Still not getting used to Windows 10 only policy

[Chesmu]

About a year ago when complaining about this, a lot of people mentioned that change takes time getting used to ect, and looks like they were wrong.

I'm still not over it and definitely not interested in the elitist ways of the tech and gaming owners and developers. I'm okay with Steam supporting Windows 10, but what I'm not okay with is them eliminating access of everyone who uses older versions of the OS.

Big companies do this push to new products and reskins to create costs and trouble for people, because if everyone worked and got everything they want, and it never broke or got out-dates, then nobody would need them or shop from them again.

That's why every single piece of hardware dies after a while, not because they don't have the tech to make it better, because they implement the faults in order to make you pay them again in future, like a subscription. Digital stuff like OS are not different, as they are made only to be officially called obsolete and dangerous.

[Chesmu]

Dude, they put the security flaws in there since the creation of the OS, and they are the ones abusing it when it dies, in order to make everyone flee to the higher version.

In order to upgrade your OS, you need to upgrade your PC, for which you need to upgrade your work / salary, for which you need to change your life. It's not as simple as $100. :)

And yes there is not something Valve can do, because this is designed and enforced by the ones at the very top of food chain.

[lsdninja]

引用自 Chesmu：

About a year ago when complaining about this, a lot of people mentioned that change takes time getting used to ect, and looks like they were wrong.

They weren't wrong, you lot are just being stubborn.

[BJWyler]

Well, OP, I guess the tech world just isn't for you. This is the way technology has always been, even before all this electronic tech came into being.

Your best bet in this case might be to return to using the abacus. Because this is how tech advances and progresses. The glacier is always moving. You either move along with it, or get crushed underneath.

[Start_Running]

引用自 Chesmu：

About a year ago when complaining about this, a lot of people mentioned that change takes time getting used to ect, and looks like they were wrong.

I'm still not over it and definitely not interested in the elitist ways of the tech and gaming owners and developers. I'm okay with Steam supporting Windows 10, but what I'm not okay with is them eliminating access of everyone who uses older versions of the OS.

They aren't. Their service will at some point just require functionalities that are no5t available in older OSes. Like trying to hook up a an old 1970's crt telly to a modern cable box.

引用自 Chesmu：

That's why every single piece of hardware dies after a while, not because they don't have the tech to make it better, because they implement the faults in order to make you pay them again in future, like a subscription. Digital stuff like OS are not different, as they are made only to be officially called obsolete and dangerous.

Because its not like mecyhanical wear and tear, and decay aren't a thing right?

[Heraclius Caesar]

It's just an operating system. You'll be alright lol

And regarding your gripe about needing to get the next new thing every so often, have you forgotten or were you somehow unaware that these companies are for-profit businesses? They exist so they can run your pockets as much and as often as possible and make as much money as they possibly can. To act shocked and angry about that is kind of naive.

[Chesmu]

引用自 BJWyler：

Well, OP, I guess the tech world just isn't for you. This is the way technology has always been, even before all this electronic tech came into being.

Your best bet in this case might be to return to using the abacus. Because this is how tech advances and progresses. The glacier is always moving. You either move along with it, or get crushed underneath.

The problem is, they keep destroying the old tech as they move forward. Not unlike a war strategy in which troops burn down farms and fields as they advance, so the enemy can't use it.

[Chesmu]

引用自 ZeroExe：

引用自 Chesmu：

Dude, they put the security flaws in there since the creation of the OS, and they are the ones abusing it when it dies, in order to make everyone flee to the higher version.

Can you elaborate on this? I’m not sure I follow….

They already have designs for Windows 11 while they are making and releasing Windows 10! They don't suddenly improve their OS based on real reasons. It's just business, and also to keep in business. If they played all their cards at once, released a perfect OS and be done with it, they would have no job.

[Heraclius Caesar]

引用自 Chesmu：

引用自 BJWyler：

Well, OP, I guess the tech world just isn't for you. This is the way technology has always been, even before all this electronic tech came into being.

Your best bet in this case might be to return to using the abacus. Because this is how tech advances and progresses. The glacier is always moving. You either move along with it, or get crushed underneath.

The problem is, they keep destroying the old tech as they move forward. Not unlike a war strategy in which troops burn down farms and fields as they advance, so the enemy can't use it.

Good lord buddy, scorched earth tactics during war is not the same as a company, a business, releasing a new product.

[Amaterasu]

引用自 ZeroExe：

引用自 Chesmu：

They already have designs for Windows 11 while they are making and releasing Windows 10! They don't suddenly improve their OS based on real reasons. It's just business, and also to keep in business. If they played all their cards at once, released a perfect OS and be done with it, they would have no job.

Well, you are correct there, but you stated previously that they “put the security flaws in there since the creation of the OS”. That’s what I would like clarification on.

But, also, to your other point. Yes, that also happens consistently. Microsoft is not the only company that does this, though. Apple does this, as well as every other developer of any major Linux branch. There would be a team dedicated to long-term support and updates, with some input it from the other teams that create additional features and functionality. It’s been like this since Windows 7, with Apple doing it for much longer, if I remember correctly. Incubation is no stranger to any company (or developer).

But that’s how technology has always been. Planned obsolescence has always been a technology drawback: at some point, the parts that I own will (or already have been) placed in the end of support or end of life category. Everyone wants to make money. This is not just a Microsoft / Steam discussion at this point.

I know I am looking at $2000, at a minimum, to upgrade my parts. But, I have baked that in already and some of the parts I already have (GPU) are good to use in my next build.

Planned obsolescence has only become a thing in recent history. What Windows is doing is called sunsetting. Or basically "We created this new thing and can't keep supporting this old thing." Its part of the reason why XP existed with Vista and 7. Vista with 7 and 8. 7 with 8 and 10. And ME *shudders* with XP

[BJWyler]

引用自 Chesmu：

引用自 BJWyler：

Well, OP, I guess the tech world just isn't for you. This is the way technology has always been, even before all this electronic tech came into being.

Your best bet in this case might be to return to using the abacus. Because this is how tech advances and progresses. The glacier is always moving. You either move along with it, or get crushed underneath.

The problem is, they keep destroying the old tech as they move forward. Not unlike a war strategy in which troops burn down farms and fields as they advance, so the enemy can't use it.

Like I said, tech isn't for you then. Especially since you don't seem to completely understand it. Sure planned obsolescence exists, and I'm not a fan of it either, but that's only a very small part of how and why technology advances and old tech becomes unusable.

You either learn to accept it and deal with it, or you go live off grid in a mountain cabin. Because it's not going to change, nor should it, just because you don't like it.

[Chesmu]

引用自 BJWyler：

Like I said, tech isn't for you then. Especially since you don't seem to completely understand it. Sure planned obsolescence exists, and I'm not a fan of it either, but that's only a very small part of how and why technology advances and old tech becomes unusable.

You either learn to accept it and deal with it, or you go live off grid in a mountain cabin. Because it's not going to change, nor should it, just because you don't like it.

The illusion of advancement is what keeps it from actually advancing. Old tech is perfectly use-able, if they don't restrict it by the very evil practice being talked about in this thread. They make you think that one is faulty/weak and this one is advanced and strong, and it goes on foreveer.

Let's review some of tech's advancements that cost people many thousands of grands: Added extra cameras to smartphones (wow) made them thinner (dimension breaking) and also added pre-installed Facebook, Instagram and Twitter to them for you ease of brainwashing.

It's just the same with OS, as all that's done is new bloat and spyware being added to the new one, plus more system resources are consumed. The main feature being added is ability to connect your phone to it, which is done due to their master-plan: "EVERYTHING has to be inside their phones, and we have full control of their phones."

[miakisfan]

There really needs to be the smallest violin playing in the background of these topics.

I get it ... change is tough to deal with but at some point in time you are going to have to accept it. There is no other way around it. Time to grow up and join the real world with the rest of us.

At some point you have to question the mentality of people who can't accept the way things are. All these topics do is make some of us think you act a lot younger than what you really are Windows 7 users.

[C²C^Guyver |NZB|]

引用自 Chesmu：

引用自 BJWyler：

Well, OP, I guess the tech world just isn't for you. This is the way technology has always been, even before all this electronic tech came into being.

Your best bet in this case might be to return to using the abacus. Because this is how tech advances and progresses. The glacier is always moving. You either move along with it, or get crushed underneath.

The problem is, they keep destroying the old tech as they move forward. Not unlike a war strategy in which troops burn down farms and fields as they advance, so the enemy can't use it.

Wow. Comparing it to a war? Really? You guys are going to continue to grasp so far to try to make your argument seem legitimate.

I went from Vista to 10 and then from 10 to 11.

You know what? I lived and everything was okay.

They're not destroying old technology either. The old technology just doesn't work with the new stuff and so it gets left behind.

You can't stop he aging of technology any more than you can stop the aging of yourself.

[C²C^Guyver |NZB|]

引用自 Chesmu：

引用自 BJWyler：

Like I said, tech isn't for you then. Especially since you don't seem to completely understand it. Sure planned obsolescence exists, and I'm not a fan of it either, but that's only a very small part of how and why technology advances and old tech becomes unusable.

You either learn to accept it and deal with it, or you go live off grid in a mountain cabin. Because it's not going to change, nor should it, just because you don't like it.

The illusion of advancement is what keeps it from actually advancing. Old tech is perfectly use-able, if they don't restrict it by the very evil practice being talked about in this thread. They make you think that one is faulty/weak and this one is advanced and strong, and it goes on foreveer.

Let's review some of tech's advancements that cost people many thousands of grands: Added extra cameras to smartphones (wow) made them thinner (dimension breaking) and also added pre-installed Facebook, Instagram and Twitter to them for you ease of brainwashing.

It's just the same with OS, as all that's done is new bloat and spyware being added to the new one, plus more system resources are consumed. The main feature being added is ability to connect your phone to it, which is done due to their master-plan: "EVERYTHING has to be inside their phones, and we have full control of their phones."

Weak and one is strong?

You do realize that Windows 7 is nothing more than Windows Vista SP3? You can look it up, it's fact. They packaged it as a standalone OS and people bought it.

So they took part of an old OS and packaged it as a new one to make you think as such and it seems you have no problem with that.

[Chesmu]

引用自 C²C^Guyver |NZB|：

You can't stop he aging of technology any more than you can stop the aging of yourself.

Well if Microsoft and alike are playing the role of nature / god for tech, then nothing much we can do. In reality they can easily stop it.