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Is it fair to place an clean playing account with lowered trust factor (due to forum infractions) with cheaters in match-making?
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yeah no doubt, i remember a few years back i asked someone cheating why they did it, and the "Kid" they where young, said they wanted to be a famous streamer so thats why they did it.

i think many people are seeking this kinda fake fame. you should actually read that topic about

CS:Hack it had a pretty funny quote
about all the people who said they didn't hack
but did

I honestly don't trust anyone on steam, its safer to just play casual matches, the last ranked match i played i tossed a fire and my team mate purposely ran into it to try and give me a friendly fire ban.

plus even back then you would catch lots of spin bots i think a majority of the cheaters have evolved to cheat and continue to play. Everyone wants to be the best i suppose cheating simply gives many of them a chance to be good , even if its pretend.
Golden Unicorn a écrit :
yeah no doubt, i remember a few years back i asked someone cheating why they did it, and the "Kid" they where young, said they wanted to be a famous streamer so thats why they did it.

i think many people are seeking this kinda fake fame. you should actually read that topic about

CS:Hack it had a pretty funny quote
about all the people who said they didn't hack
but did

I honestly don't trust anyone on steam, its safer to just play casual matches, the last ranked match i played i tossed a fire and my team mate purposely ran into it to try and give me a friendly fire ban.

plus even back then you would catch lots of spin bots i think a majority of the cheaters have evolved to cheat and continue to play. Everyone wants to be the best i suppose cheating simply gives many of them a chance to be good , even if its pretend.
Sent you a friend request.
Trust is earned, not given.
D. Flame a écrit :
Trust is earned, not given.
20 years on steam
9xx+ MM wins on CSGO
70+ MM wins on CS2
Thousands spent on games/skins
Never grief cooled-down
Never global muted
Never cheated

If that doesn't earn one "trust" then what the ♥♥♥♥ does?
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D. Flame a écrit :
Trust is earned, not given.
20 years on steam
9xx+ MM wins on CSGO
70+ MM wins on CS2
Thousands spent on games/skins
Never grief cooled-down
Never global muted
Never cheated

If that doesn't earn one "trust" then what the ♥♥♥♥ does?
Someone without a bunch of forum infractions.
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Hamsterpeek a écrit :
I have no trust factor issues but a lot of people who are known to be toxic have. The same woth cheater who are annoyed that they face other cheater. So this shows that TF works. I'm not a big fan of TF either but these threads and my own experience show that it seems to work acceptable.

Also you don't know OP. He poated roughly 50 videos where he was sure that someone cheats and none of them cheated, it wasn't even questionable. He also accused me of cheating a lot of times, including that I'm a rage cheater.

So he might not eve. have low trust factor because whenever he claims that he plays against cheater he isn't. So his trust fsctor might be fine, he might not play against cheater but again: he alwaysthinks he plays against them.

We have exactly three people in the csgo hub who do that and they all behave exactly the same, don't want to listen or learn, are all in the lowest ranks etc.

This doscussion with him goes on for exactly one year. With the other two for like 2-3 years.

Again you don't know the history and thus of course think that my reaction is too emotional. There is much more to it than you think.
You make up lies to form your own narrative. Now you're just derailing the discussion, repeatedly.

Please, stop.
Watch the movie shutter island. You are leonardo di caprio. Get help.

Golden Unicorn a écrit :
I can understand what you are saying, but i do not need to know the man, when i known the game.

That being the case simply because many people hide the fact they stealth cheat isn't a amazing idea, its pretty obvious someone is cheating just by looking at the score board and the individuals playing.

obviously if some good people are on a match and the scores are all crap and one person is doing far better then others, ironically they are most likely cheating, and if several people are all doing it, it most likely also means they cheating.

the user isn't in question on this topic, the question is what does it actually take to get a match without cheaters, For me its impossible simply because i play casual , there is a cheater in every match, often times if you get loaded into a new server you end up facing off vs a cheater with bots.

You should maybe consider the OP as a Valued asset to the CSGO 2 Hub and become friends, simply because if you are really not a cheater why wouldn't you want to play with others who don't cheat.

I would be happy to join any of you in a csgo 2 game, it would be fun
I've noticed that your post in my thread already made zero sense, had no connection, were spoken like an AI.

The posts you write here are the same thing. "I don't know this man but I know the game".

You have NO idea and don't even care. If you don't know Stalin or other of these type of people and only saw him once you might also think "he is nice".

You are completely oblivious to the situation and rather than investigating into it your play into the role of trolling.

But hey. Even Dragonlord sometimes meets people who think that dragonlord is the victim, they spend him time and money. And everyone in the past 12 years noticed very fast that he is the issue. So you are just like the fans of him who follow him for a short time until you realize that the things I said were true.

And this is the problem. And why I say he needs a permanent community ban. It took youtube 10 years to finally delete his youtube channel. Valves mods take way too much time to perma ban him. He is dangerous the same dragonlord is.

And as in dragonlords case you just blindly think that I' a "hater" while I try to warn you from him as others do it in dragonlords case.

And this is tireing. Wasting my time protecting people like you just to get played by people like you who then turn into people like me after a while.

But hey, maybe you two are same mindet and deserve each other. Leonardo di caprio in ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ island also found someone who plays along with his nonsense.

I mean you know him for a day. You ignore all his flamebait, ignorance etc. and ignore the fact that thousands of people leftthe forum only because of him and 1-2 other same minded people because they post 16 hours a day about the same nonsense until they get banned. The second their ban is over they post again. And they think they are on a trail of a conspiracy theory, creating their own reality where we friendly and normal user are all the evil guys.

You know what he said about me after seeing my matchhistory?
https://csstats.gg/player/76561199128434668/csgo
Hamsterpeek a écrit :
redacted a écrit :
You make up lies to form your own narrative. Now you're just derailing the discussion, repeatedly.

Please, stop.
Watch the movie shutter island. You are leonardo di caprio. Get help.

Golden Unicorn a écrit :
I can understand what you are saying, but i do not need to know the man, when i known the game.

That being the case simply because many people hide the fact they stealth cheat isn't a amazing idea, its pretty obvious someone is cheating just by looking at the score board and the individuals playing.

obviously if some good people are on a match and the scores are all crap and one person is doing far better then others, ironically they are most likely cheating, and if several people are all doing it, it most likely also means they cheating.

the user isn't in question on this topic, the question is what does it actually take to get a match without cheaters, For me its impossible simply because i play casual , there is a cheater in every match, often times if you get loaded into a new server you end up facing off vs a cheater with bots.

You should maybe consider the OP as a Valued asset to the CSGO 2 Hub and become friends, simply because if you are really not a cheater why wouldn't you want to play with others who don't cheat.

I would be happy to join any of you in a csgo 2 game, it would be fun
I've noticed that your post in my thread already made zero sense, had no connection, were spoken like an AI.

The posts you write here are the same thing. "I don't know this man but I know the game".

You have NO idea and don't even care. If you don't know Stalin or other of these type of people and only saw him once you might also think "he is nice".

You are completely oblivious to the situation and rather than investigating into it your play into the role of trolling.

But hey. Even Dragonlord sometimes meets people who think that dragonlord is the victim, they spend him time and money. And everyone in the past 12 years noticed very fast that he is the issue. So you are just like the fans of him who follow him for a short time until you realize that the things I said were true.

And this is the problem. And why I say he needs a permanent community ban. It took youtube 10 years to finally delete his youtube channel. Valves mods take way too much time to perma ban him. He is dangerous the same dragonlord is.

And as in dragonlords case you just blindly think that I' a "hater" while I try to warn you from him as others do it in dragonlords case.

And this is tireing. Wasting my time protecting people like you just to get played by people like you who then turn into people like me after a while.

But hey, maybe you two are same mindet and deserve each other. Leonardo di caprio in ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ island also found someone who plays along with his nonsense.

I mean you know him for a day. You ignore all his flamebait, ignorance etc. and ignore the fact that thousands of people leftthe forum only because of him and 1-2 other same minded people because they post 16 hours a day about the same nonsense until they get banned. The second their ban is over they post again. And they think they are on a trail of a conspiracy theory, creating their own reality where we friendly and normal user are all the evil guys.

You know what he said about me after seeing my matchhistory?
https://csstats.gg/player/76561199128434668/csgo

You make me laugh. I'm "dangerous." LMAO

Your stats speak for themselves: https://i.ibb.co/hsZygsr/image.png

Ray, I got nothing against you but damn, I'm going to have to start collecting rent.

This thread was about Trust Factor (something you are clearly in need of on that account you linked) and whether or not our forum infractions should place clean players with cheaters.

That's it.
Dernière modification de 76561197963519852; 21 janv. 2024 à 7h48
This will be a post you'll ignore 95-99% of it because your attention span doesn't let you read such a thread closely but I'll write it anyway.

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You make me laugh. I'm "dangerous." LMAO

Your stats speak for themselves: https://i.ibb.co/hsZygsr/image.png

Ray, I got nothing against you but damn, I'm going to have to start collecting rent.

This thread was about Trust Factor (something you are clearly in need of on that account you linked) and whether or not our forum infractions should place clean players with cheaters.

That's it.
I wasn't ready yet, wrote my post but wanted to edit other stuff into my post on my PC because I've the links and pictures not on my phone but on my PC so I'll post that after I respond to this post:

I was exactly posting about that matchhistory. And you know what? It's funny. Because I explained you why I faced so many cheater MANY times. You ALWAYS forget that I explained that to you. Why is that? Do you forget this on purpose or do you have issues remembering things? If so why then do you have to attack people and accuse them about things they already explained?

But hey. I explain it to you the 10. time:
I used that account for this guide:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2543503705
Why? Because in the forum for years people asked how the ranking system works and if personal performance matters. The easiest way to find out if personal performance matters or not is by starting a new account with at least one other person. So a friend and I created new accs and played matches until we got our first rank. We played in NON PRIME. YES. NON PRIME(!!!!). That's why we faced so many cheater. The moment I got prime on that account I haven't meet a single cheater. You can even easily tell when I got prime.

The reason why I won against a lot of cheater, even rage/spin botter is because in non prime you either play against 12 year olds or against 12 year olds with cheats. All in all they're just bad even with cheats and of course someone on my skill level can win against even spin botter. As the chat logs I've posted below prove you couldn't fathom that and still can't. I even posted you video evidence of matches where I've won against them but you also forget that. didn't you?

So again what is your point? You insult me as cancer, as evil, as a cheater, disrespect me and ignore everything I say just because you're a hard stuck silver with 0.6/0.7 kd over thousands of hours who never understood how the game works and how to get good.


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And as I said you can never admit that you were wrong anywhere.

One more example beside the "you need to be level 21 to get prime until they changed it"?

Your internet and your laptop. You posted clips where you were clearly lagging and had low FPS. I and many others told you that the low FPS is because of your old system. You claimed it was cheater doing this. You bought a new gaming laptop and since then you don't have that problem anymore.

BUT.

You admitted to user satellite internet. I studied computer science, it is my JOB to know what type of internet works well, also for gaming. You always had huge lag spikes, high ping spikes, lagged out, people were teleporting. You claimed over one year that the reason is because they use cheat. BUT it was your INTERNET all along.

You never said "thank you for your tipps" when it came to anything. You always spin it around so you were correct, I (and others) were wrong.

You never said thank you for fixing your FPS issue.

You never said thank your for telling you that satellite internet isn't made for gaming (you could even do your own research, every source will tell you that it's bad and even explain you why it is bad).

You haven't said thank you that I clarified that level 21 was required for prime.

You never said thank you for helping you get a better player.

You never said thank you for explaining you why someone in a video you claimed cheated doesn't cheat.

But beside the fact that you didn't even read all of this and if you did you already forget at least 80% of it and ignore it because you never want a normal discussion because your intelligence and ego doesn't accept that I'll also write what I wanted to post in my edit:

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https://imgur.com/5bD3IUd

I'm also cancer.
https://imgur.com/pcSwoKZ

He insults everyone as a cheater even former pros and the most famous content creator.
"WarOwl is a cheater"
https://imgur.com/lSgPfeO

"fl0m is a cheater"
https://www.reddit.com/r/GlobalOffensive/comments/173bxjn/comment/k43xjei/?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=web2x&context=3

He himself asks for private cheats:
https://imgur.com/jT1XnuS

He also wonders why I write so many paragraphs all the time for weird reasons while in reality I just try to help him and put a mirror in front of him.
https://imgur.com/a/HDMK6IH

Sadly I can't find the worst post he wrote me, have no screenshot or link for that.

But also here are some other links:

https://streamable.com/3rzesr
https://streamable.com/4zlthx
https://streamable.com/8nk1cd
https://streamable.com/v9o00r
https://streamable.com/5mwu22
https://streamable.com/h346cx
https://streamable.com/yqf448
https://streamable.com/ey0rl2
https://streamable.com/vvssrg
https://streamable.com/kbl72d

He thinks all of them cheat.

But yeah, go forward, play with him. Make your own experience with him. But don't come back and cry that I was right. There is no way to help him. He lives in his own reality and in his point of view we are all evil beeings. This is what he called me in his worst post also. He wrote a huge text where he said he doesn't think that evil persons exists and he loves every person but I'm truely evil.

I've spend more than 100 hours of my freetime. Not flaming him. Trying to help him. Reason with him. Explain him thinks. Even make videos for him so he can learn because he didn't understand some things. It is impossible. I can't even fathom how someone can be like him but then again Dragonlord is the same type of person. Even after 12 years, after losing his youtube account, house, car, drivers license and all the facts against him proving him wrong he still thinks everyone else is at fault.
Dernière modification de Hamsterpeek; 21 janv. 2024 à 9h15
I stopped reading once I got to this first lie :

". We played in NON PRIME. YES. NON PRIME(!!!!)."

Non-Prime isn't tracked.
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I stopped reading once I got to this first lie :

". We played in NON PRIME. YES. NON PRIME(!!!!)."

Non-Prime isn't tracked.
You see this Golden Unicorn?

Not only disrespects what I write by not reading it.

He even makes up false statements to have a reason to stop reading.

AND YOU WONDER WHY IAM SO ANNOYED BY HIM? SERIOUSLY?

This guy neither knows what level was required to get prime.

Nor does he know that non prime matches were trackable.


Jesus christ man.


Redacted how can you be so ignorant and clueless and disrespectfull.

And then you say that I am the person who creates lies.

This is what I have to deal with over years.

And it makes me so freaking angry for a reason.
Dernière modification de Hamsterpeek; 21 janv. 2024 à 8h13
Hamsterpeek a écrit :
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I stopped reading once I got to this first lie :

". We played in NON PRIME. YES. NON PRIME(!!!!)."

Non-Prime isn't tracked.
You see this Golden Unicorn?

Not only disrespects what I write by not reading it.

He even makes up false statements to have a reason to stop reading.

AND YOU WONDER WHY IAM SO ANNOYED BY HIM? SERIOUSLY?

This guy neither knows what level was required to get prime.

Nor does he know that non prime matches were trackable.


Jesus christ man.


Redacted how can you be so ignorant and clueless and disrespectfull.

And then you say that I am the person who creates lies.

This is what I have to deal with over years.

And it makes me so freaking angry for a reason.
I'm sorry, once I catch someone in the middle of a lie I just tune out. It's not personal, it just tells me the rest of what they have to say isn't true.

I've played plenty of non-prime. None of those matches ever make it into CSstats.
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Hamsterpeek a écrit :
You see this Golden Unicorn?

Not only disrespects what I write by not reading it.

He even makes up false statements to have a reason to stop reading.

AND YOU WONDER WHY IAM SO ANNOYED BY HIM? SERIOUSLY?

This guy neither knows what level was required to get prime.

Nor does he know that non prime matches were trackable.


Jesus christ man.


Redacted how can you be so ignorant and clueless and disrespectfull.

And then you say that I am the person who creates lies.

This is what I have to deal with over years.

And it makes me so freaking angry for a reason.
I'm sorry, once I catch someone in the middle of a lie I just tune out. It's not personal, it just tells me the rest of what they have to say isn't true.

I've played plenty of non-prime. None of those matches ever make it into CSstats.
1. You have to upload matches there MANUALLY
2. I said I played non prime. YOU play UNRANKED. HUGE DIFFERENCE.
3. Look at the date. These matches were played BEFORE valve made prime BUYABLE only. You could get EXPERIENCE in 2021 for playing NON PRIME and got FREE PRIME at level 21. These NON PRIME matches were RANKED and thus uploadable on csgostats.gg

You don't know anything and again flamebait with your stupidity and toxicity.

This is EXACTLY the issue with you FOR AN ENTIRE FREAKING YEAR NOW.

YOU FLAMEBAIT someone, someone has VERY GOOD arguments against you, you make up ridiclious freaking NONSENSE just to ignore at least 90% of what the person said.
Dernière modification de Hamsterpeek; 21 janv. 2024 à 8h20
Hamsterpeek a écrit :
redacted a écrit :
I'm sorry, once I catch someone in the middle of a lie I just tune out. It's not personal, it just tells me the rest of what they have to say isn't true.

I've played plenty of non-prime. None of those matches ever make it into CSstats.
1. You have to upload matches there MANUALLY
2. I said I played non prime. YOU play UNRANKED. HUGE DIFFERENCE.
3. Look at the date. These matches were played BEFORE valve made prime BUYABLE only. You could get EXPERIENCE in 2021 for playing NON PRIME and got FREE PRIME at level 21. These NON PRIME matches were RANKED and thus uploadable on csgostats.gg

You don't know anything and again flamebait with your stupidity and toxicity.

This is EXACTLY the issue with you FOR AN ENTIRE FREAKING YEAR NOW.

YOU FLAMEBAIT someone, someone has VERY GOOD arguments against you, you make up ridiclious freaking NONSENSE just to ignore at least 90% of what the person said.
Oops, my mistake. I didn't know that Non-Prime was different than unranked before Valve reverted the F2P status.

Still, stats speak for themselves. 150+ ADR in dirty matches. That's sus and no explanation you're going to give me will make me believe otherwise.

I think for me, I trust main account users. I know you've explained away all your smurfing and alt account usage 1000x before, but I truthfully, don't buy it. You're exhibiting the same M.O. as a cheater and your matches are sus.

This could all be cleaned up from my perspective if you just used your main, the way I do.

See that 20 year badge on my profile? That's my statement. That's what I am to this community. A player who's managed to tough it out on one account. Before you bring up my own alt, I made that in the middle of 2022 to test out prime MM on a fresh computer and internet connection. I use it occasionally to test things, but if you look at my MM history, it's clear where I've spent the majority of my time in game and that is right here, on the account I'm replying to you with.
Edit:
Redacted noticed that there was a difference between non prime ranked matches and unranked matches so reading this isn't necessary.


https://steamcommunity.com/id/RaimaNd1337/screenshots/?appid=730&sort=newestfirst&browsefilter=myfiles&view=grid

Fresh:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2377761715

No prime enabled: Ad on the bottom telling me to upgrade to pirme (which also increases the trust factor = "verbessert trust factor")
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2377761787

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2377761974
Gaining XP without prime in casual game mode

Still no prime:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2415451539

First match played in non prime ranked which you can also see in the match history:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2415451631

https://csstats.gg/match/28684860

At this point I'm level 21:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2418967034
https://csstats.gg/match/29397998

This was the match where I got my rank.

You see my profile in the screen right?

You see "9, 9, 9" at the commendations, correct?

You see the icon on the left side of it?

LOOK CLOSELY.

THIS is the PRIME LOGO.

So. I'm level 21, no service badge and have the prime badge there.


Look further at the next screen, it is from THE SAME MATCH from my FRIEND I played with ALL THE TIME in our match history:

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2418967090

You see this?

He is level 4. He DOES NOT HAVE THE PRIME BADGE next to his commendations.

THIS is the match link:
https://csstats.gg/match/29397998

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2418967143

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2418967183


So NEVER tell me or others that I'm the liar.

AND NOW scroll UP and read my post which you completely ignored because you were creating lies to save your face.
Dernière modification de Hamsterpeek; 21 janv. 2024 à 8h46
Using multiple accounts can impact Trust just like your game hub ban does. And getting more game hub bans will impact it more.

:winterbunny2023:
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