Steam installieren
Anmelden
|
Sprache
简体中文 (Vereinfachtes Chinesisch)
繁體中文 (Traditionelles Chinesisch)
日本語 (Japanisch)
한국어 (Koreanisch)
ไทย (Thai)
Български (Bulgarisch)
Čeština (Tschechisch)
Dansk (Dänisch)
English (Englisch)
Español – España (Spanisch – Spanien)
Español – Latinoamérica (Lateinamerikanisches Spanisch)
Ελληνικά (Griechisch)
Français (Französisch)
Italiano (Italienisch)
Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesisch)
Magyar (Ungarisch)
Nederlands (Niederländisch)
Norsk (Norwegisch)
Polski (Polnisch)
Português – Portugal (Portugiesisch – Portugal)
Português – Brasil (Portugiesisch – Brasilien)
Română (Rumänisch)
Русский (Russisch)
Suomi (Finnisch)
Svenska (Schwedisch)
Türkçe (Türkisch)
Tiếng Việt (Vietnamesisch)
Українська (Ukrainisch)
Ein Übersetzungsproblem melden
Diskussionsregeln
Diesen Beitrag melden
This has nothing to do with politics at all. Its all about pricing models that are screwing over people who live in certain countries.
And we are talking about "Digital goods". This has nothing to with cost of wages, cost for stores and rentals.
Companies have every right to charge more if they can because of a higher standard of living for their goods.
Would it not be more fair then when the prices in all other countries would go up instead of down for one?
Math has everything to do with it, it is basic economics. When the AVERAGE income of your country ls CONSIDERABLY higher then other countries then naturally consumer prices are higher as well.
So yes, your car should cost more.
The average income of my country is high because there are many rich people living here. But this has nothing to do with my earning and wealth situation.
If you live on piles of snow or sand costs go up so you cannot be "interested" in playing.
How much is a haircut? Is those who live in the area family? Are you a foreigner trying to pose?
This is STEAM it is an internet thing. Might rhyme with meme and thats taken over most of the internet and anything on it. Perhaps doesn't want internet prefers ski'ing and chocolate and watches and utility knives and kites and maybe yodelling.
what they comfortably tend to ignore are extreme living costs with usually 1.5-2k in rent or close to 1 monthly k in health "insurance". add other living costs like 1L of milk quickly costing up to 3$ or more a lousy small block of butter close to 5$. quickly adding up.
now ask anyone living in france or germany what they think or what they'd pay for even just those grocery examples.
that obviously does not yet include all other auxiliary and running costs. bare existence is at least 3k a month without taxes; and then they wouldn't even have eaten yet with extreme goods and grocery costs.
on politics, import and taxes they get the stick on both ends as well: sold out on non-existant immigration "laws" and treason in favour of supposed economic agreements or "benefits". while in reality getting cheated on all sides nevertheless. i.e. they get the worst of both worlds, instead. :) what surprise.
insane immigration numbers, while still paying massive import taxes plus the usual political and economic rip-off of often 50-200% in pricing and extras. sometimes up to 1000% or more for the most "illustruous" (aka corrupt) industries and prices like medicine or pharmaceuticals. usually with still very underperforming qualities, processes and results.
that's the problem with practical realities, truths vs. smart-assery and half-knowledge.
and now tell the Swiss or any other prejudiced individual or group some more about your ignorant and totally clueless "wisdoms" and whatnot -> to justify some obviously overpriced rip-off and regional videogame prices.
always the biggest ignorants and talkers online. if their supposed "knowledge" about average salaries sound so terrific, maybe they should actually try and test their limited wisdom, experience and lots of "luck" to actually live there. maybe that would provide some change in perspectives: after all that "average salary wisdom" and naive regurgitations sound almost too good to be true. isn't it? :)
mind you - you better have some skills to back things up, as you won't have much time to slack around. as failure and exactly those specific living costs you seem to be so informed about - will inevitably set you back by an easy 3-5k a "pop".
that would be a fun TV show to watch all those phoneys and talkers fail hard when facing actual realities. :D
But here an interesting example in relation to op's very valid concerns from today's currency standpoint and current market numbers and some random title "Songs of Conquest".
- 1 chf = 1.07 euros
prices according to steamdb:
- chf 39.- vs. euro 34.
measured by currency alone the swiss price should be 31.80. over 2 francs less than euro currency price. one could think that currency conversion is not only applied inversely. but even in exponential inversion.
that seems absolutely ridiculous.
if one compared generic difference of Swiss vs. German VAT's as well afaik the difference should be another 11%. let's make that 10% for practical sake. 1% extra pricing would potentially be justified for a purely digital, often not even owned or guaranteed ownership. Right? :)
No extra physical "costs" or any of the usual bs excuses.
It's digital. Nothing to argue about there.
Might not be the most "empiric" order of operations, but:
In an absolutely basic comparison on equal, digital terms and markets the Swiss price should imho be:
euro 34 - 10%, i.e. minus euro 3.40.
Therefore: euro 30.60
the actual VAT-differentiated baseline and translation.
Now the actual currency conversion of that baseline:
Results in 28.63, let's make that 28.60 considering generous 1% and simplicity.
If I'm not mistaken that's a whopping difference and a "nice" little swiss pricing bonus in entirely arbitrary, economically and geographically entirely unjustifiable manner, of:
26.67% or chf 10.40 in difference for a random 34 euro steam title.
The drunkards' pint- and pub-cicle non-truths or other "physical" economic think-tank excuses do certainly not apply at all as explained in my previous post.
Not bad.
Maybe just another, naive pint- and pub-circle half-wisdom: But I think it would help if people had at least some human decency to not judge others wether they can or even want to afford or support criminal business practices. In relation to overpriced videogames. Or even if oneself can or currently wants to afford a specific, or varied number of videogames.
After all - that's just a brief moment in time. The situation of others can quickly apply to yourself. In a matter of days, or even hours. It's rather naive to never consider others and their individual or collective situations.
All in all given such practices, the generally abyssmal quality in AAA or even AA games in literal decades. Plus the recent and tax-payer-subsidized practices of SBI, agendas and sweet baby inc. being injected to further deteriorate product qualities on already awful standards is a very slippery slope, to say the least.
More if not most people will simply not want, or even be able to afford to support or buy overhyped, overrated and overpriced products to usually result in disappointing quality and standards. Which, when it comes to genuine economics experts (which you won't usually see too often on TV)... is the true "end-game" of in- and hyper-inflations and recessions:
Customers, people and the main part of society responsible for actual substance and growth - need liquidity and means to reinvest cashflow into at least somewhat reasonable economies, services and products.
Publishers, Devs and Steam should genuinely consider their pricing policies. The "fat years" are over. This might just be the tip of the iceberg. Just some meaningless video-games. But it's an industry with equally working people nevertheless. Ripping off entire regions by 25-30% or more in such volatile times can quickly lead to a vicious cycle given already brittle practices and politics.
After all - Entertainment will be the first smb's, companies and individuals to go and cut loose as dead-weight in challenging times. They should seriously consider if oblivious, short-sighted and even generally dubiously "efficient" pricing examples of 20-30%+ are currently worth the risk. People will collectively remember, after all. And they are way more than they are made to believe.
Not that I generally condone such preference. But if the customers aren't even given any realistic, remotely fair or acceptable chance to support their hobbies. They will simply pirate to eval more cautiously, over blind payments, support and hope. Especially when usually disappointed. Or simply not buy specific or too many games. At all.
And one couldn't even blame them: It's happened before. With newspapers. General media. More physical or even digital entertainment. And can easily happen with games, entertainment or any digital profiteering of "goods".
The problem is not the customer who is generally supportive and generous.
It's when services, standards and qualities or even just feasible means for mutual transactions or availability... i.e. the platforms and their industries plain and simply: fail. Over comfort and greed.
Good luck. You're gonna need it.
Publishers and developers set the price of their games not Steam. Does Ford set the price of a Porsche or Intel set the price of AMD CPU's or Xbox set the price of a PlayStation. It just doesn't happen in the real world, in the land of make believe though, I guess you can believe anything you want.
Free games don't have regional prices on Epic? I'll let you into a secret, free games everywhere don't have regional prices because here's the kicker... they're Free Games!!! They don't cost a penny, mind blowing isn't it...