Folks, how can we Make Steam Great Again ?

[xBCxRangers]

Mass refunds, lawsuits, investigations, OS purges, moderation issues and snafu, hackers, cheaters, VAC, price increases, EA cash grabs, the list goes on, of ongoing issues and problems, we speak about every day here on our forums.

My own personal submission, is a moderate cost subscription service. That can lead to solutions to some of these issues, and make Steam a better place.

Stream services, Steam Pass, better quality moderation, better support services, chat with an agent rather than being fed to the wolves on game hubs, legacy launchers, better servers or moderation of said servers, testing of games to see if they pass the smell test to enter EA, the list goes on, in what a moderate annual cost could provide.

Say, 60 dollars a year usd.

However, that is my suggestion, but others welcome.

[C²C^Guyver |NZB|]

That box of text that you ignored, read it. You're purchasing a license, just like Steam.

[Minuit]

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That box of text that you ignored, read it. You're purchasing a license, just like Steam.

Good advice: read ToS and buy your games elsewhere.

Won't make Steam great again though.

[MAXE]

1. Better anticheat system that 100% make the games clean of cheaters within 120 seconds !

2. A strict game policy from Valve that protects the users of Steam against scamming game developers that want to earn a quick buck on them !

3. Human rights online that allows you to speak your mind with out you getting a punishment for it !

I think thous 3 major topic´s would be a good starting point !

My term for it is BAH .. Bah because unless Gabe can see that it is the right thing to do, then it WONT happen ..

You will get ALOT less users on this platform if you start taking money for being here and play the games ... So that would kill the overall income of Valve .. so that would be a BAD move ..

[Start_Running]

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1. Better anticheat system that 100% make the games clean of cheaters within 120 seconds !

2. A strict game policy from Valve that protects the users of Steam against scamming game developers that want to earn a quick buck on them !

3. Human rights online that allows you to speak your mind with out you getting a punishment for it !

I think thous 3 major topic´s would be a good starting point !

My term for it is BAH .. Bah because unless Gabe can see that it is the right thing to do, then it WONT happen ..

You will get ALOT less users on this platform if you start taking money for being here and play the games ... So that would kill the overall income of Valve .. so that would be a BAD move ..

You are allowed to speak your mind. But just be aware that others will respond in kind to what you say. Freedom. comes parcelled with Consequences and Responsibility. If you don't want the consequences and responsibilities for your speech or action. You must ironically give up your freedom to speak as you like and only say what you are instructed to say.

Such a game policy already exists. And it works. But it just means that the thing has to be 'a game'. Whether you like it or not, or feel it's priced fairly is irrelevant. You have the choice to simply not buy it.

1. You really wouldn't like such ann anti cheat since it likely have to be built into the very hardware firmware in your PC. And oh boy if you though rootkit lockouts were bad....

[NuLife]

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1. Better anticheat system that 100% make the games clean of cheaters within 120 seconds !

and you really believe that would help, all anti cheats can get broke, and do get broke...and why should valve be responsible for other devs games which its there responsibility to implement good anti cheat not valves, man you peps act as its all valves problem and not the actually devs game it is LOL

[C²C^Guyver |NZB|]

Cheating is a problem with humanity. He's been told this numerous times and continues to ignore it. Yet always claims that others are clueless to the "issue"

Even if his account got hijacked and was used to cheat and then received a ban, he would somehow blame others or Valve for it. Even though it is your responsibility to secure your account and you are also responsible for any actions on the account.

The same applies if you get scammed. They already warn you about scamming, there are two whole articles covering it.

As for "scamming developers" such people are banned from the platform and so are their games. Yes, games do get banned and removed from Steam.

As for freedom of speech, it doesn't exist here. Valve is a private company and such companies do not have to adhere to any sort of freedom of speech laws.

[xBCxRangers]

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Escrito originalmente por M-A-X-E ™:

1. Better anticheat system that 100% make the games clean of cheaters within 120 seconds !

and you really believe that would help, all anti cheats can get broke, and do get broke...and why should valve be responsible for other devs games which its there responsibility to implement good anti cheat not valves, man you peps act as its all valves problem and not the actually devs game it is LOL

Well those are his opinions. Why are folks constantly gatekeeping Valve? There's nothing wrong with folks voicing different ideas in how make Steam a better place. And the reason it may not be a better place, is whenever someone comes out with ideas, they're brigaded and cast out.

[Unn4m3d (♥AUT♥)]

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and you really believe that would help, all anti cheats can get broke, and do get broke...and why should valve be responsible for other devs games which its there responsibility to implement good anti cheat not valves, man you peps act as its all valves problem and not the actually devs game it is LOL

Well those are his opinions. Why are folks constantly gatekeeping Valve? There's nothing wrong with folks voicing different ideas in how make Steam a better place. And the reason it may not be a better place, is whenever someone comes out with ideas, they're brigaded and cast out.

He can have as many "opinions" as he wants, and he's free to share them.
That doesn't mean others cant tell him he's wrong, and tell him why he's wrong.

It's a forum for discussions. That's how discussions work.

[Low Standards]

Steam moderation is a disaster of big brother proportions. It isn't about inflaming or insulting conversation. it is about who's team can vote a person off an island the fastest.

[Boblin the Goblin]

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Steam moderation is a disaster of big brother proportions. It isn't about inflaming or insulting conversation. it is about who's team can vote a person off an island the fastest.

If that were true, there would be certain users who would never be able to post.

[Low Standards]

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Well those are his opinions. Why are folks constantly gatekeeping Valve? There's nothing wrong with folks voicing different ideas in how make Steam a better place. And the reason it may not be a better place, is whenever someone comes out with ideas, they're brigaded and cast out.

He can have as many "opinions" as he wants, and he's free to share them.
That doesn't mean others cant tell him he's wrong, and tell him why he's wrong.

It's a forum for discussions. That's how discussions work.

People are allow to voice their opinion but everyone has to understand that having a discussion about how communism sucks at a soviet era ministry isn't going to get you very many positive responses.

[Low Standards]

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Steam moderation is a disaster of big brother proportions. It isn't about inflaming or insulting conversation. it is about who's team can vote a person off an island the fastest.

If that were true, there would be certain users who would never be able to post.

It is true. Prove me wrong?

[Low Standards]

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and you really believe that would help, all anti cheats can get broke, and do get broke...and why should valve be responsible for other devs games which its there responsibility to implement good anti cheat not valves, man you peps act as its all valves problem and not the actually devs game it is LOL

Well those are his opinions. Why are folks constantly gatekeeping Valve? There's nothing wrong with folks voicing different ideas in how make Steam a better place. And the reason it may not be a better place, is whenever someone comes out with ideas, they're brigaded and cast out.

Who do you think hangs around a Steam discussion thread? People who love Steam. There is no way to persuade anyone around here in any way.

[Boblin the Goblin]

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If that were true, there would be certain users who would never be able to post.

It is true. Prove me wrong?

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If that were true, there would be certain users who would never be able to post.

I highlighted the important part that seems to be getting ignored.

[xBCxRangers]

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Well those are his opinions. Why are folks constantly gatekeeping Valve? There's nothing wrong with folks voicing different ideas in how make Steam a better place. And the reason it may not be a better place, is whenever someone comes out with ideas, they're brigaded and cast out.

Who do you think hangs around a Steam discussion thread? People who love Steam. There is no way to persuade anyone around here in any way.

Right, but your thread picked up a lot of "steam", and you ended up correct, and in fact, others followed on that same topic.

I mean i understand what they're saying, but there's a difference in having different opinions, and throwing tomatoes at another who may not have the same lol.