Windows 7 still working as 15 feburay 2024

[Pom Pom]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3161056900
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[m662]

As long as the user does not update the client any longer (make it immutable) and there are no big TLS encryption changes to something like TLS 1.3 or yet to be released 1.4. Which can be enforced in the CEF renderer inside the Steam launch application the most the users will experience is:

Games that can not be purchased due to the payment provider servers blocking the connection due to unknown fingerprint or user-agent (which can be mitigated by paying by cellphone for example)

Games that of course no longer will offer any installation method compatible with Windows 7 or future Direct X 13 requirements (which is slated for alpha testing in a few months as rumors go)

Some media items that no longer correctly display due to experimental CSS elements becoming standardized on the server up, downstream requests and the renderer being unable to interpret them correctly.

Does not mean that it is smart to keep using it as internet facing device but technically there is very little that can be done to stop it and most enforceable methods that not rely on technology changes can be circumvented with enough knowledge.


My prediction is that TLS 1.3 handshake enforcement will kill the client functionality when it is expected to go mainstream in October 2024 by Microsoft and I expect Akamai datacenters to follow suite in the following months.

[Start_Running]

even if the client is held immutable the back end will be changing and sooner or later the old client will not meet the security requirements to even log ion or verify games. THats how it happened with XP and 98.. The last update Valve did for the client was to stop it from seeking new updates if the OS is unsupported.

I.e If you're on Windows 7/8. It's not even gonna bother trying to update.

[The Last Unicorn]

I hope the games will still work on w7 in offline mode :O

[m662]

Publicado originalmente por The Last Unicorn:

I hope the games will still work on w7 in offline mode :O

When you can no longer connect to the steam server to authorize it will eventually completely fail even in offline mode or so it was. The grace period was approximately two weeks after last successful connection for license validation.

Though from what I can tell they actually no longer use it but its a feature that was discussed as being active in the code years ago and part of our official support knowledge base in case customers had problems activating there games.

You will however be in trouble if the client ever needs to be reinstalled.

[SLAYER187]

I ditched win 7 long ago and i was glad i did. Win 10 enterprise has been my OS for along time next will be linux as win 11 is a sloppy mess. Just upgrade from 7, it is not supported you are putting yourself at high risk because of an outdated OS, win 7 is nothing these days but a target for hackers and scammers.

[Wolfpig]

Publicado originalmente por AyaSensei067:

I am currently running the 2024/01/24 Steam Client Beta that has the updated Chromium build which is 109 on Windows 7 and it seems to work just fine.

Wonder why.....

Version 109 will be the last version to support Windows 7/8/8.1. Version 110 and greater will require Windows 10 as a minimum.

BTW: My Webbrowser is currently running on Version 120.x

[The Last Unicorn]

Publicado originalmente por m662:

Publicado originalmente por The Last Unicorn:

I hope the games will still work on w7 in offline mode :O

When you can no longer connect to the steam server to authorize it will eventually completely fail even in offline mode or so it was. The grace period was approximately two weeks after last successful connection for license validation.

Though from what I can tell they actually no longer use it but its a feature that was discussed as being active in the code years ago and part of our official support knowledge base in case customers had problems activating there games.

You will however be in trouble if the client ever needs to be reinstalled.

I cant understand why ppl gave up on box version they were so much better ;p

[NakiBest]

I think this thread does not do the topic justice! :)

There should be a new thread on this valuable, important topic EVERY single day. :D

[Mad Scientist]

The previous instances of what happened, plus the old mobile app also being an example demonstrate that things may not work over time. The mobile app slowly stopped having things work correctly until a point where it didn't work at all - rejecting any sort of session or login - and required the 2 new apps to function; the mobile client and the chat app.

It may still be working for now, but the question is, will it keep working for older OS's over time?

This gives even more time for people to upgrade Windows or install Proton.

[Jon the VGNerd]

Nice game ban, OP.

[Watermelon {JESUS IS LORD}]

steam still working fine here on win11 in jan 2024

[VB Driver]

Publicado originalmente por JR APOCALYPSE aka Slayer187:

I ditched win 7 long ago and i was glad i did. Win 10 enterprise has been my OS for along time next will be linux as win 11 is a sloppy mess. Just upgrade from 7, it is not supported you are putting yourself at high risk because of an outdated OS, win 7 is nothing these days but a target for hackers and scammers.

The most normie and noobish advice. Totally not parroted 9000 times before.

as win 11 is a sloppy mess.

For me win10 is already a sloppy mess.

People use 3rd party protection anyway.
Relying on Microsoft for security is like relying on them for internet browsing.

[Electrochock]

Steam 2003/2004

[AyaSensei067]

Publicado originalmente por Wolfpig:

Publicado originalmente por AyaSensei067:

I am currently running the 2024/01/24 Steam Client Beta that has the updated Chromium build which is 109 on Windows 7 and it seems to work just fine.

Wonder why.....

Version 109 will be the last version to support Windows 7/8/8.1. Version 110 and greater will require Windows 10 as a minimum.

BTW: My Webbrowser is currently running on Version 120.x

Oh nice, I use Firefox on my laptop and on my desktop PC, I'm running on Version 122.0 on my laptop and 115.7.0esr (Extended Support Release) on my desktop PC.

[AlexTheRedScout]

Publicado originalmente por nineret:

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3147447765&fileuploadsuccess=1
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not for long and again just upgrade to 10 its a better version of windows 7