SAM: Steam Achievement Manager | Frowned upon?

[Gnako]

I got SAM because I like getting achievements and completing games but some achievements in my games are not obtainable in the game anymore, a good example would be CS:GO 1 when some of the maps weren't available anymore but yet still on the achievement list.

I understand that there is a lot of people for and against for SAM and other third-party achievement tools. So I am wondering if its frowned up for its use?

I use it for:
Achievements not available anymore, can't be obtained, or cost money to get.

The money one is a case by case, I'm willing to get a DLC and PLAY it to get the achievements, but if I have to buy certain stuff or, P2W, im just going to get it through SAM.

I'm sure others have thoughts about this and I would love to hear from people who just casually play and Achievement hunters thoughts?

[potato]

no one cares if you use sam, not even valve

[Mr. Smiles]

If you want to use SAM, use SAM. Not like steam cheevos matter or have any value.

[blunus]

Nobody but self-claimed achievement hunters get frowned upon.

Considering how PC is open, SAM isn't alone for getting unobtainable achievements. Plus you could still get map achievements from the steam workshop, but hey, they are gone now.

[Abigail From Sneaky Squid Dept.]

Valve doesn't care. However some developers might ban you if like in game rewards are tied to achievements.

[Pierce Dalton]

It's like cheating in single player games, it doesn't affect anyone but hey it's still cheating.

Tbh, I find it funny that some people are so obssessed with achievements that they made a software to unlock unobtainable ones.

[potato]

Messaggio originale di Pierce Dalton:

Tbh, I find it funny that some people are so obssessed with achievements that they made a software to unlock unobtainable ones.

they didn't make a software that unlocks unobtainable ones, they made one that unlocks any

it simply sends a command through the steam console, you can even do that manually without the application

[Pierce Dalton]

Messaggio originale di potato:

Messaggio originale di Pierce Dalton:

Tbh, I find it funny that some people are so obssessed with achievements that they made a software to unlock unobtainable ones.

they didn't make a software that unlocks unobtainable ones, they made one that unlocks any

it simply sends a command through the steam console, you can even do that manually without the application

I know it can unlock any achievement, what I'm saying is that they were motivated by unobtainable ones.

[76561199559798421]

whats sad is it just shows the level of "cheating" and "lies" that are consistent within steam.

Using something like that to unlock achievements is the same as cheating the system. steam struggles with anything honest, it always has , seems to always will.

You can't rightly trust anyone or anything on steam due to this manipulation clearly provided by steam itself to allow fraud to circulate around the system.

if users are engaging fraudulently with steam achievements they most likely will engage fraudulently within games, promote cheating, and undermine any legitimacy within or outside of the games on steam.

[potato]

Messaggio originale di Pierce Dalton:

I know it can unlock any achievement, what I'm saying is that they were motivated by unobtainable ones.

i think they were more motivated by "i want to unlock all achievements in one button"

[Pierce Dalton]

Messaggio originale di potato:

Messaggio originale di Pierce Dalton:

I know it can unlock any achievement, what I'm saying is that they were motivated by unobtainable ones.

i think they were more motivated by "i want to unlock all achievements in one button"

Well yeah that too, but the creators of the software certainly had some achievements already.

[AerSilver ♞]

Frowned upon by who? I doubt anyone has ever got banned for this,there are 0 reports of that happening afaik. Frowned by the playerbase/achievments hunters? maybe by some. it does kind of nullify the whole point of getting rare achievments and make them meaningless. you do you man,your morals are up for to you to decide. if it's for a multiplayer achievment in an old,dead game or a bugged one that won't unlock then by all means.

[Mountain Months]

yes its frowned upon DONT USE IT

its hacking

[potato]

Messaggio originale di Mountain Months:

yes its frowned upon DONT USE IT

its hacking

no it's not, it simply sends a command through the steam console, same as installing a game through it

it's not "hacking" by any definition

[76561199540158642]

it really is a manipulation of the intended workings of the software

[Pierce Dalton]

Messaggio originale di potato:

Messaggio originale di Mountain Months:

yes its frowned upon DONT USE IT

its hacking

no it's not, it simply sends a command through the steam console, same as installing a game through it

it's not "hacking" by any definition

You're not allowed to mess with the Steam console, at least on paper (it is on their EULA or TOS, I don't remember which one mentions this stuff). In theory, they could ban people for using SAM or doing it directly through the console. In practice, we know they don't care.