Dadpool 25 jan. 2024 às 7:57
Graphics in games do matter
Saying that graphics in games doesn't matter is like saying that music in games doesn't matter.

If "graphics in games doesn't matter", then person saying this wouldn't mind if for example realistic graphics would be replaced with polygon-like obscen-ish yellow, pink and brown and other obscene versions of colors. I mean, there could be people who actually won't mind but I don't believe that percentage would be higher than 1% (theoretically).

Stylized graphics is also graphics so when somebody says "I don't care about graphics, I like stylized graphics" then it is graphics too and it does matter.

Person might say "I don't care about graphics" in most of cases with meaning that all the game graphics that that person actually played or heard about are pleasant to him/her.

Who knows if last Pokemon game graphics wasn't botched because of people saying that, I don't know if that was the reason, but it could play some kind of role.

It's time to stop saying that when it's not true.

/s
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Dadpool 25 jan. 2024 às 9:58 
Originalmente postado por Aachen:
Originalmente postado por Decanaue:

Wrong comparison, if the steaks would be the same in taste but different in look that would make more sense, then I would choose a better looking one.

And if the steaks are not prepared equally-tastily?

Which would you eat — one which looked good, but was not to taste, one which looked less appealing, but tasted better?

Again, wrong comparison, we are talking about graphics not about taste, but I can roll with it hypothetically and I say this: I would rather eat less appealing one that tastes better, but I certainly rather eat one that looks better if it would taste the same.
Última alteração por Dadpool; 25 jan. 2024 às 10:00
cSg|mc-Hotsauce 25 jan. 2024 às 10:00 
Originalmente postado por Piston Smashed™:
Originalmente postado por Crazy Tiger:
Agreed, I'd play the game. Actually curious about it now. Would love multiple color pallettes.

This game actually has obscene yellow in it, along with other pallettes people call "hideous and ugly", I'used them all, though: https://store.steampowered.com/app/501320/The_Shrouded_Isle/

Return of Obra Dinn also has a few different color pallettes that don't suit everybody, it seems.

I mean if they had done a yellow Pong back in the day it wouldn't have mattered as we only have black n white TV's. :lol:

Pong came out long after color TV's did. Adoption of color TV's in the US became more of a reality when prices for them got cheaper in the 60's, before Pong.

:winterbunny2023:
Aachen 25 jan. 2024 às 10:00 
Originalmente postado por Decanaue:

Again, wrong comparison, we are talking about graphics not about taste, but I can roll with it hypothetically and I say this: I would rather eat less appealing one that tastes better, but I certainly rather eat one that looks better if it would taste the same.

So, you really mean to write “all other things being equal, graphics matter.”

And why exactly do you not understand the situations to be analogous? “Taste” stands for “gameplay,” “appearance-of-the-food” for “graphics.”
Piston Smashed™ 25 jan. 2024 às 10:01 
Originalmente postado por cSg|mc-Hotsauce:
Originalmente postado por Piston Smashed™:

I mean if they had done a yellow Pong back in the day it wouldn't have mattered as we only have black n white TV's. :lol:

Pong came out long after color TV's did. Adoption of color TV's in the US became more of a reality when prices for them got cheaper in the 60's, before Pong.

:winterbunny2023:

I played in on a black n white one so as me dad could watch his programmes in colour. :spazwinky:
Dadpool 25 jan. 2024 às 10:03 
Originalmente postado por Aachen:
Originalmente postado por Decanaue:

Again, wrong comparison, we are talking about graphics not about taste, but I can roll with it hypothetically and I say this: I would rather eat less appealing one that tastes better, but I certainly rather eat one that looks better if it would taste the same.

So, you really mean to write “all other things being equal, graphics matter.”

Well, yes, I'm using it as an only independent variable with all the dependent variables being the same.
🍋 Lemonfed 🍋 25 jan. 2024 às 10:04 
what get annoying are peoples calling the graphics in a game as ''outdated'' just because it doesn't use the lasted trends in video games.

lot's of peoples talk about graphics and the only thing they think about is the technological aspect of graphics.

the technological aspect of graphics doesn't matter anymore (or at least it's evolution doesn't) , games can already reproduce almost anything that exist in the real world and in a relatively accurate way and in any art style that the developer want.
Última alteração por 🍋 Lemonfed 🍋; 25 jan. 2024 às 10:11
cSg|mc-Hotsauce 25 jan. 2024 às 10:05 
8 billion people aren't going to all agree with you on any single subject.

:winterbunny2023:
Unicorn Slayer 25 jan. 2024 às 10:09 
Originalmente postado por Decanaue:
I'm not saying that games with bad graphics are not fun, I'm saying that graphics do matter in some aspect at least.

No one has denied that, you just keep trying to twist the saying to mean something it isn't. The saying doesn't mean graphics don't matter, it means graphics aren't the most important part of the game
Aachen 25 jan. 2024 às 10:12 
Originalmente postado por Decanaue:

Well, yes, I'm using it as an only independent variable with all the dependent variables being the same.

:amphibianhat: You may have misunderstood the generally-intended takeäway of “graphics don’t matter;” it’s more usually “graphics don’t trump gameplay, storytelling and world-building.”
Dadpool 25 jan. 2024 às 10:20 
Hmm, I still feel like I didn't make some people here realize how much they value graphics, ok I'm gonna throw a word:

Remasters
cSg|mc-Hotsauce 25 jan. 2024 às 10:23 
Originalmente postado por Decanaue:
Hmm, I still feel like I didn't make some people here realize how much they value graphics, ok I'm gonna throw a word:

Remasters

Don't care about them unless they add content not in the original game.

You see how this "graphics matter" is irrelevant?

:winterbunny2023:
Boblin the Goblin 25 jan. 2024 às 10:24 
Originalmente postado por Decanaue:
Hmm, I still feel like I didn't make some people here realize how much they value graphics, ok I'm gonna throw a word:

Remasters
Remasters become popular due to the idea of what the game would look like/perform without the limitations of when it was released. As well as some games just not being available anymore(mostly console games) or having bugs/issues that greatly hamper the experience.

This along with mechanical changes or added content that was originally cut.
Unicorn Slayer 25 jan. 2024 às 10:28 
Originalmente postado por Aachen:
Originalmente postado por Decanaue:

Well, yes, I'm using it as an only independent variable with all the dependent variables being the same.

:amphibianhat: You may have misunderstood the generally-intended takeäway of “graphics don’t matter;” it’s more usually “graphics don’t trump gameplay, storytelling and world-building.”

yeah i mean i think like 5 or 6 people have said this at this point

Originalmente postado por Decanaue:
Hmm, I still feel like I didn't make some people here realize how much they value graphics, ok I'm gonna throw a word:

Remasters

Most remasters are popular because they update some of the mechnaics, like Star Ocean 2 remake added a lot of new stuff, as well as making it playable on modern devices so people don't need to bust out their playstations.

I mean ill get the super mario RPG on switch because i can then play it on a modern console without having to pay hundreds of dollars, i wouldn't care if the graphics were updated at all.
Aachen 25 jan. 2024 às 10:29 
Originalmente postado por Decanaue:
Hmm, I still feel like I didn't make some people here realize how much they value graphics, ok I'm gonna throw a word:

Remasters

O? Where was the announcement for Vampire Survivors Remastered published?

Originalmente postado por Unicorn Hunter:

yeah i mean i think like 5 or 6 people have said this at this point ….

:homelol: yeah, I was rather a late entry to this discussion.
Última alteração por Aachen; 25 jan. 2024 às 10:31
Dadpool 25 jan. 2024 às 10:30 
Let's say that Resident Evil 4 remake was actually a remaster, that only graphics changed and nothing else, if Remake never existed and there would be released only remaster, wouldn't you care? I would, in fact, I thought for quite some time that RE remakes are actually a remasters, the idea was pretty much sold to me, despite not being giant fan of RE.
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