Is Steam Moderation trying to Sabotage Users and the Forum?

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It needs to be discussed that there is potential that Steam and its moderation of the forums are setting certain people up to be banned for long periods of time.

That by Applying "Mistake" bans they are increasing the levels of banning escalations, in Attempts to increase ban punishments.

What this means if your first offence is a

1st offense "warning"
2nd offense 24 hours
3rd offense 48 hours
4th offense 72 hours
5th offense 1 week
6th offense 2 weeks

it progress's higher and higher each time. However many users are falsely banded by what support calls, "Over Reaction" leading to ban reversals.

Those Ban Reversals don't seem to be resetting the offense time and in fact increase it.

all and all it seems like steam moderation is playing a game with its users, blame them over and over again with false moderation until a real rule is broken which the individual is punished harsh for no reason due to steams own moderation mistakes.

I believe that this issue needs addressed, as does the frequency of certain users who are attacked by the system. There is a lot of injustice surfacing around on steam it simply makes steam look guilty when moderation acts out in such ways.

Over all It leads to a trust issue with both the users about steam and with steam against the users.

What hope do we have for a increased friendly forum community with this type of abuse going on.

in the past i have been victim of abusive moderation that was "a Mistake" why are these mistakes happening and i am just being set up by a abusive moderator that doesn't like what i have to say.

[Ramstar]

Ursprungligen skrivet av C²C^Guyver |NZB|:

Ursprungligen skrivet av Ramstar:

What a long winded way to try and justify your inability to listen the first time. If you’re getting banned over 6 times it’s a YOU issue.

Marking the topic answered by someone who agrees won’t help what your actual issue is.

It's what they do. They don't want actual answers, because if they did they'd go to the actual source that could help them. They just want to discuss it with other like-minded people who also apparently can't follow the rules.

That's also why these topics eventually get locked because then they start arguments with other people and then blame it on the other party. If they get a ban, they turn around and blame someone else for it, whether that be the other person or moderators. So it's a vicious cycle. Nothing ever gets solved because they don't want to admit that they are the problem.

I mean come on, 44 bans? You can't see that you're the problem?

You know why that would have never happened under old moderation? Because the 4th or 5th ban would have been the permanent one.

Accountability and authority issue. I’d like to see what home life with their parents are like.

I also would like to be a fly on the wall when they get a job in the real world see how this logic works out then.

It’s a maturity thing too and not trying to discount that there’s some mods that probably shouldn’t be mods, but the tone of the original post doesn’t come across like that’s the problem. I could be wrong.

[C²C^Guyver |NZB|]

It's that whole hidden behind a screen thing. They'd never say half of this stuff to anyone in the real world, because they probably end up getting knocked on their backside.

You can't moan and groan like this in the real world either because they'd just show you the door.

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Ursprungligen skrivet av C²C^Guyver |NZB|:

Would that explain why people in all of those Windows 7 threads who mentioned GOG were not banned?


Please...

EDIT:

Hell one of them is posting in this thread right now lol


He mentioned GOG all through those Windows 7 threads and he still talking about it and I don't see any ban

OP hates when I talk about sites like Humblebundle or Fanatical because it undermines his whole theory that Steam mods are censoring the forums.

Since Humble and Fanatical usually sell keys for lower than Steam's sale costs.

Yet to get "censored" mentioning those sites.

[Ramstar]

Ursprungligen skrivet av C²C^Guyver |NZB|:

Would that explain why people in all of those Windows 7 threads who mentioned GOG were not banned?


Please...

I think that’s a part of the point though right? Consistency. agree with your logic and does depend on context and which human is reviewing which is why it’s important to look at the actual thread, although there could be mods that just have no clue what they’re doing. It could be no one hit the report button yet who knows.

[C²C^Guyver |NZB|]

Ursprungligen skrivet av Leonardo Da Pinchi:

Ursprungligen skrivet av C²C^Guyver |NZB|:

Would that explain why people in all of those Windows 7 threads who mentioned GOG were not banned?


Please...

EDIT:

Hell one of them is posting in this thread right now lol


He mentioned GOG all through those Windows 7 threads and he still talking about it and I don't see any ban

OP hates when I talk about sites like Humblebundle or Fanatical because it undermines his whole theory that Steam mods are censoring the forums.

Since Humble and Fanatical usually sell keys for lower than Steam's sale costs.

Yet to get "censored" mentioning those sites.

Yep I mean hell, where do you think I got the biggest majority of my library?

So no, that person was not in fact banned for mentioning GOG

If that were the case, countless others would have been banned for mentioning Humble Bundle, Fanatical and about a dozen other legitimate sites.

[Pierce Dalton]

Ursprungligen skrivet av C²C^Guyver |NZB|:

Ursprungligen skrivet av Leonardo Da Pinchi:

OP hates when I talk about sites like Humblebundle or Fanatical because it undermines his whole theory that Steam mods are censoring the forums.

Since Humble and Fanatical usually sell keys for lower than Steam's sale costs.

Yet to get "censored" mentioning those sites.

Yep I mean hell, where do you think I got the biggest majority of my library?

So no, that person was not in fact banned for mentioning GOG

If that were the case, countless others would have been banned for mentioning Humble Bundle, Fanatical and about a dozen other legitimate sites.

What person?

[C²C^Guyver |NZB|]

Ursprungligen skrivet av Ramstar:

Ursprungligen skrivet av C²C^Guyver |NZB|:

Would that explain why people in all of those Windows 7 threads who mentioned GOG were not banned?


Please...

I think that’s a part of the point though right? Consistency. agree with your logic and does depend on context and which human is reviewing which is why it’s important to look at the actual thread, although there could be mods that just have no clue what they’re doing. It could be no one hit the report button yet who knows.

Him showing you the thread is irrelevant, because the comment that was moderated is deleted. So it proves nothing.

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Ursprungligen skrivet av C²C^Guyver |NZB|:

Ursprungligen skrivet av Leonardo Da Pinchi:

OP hates when I talk about sites like Humblebundle or Fanatical because it undermines his whole theory that Steam mods are censoring the forums.

Since Humble and Fanatical usually sell keys for lower than Steam's sale costs.

Yet to get "censored" mentioning those sites.

Yep I mean hell, where do you think I got the biggest majority of my library?

So no, that person was not in fact banned for mentioning GOG

If that were the case, countless others would have been banned for mentioning Humble Bundle, Fanatical and about a dozen other legitimate sites.

Most of my library's from humble too, I don't play 10+ hours a day often, so waiting a few years for a game (with the rare exception) is best for me, since I've got a huge backlog of games already.

[C²C^Guyver |NZB|]

Ursprungligen skrivet av Leonardo Da Pinchi:

Ursprungligen skrivet av C²C^Guyver |NZB|:

Yep I mean hell, where do you think I got the biggest majority of my library?

So no, that person was not in fact banned for mentioning GOG

If that were the case, countless others would have been banned for mentioning Humble Bundle, Fanatical and about a dozen other legitimate sites.

Most of my library's from humble too, I don't play 10+ hours a day often, so waiting a few years for a game (with the rare exception) is best for me, since I've got a huge backlog of games already.

Yep people making up fairy tales is a hell of a thing.

[Ramstar]

Ursprungligen skrivet av C²C^Guyver |NZB|:

Ursprungligen skrivet av Ramstar:

I think that’s a part of the point though right? Consistency. agree with your logic and does depend on context and which human is reviewing which is why it’s important to look at the actual thread, although there could be mods that just have no clue what they’re doing. It could be no one hit the report button yet who knows.

Him showing you the thread is irrelevant, because the comment that was moderated is deleted. So it proves nothing.

It gets deleted? Ok well that sucks but it could still show context and lead up would still like to view it for when I have nothing better to do..

[Pierce Dalton]

Ursprungligen skrivet av C²C^Guyver |NZB|:

Ursprungligen skrivet av Ramstar:

I think that’s a part of the point though right? Consistency. agree with your logic and does depend on context and which human is reviewing which is why it’s important to look at the actual thread, although there could be mods that just have no clue what they’re doing. It could be no one hit the report button yet who knows.

Him showing you the thread is irrelevant, because the comment that was moderated is deleted. So it proves nothing.

Well, you certainly know that the deleted post can be read in the ban message, don't you?

[C²C^Guyver |NZB|]

Ursprungligen skrivet av Ramstar:

Ursprungligen skrivet av C²C^Guyver |NZB|:

Him showing you the thread is irrelevant, because the comment that was moderated is deleted. So it proves nothing.

It gets deleted? Ok well that sucks but it could still show context and lead up would still like to view it for when I have nothing better to do..

The content that is moderated is nearly always deleted. The ban or warning message shows you the offending content but as far as the forum, it is deleted.

[C²C^Guyver |NZB|]

Examples of off-topic content include:


Re-posting closed, modified or deleted content

https://help.steampowered.com/en/faqs/view/6862-8119-C23E-EA7B

[Pierce Dalton]

Ursprungligen skrivet av C²C^Guyver |NZB|:

Examples of off-topic content include:


Re-posting closed, modified or deleted content

https://help.steampowered.com/en/faqs/view/6862-8119-C23E-EA7B

Well, thanks for the reminder, dear friend.

[Ramstar]

Ursprungligen skrivet av C²C^Guyver |NZB|:

Ursprungligen skrivet av Ramstar:

It gets deleted? Ok well that sucks but it could still show context and lead up would still like to view it for when I have nothing better to do..

The content that is moderated is nearly always deleted. The ban or warning message shows you the offending content but as far as the forum, it is deleted.

If the thread still exists and Pierce can provide the offending comment would still like to see it if he finds it for science… :) Either or both will do! Thanks.