer wants the game can be purchased on Steam and not run thru steam at all. In fact you wouldn't even need steam installed to play the game.

That means its not forced, its a choice, its just a choice most dev's want as they want at least some form of DRM to make pirating their game harder then copying the files and handing them out to people.

That is not what I said. What I meant by "forced requirement" is that it is not a REAL requirement, like for example DirectX if it uses that. The game does not actually need DRM, it is simply added onto it.

[Brian9824]

引用自 lankaras：

That is not what I said. What I meant by "forced requirement" is that it is not a REAL requirement, like for example DirectX if it uses that. The game does not actually need DRM, it is simply added onto it.

Oh really?

引用自 lankaras：

it is a FORCED requirement which is added to a finished game which already works without it. DRM obviously cannot be optional.

Literally claim it can't be optional, when indeed the Steam DRM CAN be optional. Many games on steam do not have any form of Steam DRM, so again it can indeed be optional.

[Kapitein Gnapmans]

引用自 brian9824：

引用自 lankaras：

That is not what I said. What I meant by "forced requirement" is that it is not a REAL requirement, like for example DirectX if it uses that. The game does not actually need DRM, it is simply added onto it.

Oh really?

引用自 lankaras：

it is a FORCED requirement which is added to a finished game which already works without it. DRM obviously cannot be optional.

Literally claim it can't be optional, when indeed the Steam DRM CAN be optional. Many games on steam do not have any form of Steam DRM, so again it can indeed be optional.

Yes really. With "not optional" I meant that it causes it to "require" the Steam client to run. Not what you are talking about.

[Brian9824]

引用自 lankaras：

引用自 brian9824：

Oh really?



Literally claim it can't be optional, when indeed the Steam DRM CAN be optional. Many games on steam do not have any form of Steam DRM, so again it can indeed be optional.

Yes really. With "not optional" I meant that it causes it to "require" the Steam client to run. Not what you are talking about.

I mean thats semantics at this point, but sure whatever. No matter how you want to look at it repeatedly breaking your user records year after year is a good thing.

[76561199559798421]

the only thing steam is breaking is my will to buy online games, Low Grade Polygon games doesn't really raise my expectations of steams user base.

[Kapitein Gnapmans]

引用自 brian9824：

引用自 lankaras：

Yes really. With "not optional" I meant that it causes it to "require" the Steam client to run. Not what you are talking about.

I mean thats semantics at this point, but sure whatever. No matter how you want to look at it repeatedly breaking your user records year after year is a good thing.

It's not semantics, it's you not understanding that I am talking about the technical level only.

I didn't deny that it was good for Steam, just that how they present it gives off the wrong idea, at least to me.

[Knightspace]

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